Zeke vs Barkley: Which is best RB in NFL?

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Saquon is about to take the crown as the top RB.

what has he done since the 59 yd run?

 

[kskboys]

Give Zeke Barkley’s O line last year and Zeke wouldn’t have even had those home run TD’s. He would have been gassed on the sidelines from having to work so hard just to avoid getting hit.

That's actually polar opposite of what their college careers indicate.

 

[kskboys]

So, Barkley has like 80 yards or so. EZ has around 40-50 I'd guess. And yet, EZ's yards have by and large been much more effective. This is how it usually plays out.

I also used to be enamoured w/ the Barry Sanders types. Took me a few years, but it eventually hit me how the short yardage plodders lead to more wins.

 

[Zeke-2K-Yards]

Yeah, no he’s not.

Yeah, yeah he is. When’s the last time the line has opened up a hole like Barkley had on his 59 yarder, that he got caught on, angle or not. There’s not a huge difference in straight ahead speed between the 2. Barkley is shiftier for sure.

If u notice a lot of Zekes longer runs his rookie year were huge holes, up the middle, where he was getting into the secondary with little to no contact. Those havent been there since. His longest ones last year like in the playoffs are when he’s bouncing outside. Cowboys offensive line is one of the most overrated things in the NFL when it comes to run blocking

 

[aria]

That's actually polar opposite of what their college careers indicate.

So were their O lines. I’m pretty sure Zeke has never had anything even remotely close to a bad O line and were top 5-10 in most cases.

Best O line his rookie year, very possibly the best this year and top 5-10 the last two years.

 

[aria]

Yeah, yeah he is. When’s the last time the line has opened up a hole like Barkley had on his 59 yarder, that he got caught on, angle or not. There’s not a huge difference in straight ahead speed between the 2. Barkley is shiftier for sure.

If u notice a lot of Zekes longer runs his rookie year were huge holes, up the middle, where he was getting into the secondary with little to no contact. Those havent been there since. His longest ones last year like in the playoffs are when he’s bouncing outside. Cowboys offensive line is one of the most overrated things in the NFL when it comes to run blocking

So were the rest of these O lines over rated as well or does it only apply to Dallas?

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol/2018

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol/2017

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol/2016

 

[Vintage]

No debate

 

[uvaballa]

what has he done since the 59 yd run?

Make one or two guys miss everyone he touches the ball and has caught some passes for first down. Definitely looking like best RB on the field today

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Make one or two guys miss everyone he touches the ball and has caught some passes for first down. Definitely looking like best RB on the field today

looked great on that play...

 

[Zeke-2K-Yards]

So were the rest of these O lines over rated as well or does it only apply to Dallas?

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol/2018

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol/2017

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol/2016

If u think the cowboys have had anywhere near the best run blocking offensive line the past 2 years, u should get ur glasses checked. Zeke pretty much got beat into the ground last year fighting for his average ypc. Are u watching the same game I am?

Great pass blocking/average-bad run blocking. Same thing as last year

 

[Ranching]

Who cares?? kiss Barkley's butt all you want, he's on the other team.

 

[Lutonio]

Barkley and his marvelous thighs look great on the sideline as Gallup signed Mark's on the field.

 

[Texas_Pete]

CJ Goodwin with a great open field tackle.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

what has he done since the 59 yd run?

Averaged 5.3 yards per carry on 8 carries since.

 

[aria]

If u think the cowboys have had anywhere near the best run blocking offensive line the past 2 years, u should get ur glasses checked. Zeke pretty much got beat into the ground last year fighting for his average ypc. Are u watching the same game I am?

Great pass blocking/average-bad run blocking. Same thing as last year

So you don’t want to acknowledge the most comprehensive rankings of O lines or answer my question? So tell me who had the top 10 O lines last year?

And actually, pretty much every ranking has their pass blocking last year as slightly below average to well below average. Maybe you don’t watch much football or any other teams other than Dallas.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

So, Barkley has like 80 yards or so. EZ has around 40-50 I'd guess. And yet, EZ's yards have by and large been much more effective. This is how it usually plays out.

I also used to be enamoured w/ the Barry Sanders types. Took me a few years, but it eventually hit me how the short yardage plodders lead to more wins.

What are you talking about, lol?

Since busting the 59 yard run he's run another 9 times for 48 yards, or 5.3 YPC (not including the long run).

 

[uvaballa]

What are you talking about, lol?

Since busting the 59 yard run he's run another 9 times for 48 yards, or 5.3 YPC (not including the long run).

And made multiple guys miss and caught passes for first down. Zeke dropped a pass that would have been a first down. It’s ok to say Dak is middle of the road QB but not ok to say other RBs are as good or better than Zeke.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Averaged 5.3 yards per carry on 8 carries since.

OMG

 

[Hennessy_King]

Yeah, yeah he is. When’s the last time the line has opened up a hole like Barkley had on his 59 yarder, that he got caught on, angle or not. There’s not a huge difference in straight ahead speed between the 2. Barkley is shiftier for sure.

If u notice a lot of Zekes longer runs his rookie year were huge holes, up the middle, where he was getting into the secondary with little to no contact. Those havent been there since. His longest ones last year like in the playoffs are when he’s bouncing outside. Cowboys offensive line is one of the most overrated things in the NFL when it comes to run blocking

This should be a stickied mod thread. Been telling everyone the line has been bleh the last 2 years

 

[Zekeats]

what has he done since the 59 yd run?

They don’t give him the ball and he’s on a bad team. When he does get the ball 50% of the time he’s a highlight film.