Conner Williams is still fools gold

[superonyx]

Watt does that to every OL, sometimes even when he is double teamed. 3 time DPOY you are talking about.

I agree that Watt is a force.
The problem is that we have too many of these threads where people need to come to the defense of his less than impressive play.

We all want him to be the guy we hoped we were drafting. I'm tired of pretending everyone he is facing destroys their man every week.

 

[BHick]

It wasn't just JJ Watt though. In the Rams game, he got thrown to the ground like a ragdoll on Pollard's TD run. Pollard breaking that same lineman's tackle enabled him to score instead of being stopped short because of Williams. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt once the season starts for real but no one has more excuses made for him than Connor Williams. Dude is untouchable. The Teflon Con(nor) is what I call him.

I keep watching the Pollard TD against the Rams and unless I'm watching the wrong clip Williams pushed is man back about 5 yards. He was not thrown to the ground like a ragdoll.

 

[superonyx]

It wasn't just JJ Watt though. In the Rams game, he got thrown to the ground like a ragdoll on Pollard's TD run. Pollard breaking that same lineman's tackle enabled him to score instead of being stopped short because of Williams. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt once the season starts for real but no one has more excuses made for him than Connor Williams. Dude is untouchable. The Teflon Con(nor) is what I call him.

He can do no wrong by so many around here. I wonder why people didn't give other under performing players this same amount of slack as they give Connor. Heck I remember reading all these threads about how Jaylon Smith was another stupid 2nd round draft choice of Jerry. Byron Jones was small school trash who could only win a jumping contest. LVE was Bobby Carpenter.

Yet Connor Williams is Zach Martin and don't you dare say otherwise or we will jump on you.

 

[TheSkaven]

He looks better to me and stronger. He’s not Zack Martin but IMO he’s gone past Su’a Filo. And a health JJ Watt is gonna cause anybody fits.

But he’s right about the penalties - I’ve seen two key penalties in five drives this preseason and both were killers. Stronger or not, the mental mistakes simply CANNOT carry over into the season. They’re drive killers.

Vs Rams:

• 1st & 10 at LAR 28
  (7:17 - 1st) D.Prescott pass short middle to T.Pollard to LA 20 for 8 yards (D.Williams). PENALTY on DAL-C.Williams, Ineligible Downfield Pass, 5 yards, enforced at LA 28 - No Play.

Vs Houston:

• 2nd & 8 at HOU 21
  (4:16 - 1st) (Shotgun) C.Rush pass short middle to M.Gallup for 21 yards, TOUCHDOWN NULLIFIED by Penalty. PENALTY on DAL-C.Williams, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at HST 21 - No Play.
  

 

[superonyx]

I keep watching the Pollard TD against the Rams and unless I'm watching the wrong clip Williams pushed is man back about 5 yards. He was not thrown to the ground like a ragdoll.

You are watching the wrong video or the wrong player. Williams was ragdolled.

 

[ThreeandOut]

But he’s right about the penalties - I’ve seen two key penalties in five drives this preseason and both were killers. Stronger or not, the mental mistakes simply CANNOT carry over into the season. They’re drive killers.

Vs Rams:

• 1st & 10 at LAR 28
  (7:17 - 1st) D.Prescott pass short middle to T.Pollard to LA 20 for 8 yards (D.Williams). PENALTY on DAL-C.Williams, Ineligible Downfield Pass, 5 yards, enforced at LA 28 - No Play.

Vs Houston:

• 2nd & 8 at HOU 21
  (4:16 - 1st) (Shotgun) C.Rush pass short middle to M.Gallup for 21 yards, TOUCHDOWN NULLIFIED by Penalty. PENALTY on DAL-C.Williams, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at HST 21 - No Play.

Pretty sure every Cowboys OL got a holding penalty during the Texans game.

 

[amame25]

You are watching the wrong video or the wrong player. Williams was ragdolled.

Not sure what you're seeing there but I would hardly call that getting ragdolled. Williams got caught off balance and leaning on that play but it's not like the dl just out muscled him
.

 

[Sydla]

He can do no wrong by so many around here. I wonder why people didn't give other under performing players this same amount of slack as they give Connor. Heck I remember reading all these threads about how Jaylon Smith was another stupid 2nd round draft choice of Jerry. Byron Jones was small school trash who could only win a jumping contest. LVE was Bobby Carpenter.

Yet Connor Williams is Zach Martin and don't you dare say otherwise or we will jump on you.

What?

The exact same thing is happening here. Some said Smith was a wasted 2nd round pick, others defended him. In this thread, some are ripping Williams and some are defending him.

I don't see much difference.

 

[superonyx]

What?

The exact same thing is happening here. Some said Smith was a wasted 2nd round pick, others defended him. In this thread, some are ripping Williams and some are defending him.

I don't see much difference.

The difference is the Jaylon hate was widespread and loud. The people that defend Connor are widespread and loud.

The difference is in the amount of people defending vs insulting a player.

But i'm sure you already know this and like to pretend they are the same.
What's the use in pretending here.

 

[superonyx]

Not sure what you're seeing there but I would hardly call that getting ragdolled. Williams got caught off balance and leaning on that play but it's not like the dl just out muscled him
.

I'm seeing a guy with poor technique or a lack of strength get off balance and ragdolled. Then the guy that just blew him up takes a shot on our RB's legs behind the line.
No point in pretending he didnt just get thrown out of the defenders way. At this level that shouldnt be happening. Very rarely do you see a guy get handled like that.
Being ragdolled doesnt mean you were only out muscled. You could be ragdolled for poor technique. The result is the same.

 

[Ranching]

He actually said this lol

Many times!!!!

 

[Ranching]

We keep drafting off-lineman with high picks instead of coaching low picks to starters as most NFL teams do. This policy has gotten us 0 Superbowls and is our biggest cap and pick consumption!
When we learn that Play-makers and Defense win games not off-lineman.....
Jerry football 101 ....

Don't worry, Dak will lead us to a SB!!!

 

[Ranching]

That floater has sunk.

Needs a courtesy flush!!

 

[Sydla]

The difference is the Jaylon hate was widespread and loud. The people that defend Connor are widespread and loud.

The difference is in the amount of people defending vs insulting a player.

But i'm sure you already know this and like to pretend they are the same.
What's the use in pretending here.

I think you are seeing things that aren't there.

 

[DanA]

But he’s right about the penalties - I’ve seen two key penalties in five drives this preseason and both were killers. Stronger or not, the mental mistakes simply CANNOT carry over into the season. They’re drive killers.

Vs Rams:

• 1st & 10 at LAR 28
  (7:17 - 1st) D.Prescott pass short middle to T.Pollard to LA 20 for 8 yards (D.Williams). PENALTY on DAL-C.Williams, Ineligible Downfield Pass, 5 yards, enforced at LA 28 - No Play.

Vs Houston:

• 2nd & 8 at HOU 21
  (4:16 - 1st) (Shotgun) C.Rush pass short middle to M.Gallup for 21 yards, TOUCHDOWN NULLIFIED by Penalty. PENALTY on DAL-C.Williams, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at HST 21 - No Play.

You can't blame an O-linemen for an ineligible man downfield call. That's on Dak and Pollard for not getting it out quick enough. Connor did everything right on that play

 

[superonyx]

I think you are seeing things that aren't there.

We can agree to disagree.
But I think I am seeing things some people don't want to be true.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Needs a courtesy flush!!

 

[tyke1doe]

Wow. So many fans are ready to give up on players if they don't strike gold either immediately or two years into their careers.

 

[OmerV]

After 3 pre-season games....the guy that everyone said was one of the most improved players during the off-season...put on more weight...better technique...more experience....bla bla bla

Still continues to suck the life out of this offense. More penalties...more blown assignments...more entitlement.

Frankly..as long as this guy is starting....we as an offense.. are gonna be inconsistant. He just kills drives w/ his penalties...and they always seem to happen during a big play.

Teams have figured out he's the weaklink in the line...and have targeted him. JJ Watt was killing him the 1st couple of series...when the Cowboys finally had to pull the plug...and move Filo to left G to combat the breakdowns.

Maybe the light will come on for this guy...but I'm not buying he's put on a bunch of weight...or got stronger.

Right now...we just can't afford to teach a guy on the run. Either he can handle the job...or not.

And as of now..He can't.

Well, you don't get tired or spreading more stupidity, more nonsense, more mindless drivel …

I'll keep my hopes up with Williams. You are hopeless.

 

[OmerV]

Wow. So many fans are ready to give up on players if they don't strike gold either immediately or two years into their careers.

Don't mistake Floaty for a fan. If you could see him, this is what he looks like.