Why are they not trading for a RB

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You can say the same about not needing high priced elite WRs to win the Super Bowl. The last all-pro WR to win was Marvin Harrison in 2007 and befor that was Isaac Bruce in 1999

Cooper isn't trying to being the top paid WR in the NFL though and isn't passing himself off as super elite.
 

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I respect it, but it absolutely matters because professional athletes are conditioned and prepared at a completely different level. You are not Zeke

Suit yourself. I mean, football doesn't change in that RBs get hit. Players get hit. It takes time to become accustomed to running the ball in traffic, it takes time to get used to 11 guys, many much bigger and stronger then you, reaching and grabbing for the ball (and that's putting it nicely), it takes time for you to develop the timing it takes to get on the same page, it takes time to just get used to everything that is going on, all at the same time. It takes time to get used to running the ball against grown men and not just air.

You don't have to believe me if you wish. Football, at any level, is not really all that different, at RB. Of course the talent is better and of course the skill is better and of course the Offense is more complex but that's the thing about the RB position. At the end of the day, you still have to take that ball and run it up between the tackles and you still have to take that pitch and get to the edge and turn the corner, you still have to have the timing down when you make that cut in the counter, when to explode through the hole when you see daylight wide. So many things you just can't train for against air and none of that changes, regardless of what level of football you play. It doesn't matter how sophisticated your training program is, you can't do this unless you are training against real competition.

You don't have to believe this, maybe you want to hear that from somebody who played in the NFL, and that's OK. I actually understand this. So maybe just go listen to any player I've ever heard, comments on this situation. Heck, listen to what Faulk said, who is training Zeke in Cabo and played RB in the NFL. Listen to the game last night and what Emmitt said about it. Listen to what Eric Dickerson just said in interviews about holding out and not going to camp and coming back. If you don't believe me, then listen to them and then if you don't agree, you can state the opinion on why there opinion is not valid and just go along with whatever you want to believe, as opposed to the truth.
 

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Suit yourself. I mean, football doesn't change in that RBs get hit. Players get hit. It takes time to become accustomed to running the ball in traffic, it takes time to get used to 11 guys, many much bigger and stronger then you, reaching and grabbing for the ball (and that's putting it nicely), it takes time for you to develop the timing it takes to get on the same page, it takes time to just get used to everything that is going on, all at the same time. It takes time to get used to running the ball against grown men and not just air.

You don't have to believe me if you wish. Football, at any level, is not really all that different, at RB. Of course the talent is better and of course the skill is better and of course the Offense is more complex but that's the thing about the RB position. At the end of the day, you still have to take that ball and run it up between the tackles and you still have to take that pitch and get to the edge and turn the corner, you still have to have the timing down when you make that cut in the counter, when to explode through the hole when you see daylight wide. So many things you just can't train for against air and none of that changes, regardless of what level of football you play. It doesn't matter how sophisticated your training program is, you can't do this unless you are training against real competition.

You don't have to believe this, maybe you want to hear that from somebody who played in the NFL, and that's OK. I actually understand this. So maybe just go listen to any player I've ever heard, comments on this situation. Heck, listen to what Faulk said, who is training Zeke in Cabo and played RB in the NFL. Listen to the game last night and what Emmitt said about it. Listen to what Eric Dickerson just said in interviews about holding out and not going to camp and coming back. If you don't believe me, then listen to them and then if you don't agree, you can state the opinion on why there opinion is not valid and just go along with whatever you want to believe, as opposed to the truth.

It's not about whether I believe it or not, it's that your opinion doesn't hold any particular weight because you happened to play football, since you didn't play professionally. I'm not even talking about the particulars of the opponents and the rigors, and more about a professional athlete who trains as a full time job, and is in the top 1% athletically being better suited than you to deal with it. Thats no offense to you, it's just reality. But I'm always here for the Al Bundy 4 touchdowns in a single game memories if you want to share.
 

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It's not about whether I believe it or not, it's that your opinion doesn't hold any particular weight because you happened to play football, since you didn't play professionally. I'm not even talking about the particulars of the opponents and the rigors, and more about a professional athlete who trains as a full time job, and is in the top 1% athletically being better suited than you to deal with it. Thats no offense to you, it's just reality. But I'm always here for the Al Bundy 4 touchdowns in a single game memories if you want to share.

Of course not, that's why it basically mirrors the opinions of everybody I've ever heard comment on this situation. The reality is that it doesn't matter what level you play at. The principles are the same. Honest question, did you go and listen to what Emmitt or Faulk or Dickerson said on the subject recently? Did you watch the game last night? If my opinion does not hold weight, does there opinion hold weight? I mean, we are talking about three HOF players at the position, there. This has nothing, at all, to do with being in "1%". I mean, everybody who plays in the NFL is at a similar level athletically. This is not hard, it only requires subjectivity in the examination of the question. That and the fact that you have to be willing to admit you are wrong on some level. Do you not get this? The reason it doesn't matter what level you play at and why this is applicable at the position, at any level, is because the talent level at any given stage of the sport is comparable. It's the high tide floats all boats concept. You see, it doesn't matter the level of talent, in context to this discussion. For the record, I have also coached a fair amount over my life and I would recommend that you not only go listen to what all of those players say about this, or any player really, but also go listen to what Coaches say about it. I think you'll find that the overwhelming majority of them will say something very similar to what I've commented. I get it, you don't trust what I'm saying but you don't have to. That's not required to find the answer here. You just need to put a little effort into it and check it out for yourself. I encourage you to do that.
 

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Of course not, that's why it basically mirrors the opinions of everybody I've ever heard comment on this situation. The reality is that it doesn't matter what level you play at. The principles are the same. Honest question, did you go and listen to what Emmitt or Faulk or Dickerson said on the subject recently? Did you watch the game last night? If my opinion does not hold weight, does there opinion hold weight? I mean, we are talking about three HOF players at the position, there. This has nothing, at all, to do with being in "1%". I mean, everybody who plays in the NFL is at a similar level athletically. This is not hard, it only requires subjectivity in the examination of the question. That and the fact that you have to be willing to admit you are wrong on some level. Do you not get this? The reason it doesn't matter what level you play at and why this is applicable at the position, at any level, is because the talent level at any given stage of the sport is comparable. It's the high tide floats all boats concept. You see, it doesn't matter the level of talent, in context to this discussion. For the record, I have also coached a fair amount over my life and I would recommend that you not only go listen to what all of those players say about this, or any player really, but also go listen to what Coaches say about it. I think you'll find that the overwhelming majority of them will say something very similar to what I've commented. I get it, you don't trust what I'm saying but you don't have to. That's not required to find the answer here. You just need to put a little effort into it and check it out for yourself. I encourage you to do that.

again what they say is irrelevant even if it aligns with what you said. My entire point was that YOUR experiences aren’t a valid barometer. And they aren’t.

had you voiced your opinion on the merit of what other pro backs said I wouldn’t have replied.

That’s all. No need for us to go back and forth anymore.
 

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again what they say is irrelevant even if it aligns with what you said. My entire point was that YOUR experiences aren’t a valid barometer. And they aren’t.

had you voiced your opinion on the merit of what other pro backs said I wouldn’t have replied.

That’s all. No need for us to go back and forth anymore.

So you didn't answer the question, did you listen to what those backs said?

The above is ridiculous, bordering on the insane. I've never been run over by a car before either but it doesn't take the experience of being injured, to the point of death, to know and understand that stepping in front of one is a mistake.
 

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So you didn't answer the question, did you listen to what those backs said?

The above is ridiculous, bordering on the insane. I've never been run over by a car before either but it doesn't take the experience of being injured, to the point of death, to know and understand that stepping in front of one is a mistake.

that’s a horrible analogy. More apt would you be chiming in on the difficulty of open heart surgery because you played operation every weekend.
 

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Some Josh Ferguson guy was cut from the Texans. Anyone know if Kenneth Dixon was cut from the Ravens?
 

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that’s a horrible analogy. More apt would you be chiming in on the difficulty of open heart surgery because you played operation every weekend.

LOL.... pick up your ball and go home. You stepped into something and you won't admit that you are wrong. My experience, of well over 40 years is inadequate, because I didn't play at a level that is acceptable to you. I give you examples of players that did meet those requirements and ask you to listen to what they said. Did you do that?

Then you say that their experience is also not acceptable. Why?

Did you listen to what Coaches have to say? If not, why?

Now you hate the analogy. Why? I suspect it's because you know that it supports what I'm saying. You want an analogy with open heart surgery? Fine, I'll give you that.

I don't have to die from Open Heart Surgery to listen to a person tell me that it's bad for me not to eat right and to get the proper amount of exercise. If my own Mother, who has never been to a single days worth of Med school, gave me this advice, I would listen and take head. Why, because I'm not stupid. I don't get hung up on being wrong if the facts support any given position. On the face of it, what you say and the position you take is completely wrong because what I'm saying is true. You don't have to take my word for it, even though it's true. Go listen to what anybody else say on the subject.
 

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1. are they that sure zeke will sign? so they dont want to waste resources?
2. are there so many rbs available that they can always get a decent one? but why not get a better one
3. are they that confident of weber/chunn/jackson/morris? really?
4. are they trying not to antagonize zeke even more? but it should be negotiation leverage and a wake up call?
5. are teams demanding a 2nd round pick?
1) personally ,I'd be about half sick & full on pissed off,if my 4th of the 1rst rd draft pick had gone plumb loco rogue on me, to where I'd worry& wrangle that worthless piece of draft capital stock on the hoove, over to the top edge of a deep ravine& unceremoniously run him off& over the edge, as I'd not allow the chance of his form of worthlessness to come into contact & infect the rest of my herd

2) no their not, but if it comes down to serious nut cracking panic mode time?, Football Dad would realign the celestial stars orbiting patterns in attempting of roping one in,around midseason ,if available


3) hell yes they are, ain't you done heard already, waldo? That life expectancy of an already used up& worthless r.b. like our soon to croak& keel over out excessive exposure to his footballish #21 position has got the league wide staying power about on the same level of a $3 bottle rocket it seems, according to the " git yer money now,Zeke " crowd of moronic mouth breathers.

4) that thin skinned introverted paranoid wierdo is gonna react like a puffed-up hoppy- toad to any FO remarks he'll readily perceive as to being disparaging towards him ,other than
" we are ready to comply to yer' demands, yer' great&immortal Zeekness",,,pulling back in Alfred Morris bugged out his peepers when he'd heard that news, I guarantee it.

5) ?,,,:huh:,,,?




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1) personally ,I'd be about half sick & full on pissed off,if my 4th of the 1rst rd draft pick had gone plumb loco rogue on me, to where I'd worry& wrangle that worthless piece of draft capital stock on the hoove, over to the top edge of a deep ravine& unceremoniously run him off& over the edge, as I'd not allow the chance of his form of worthlessness to come into contact & infect the rest of my herd

2) no their not, but if it comes down to serious nut cracking panic mode time?, Football Dad would realign the celestial stars orbiting patterns in attempting of roping one in,around midseason ,if available


3) hell yes they are, ain't you done heard already, waldo? That life expectancy of an already used up& worthless r.b. like our soon to croak& keel over out excessive exposure to his footballish #21 position has got the league wide staying power about on the same level of a $3 bottle rocket it seems, according to the " git yer money now,Zeke " crowd of moronic mouth breathers.

4) that thin skinned introverted paranoid wierdo is gonna react like a puffed-up hoppy- toad to any FO remarks he'll readily perceive as to being disparaging towards him ,other than
" we are ready to comply to yer' demands, yer' great&immortal Zeekness",,,pulling back in Alfred Morris bugged out his peepers when he'd heard that news, I guarantee it.

5) ?,,,:huh:,,,?




o_O

o_O



:lmao::lmao::lmao:
 

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I think 1 Cowboys do expect to get Zeke and 2 They feel Pollard and Morris can fill in until that time. I do not see Dallas using a draft pick to bring in a RB. They may look to waiver if they see a player they feel comfortable with.
 
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