Dak > Matt Ryan

[blueblood70]

I could consider the merits of your rankings until you mentioned Murry....that was a total joke. I've seen his two games....I saw nothing special other than running a gimmick offense and hitting guys with short passes or wide open. He shouldn't even be mentioned as a potential top QB until way later in the year. In Dak's rookie year, I thought he looked better than Murray for sure.

LMAO off I noted why they are there and not yet moved up.. hes lightyears ahead of where dak was a rookie, hes was picked first overall and a Heisman trophy winner in college and then throws for over 300 yards his first two games ? hes definitely deserves a mention.. did you NOT see the note outside their names?

Gibe ME a break.. stop trying to launch Dak ahead of established top 10 QBs over 2 games against weak oppnents..HES BEEN GREAT DONT GET ME WRONG..

I was fair I had him moved from near 16th to in the Bottom of the top 10 debates now.. AGAIN LETS SEE THIS ALL YEAR AND ESPECIALLY IN THE PLAYOFFS..IM TALKING KELLEN AND DAK AND THESE REVIVERS DOING THIS AGAINST BETER COMPETTION BEFORE I GO ALL KNEEKERK WITH 100 POSTS ABOUT HOW ALL OF SUDEN HES TOP 3 , SERIOUSLY..

my list was very fair..

 

[kskboys]

TY lol calm down folks.. I lksted my rankings and its really close to how the media , fans, and most humans who watch football see it..

this is team league, Daks on better team then a lot of those guys..Dont get me wrong Daks improved and playing great thats awesome for Cowboys fans but being realist who doesnt drink the koolaid and hype free.. Daks not really better then Ryan, hes in the argument now but 2 games does NOT make you rise that high for your season start rankings........

Dak's on a better team? Using that line of thinking, Brady sucks.

 

[kskboys]

I could consider the merits of your rankings until you mentioned Murry....that was a total joke. I've seen his two games....I saw nothing special other than running a gimmick offense and hitting guys with short passes or wide open. He shouldn't even be mentioned as a potential top QB until way later in the year. In Dak's rookie year, I thought he looked better than Murray for sure.

Yeah, Murray is getting all the hype, prolly because so many said he can't do it.

Basically, so far, he's been exactly as advertised. A subpar QB who can run, and makes great plays at times. Reminds me of Johnny Mandrinky. I didn't watch the game, but saw a lot of hype w/ the TV showing a great drive by Manziel. And the Browns lost like 48-6 or something like that.

Overhype on Murray so far. He's been below average overall.

 

[blueblood70]

Dak's on a better team? Using that line of thinking, Brady sucks.

his OLINE YES.. right now that Oline is pass blocking better then ive ever sen it, needs some work run blocking but he is playing behind a healthy better online.. YES..not saying those guys dont have talent but dak has some advantages this year..not all of them I said a lot..Dwatson has the worst Oline in football and hes getting sacked 4-6 times game taking beating and still put up great numbers when needed...put him here hes abut better then Dak, not a lot but by a slim margin..

 

[ghst187]

Ryan is pretty good QB, but I’d take Dak over him right now.

 

[Whirlwin]

LMAO off I noted why they are there and not yet moved up.. hes lightyears ahead of where dak was a rookie, hes was picked first overall and a Heisman trophy winner in college and then throws for over 300 yards his first two games ? hes definitely deserves a mention.. did you NOT see the note outside their names?

Gibe ME a break.. stop trying to launch Dak ahead of established top 10 QBs over 2 games against weak oppnents..HES BEEN GREAT DONT GET ME WRONG..

I was fair I had him moved from near 16th to in the Bottom of the top 10 debates now.. AGAIN LETS SEE THIS ALL YEAR AND ESPECIALLY IN THE PLAYOFFS..IM TALKING KELLEN AND DAK AND THESE REVIVERS DOING THIS AGAINST BETER COMPETTION BEFORE I GO ALL KNEEKERK WITH 100 POSTS ABOUT HOW ALL OF SUDEN HES TOP 3 , SERIOUSLY..

my list was very fair..

Personally I think Prescott was top 15 the last 3 Seasons. I knew all along Lanahan was holding him back. I don't know where I rank him right now. Probably still top 15.

 

[tyke1doe]

Well, it all worked out at the end. Matt Ryan is a GREAT quarterback. He won. His pass to JJ confirms it.

 

[Whirlwin]

his OLINE YES.. right now that Oline is pass blocking better then ive ever sen it, needs some work run blocking but he is playing behind a healthy better online.. YES..not saying those guys dont have talent but dak has some advantages this year..not all of them I said a lot..Dwatson has the worst Oline in football and hes getting sacked 4-6 times game taking beating and still put up great numbers when needed...put him here hes abut better then Dak, not a lot but by a slim margin..

I definitely don't think he's better than Prescott play even a little bit. I just think he's different.

 

[JoeKing]

I’m as excited as anyone about how Dak is looking, but let’s give it more than 2 games before making these kinds of determinations. Small sample sizes don’t result in consistently reliable decisions.

It hasn't been just two games. Dak was > Matt Ryan last seasons.

 

[kwcool619]

I’m as excited as anyone about how Dak is looking, but let’s give it more than 2 games before making these kinds of determinations. Small sample sizes don’t result in consistently reliable decisions.

I agree. Let's enjoy this at this moment.

 

[OmerV]

It hasn't been just two games. Dak was > Matt Ryan last seasons.

By win/loss record, yes, but not statistically.

 

[JoeKing]

By win/loss record, yes, but not statistically.

Statistics don't mean crap, buddy. Dak's intangible qualities have always been his advantage over other QBs in this league.

 

[DFWJC]

dak has already climbed this mountain. WAtching game and Matt’s not as sharp as Dak. Of course he can’t run either.

He was better this weekend, that's for sure.

Heavy pressure on almost every down and getting hit a ton has a tendency to make a QB look less stellar though.

But Ryan made some really bad decisions last night. Nice win, either way.

 

[OmerV]

Statistics don't mean crap, buddy. Dak's intangible qualities have always been his advantage over other QBs in this league.

You seem a little angry - and irrational. Tell this to Tom Brady, who has amassed more stats than almost anyone, and also has more Super Bowl wins. Also tell that to Ryan, whose similar stats a couple of years ago helped the Falcons get to the Super Bowl.

I’m also a little lost on how statistics like moving the ball, getting first downs and scoring points don’t matter ...

That said, I’m not one that believes stats tell an entire story, and I certainly believe intangibles are key for a QB. And I agree that Dak’s intangibles are outstanding. I have no argument with that.

And, Dak may well be the better QB now, but this nonsense about Ryan not doing or accomplishing anything last year is . well .. nonsense. Ryan and the Falcons offense did their job last year. They got the yardage and scored the points needed to be a very good team, but It was the Falcons defense that failed miserably.

 

[kwcool619]

Tap the brakes, way , way too many Dak post on the koolaid side of things. can we enjoy the wins against BAD teams without needing approval for Dak success..

hes not top 5 hes finally getting in the argument for those in the top 10 after being top 16 lol

I luv the way Dak is playing but te HYOE is way early.. can there be no middle ground here? its either Haters hating or supporters going way too far..

there are fans like myself that can see though both clouds of smoke and be realists.. Daks much improved , through 2 games but way early to start Re-ranking him.. LOL

Hes never been bad, but hes not top 5 and barely starting to make waves with the next 5 in the top 10 argument..

Its great but so many posts about his status after playing 2 games..overreaction Monday in full effect, im glad its postyive ones for a change LOL

my list is easy not after 2 games, careers

Elite,

Brady
Brees
Mahomes
Rogers

tier one cont'd,
BigBen
Rivers
Wilson

Tier 2
Watson
Ryan
Tied Dak, Goff, Wentz thats the argument to round out top 10
Stafford(maybe)id like to see him on another quality team but my eye tests says hes really good on bad team and organization see Barry and Megatron lol

if these two guys continue to paly well all season they could jump up ahead of those up in tier 2 ,I mean too early but they both might be better then tier two leaders..
Murray
Jackson

Tier 3
the rest starting with

Carr
Mariotta
Winston


Im sorry thats MY LIST on how id pick my draft of they were all available and healthy..

I am mostly in the same boat, but I feel Russell Wilson has proven to be elite--take away that dumb call in the SB vs Patriots. If he had a dominant offensive lines like Rodgers, Brady, Dak, and Brees, imagine what he could do (or could have done). He's proven to be clutch, pickup yardage with his legs, and can throw dimes to the WRs. I gotta to give a shot out to the RB of Seattle, Rashad Penny---San Diego State Aztecs in 'da house

Being in L.A. and seeing many Raider games, Carr isn't that bad of a QB (just like his brother David. Is he still walking? Took way too many hits during his career), it is his decision making that makes a lower tiered QB.

Mahomes. Had major game at Texas Tech. His passing touch, arm, vision and athletic ability is off the charts. Here is my take: The post season success. I need to see consistent wins in the post season. Too bad it's with Andy Reid---I don't trust his coaching in the playoffs. Until then, I am going with him as a Tier One QB.

One more thing: Don't sleep on Josh Allen of Buffalo. Good athlete. Big dude. Can run and has a good arm. His accuracy is the question mark.

 

[JoeKing]

You seem a little angry - and irrational. Tell this to Tom Brady, who has amassed more stats than almost anyone, and also has more Super Bowl wins.

I’m also a little lost on how statistics like moving the ball, getting first downs and scoring points don’t matter ...

That said, I’m not one that believes stats tell an entire story, and I certainly believe intangibles are key for a QB. And I agree that Dak’s intangibles are outstanding. I have no argument with that.

And, Dak may well be the better QB now, but this nonsense about Ryan not doing or accomplishing anything last year is . well .. nonsense. Ryan and the Falcons offense did their job last year. They got the yardage and scored the points needed to be a very good team, but It was the Falcons defense that failed miserably.

Take Tom Brady's stats and shove them where the sun don't shine! I'm talking about 2019. I'll bet you the Cowboys beat the Pats on the Pats home field this season and then you stop posting your nonsense on this forum. If you want to shut me up then take the bet. If the Cowboys lose, I'll be gone. Your posting privileges versus mine. Put up or shut up!

 

[blueblood70]

I am mostly in the same boat, but I feel Russell Wilson has proven to be elite--take away that dumb call in the SB vs Patriots. If he had a dominant offensive lines like Rodgers, Brady, Dak, and Brees, imagine what he could do (or could have done). He's proven to be clutch, pickup yardage with his legs, and can throw dimes to the WRs. I gotta to give a shot out to the RB of Seattle, Rashad Penny---San Diego State Aztecs in 'da house

Being in L.A. and seeing many Raider games, Carr isn't that bad of a QB (just like his brother David. Is he still walking? Took way too many hits during his career), it is his decision making that makes a lower tiered QB.

Mahomes. Had major game at Texas Tech. His passing touch, arm, vision and athletic ability is off the charts. Here is my take: The post season success. I need to see consistent wins in the post season. Too bad it's with Andy Reid---I don't trust his coaching in the playoffs. Until then, I am going with him as a Tier One QB.

One more thing: Don't sleep on Josh Allen of Buffalo. Good athlete. Big dude. Can run and has a good arm. His accuracy is the question mark.

KC was an offsides call on a DE away from sealing that game , possibly to go to SB?

 

[OmerV]

Take Tom Brady's stats and shove them where the sun don't shine! I'm talking about 2019. I'll bet you the Cowboys beat the Pats on the Pats home field this season and then you stop posting your nonsense on this forum. If you want to shut me up then take the bet. If the Cowboys lose, I'll be gone. Your posting privileges versus mine. Put up or shut up!

Lol, you ARE angry.

And no, you talked about how Ryan didn’t do squat LAST YEAR.

As for your apparent belief that I am putting down Dak and the Cowboys, you need to pay more attention to the words I write and less to your emotions. They are steering you wrong, and causing you to offer nonsensical bets that have nothing to do with my posts

 

[tyke1doe]

Matt Ryan isn’t clutch, unlike Dak.

Well, Ryan did lead his team to a Super Bowl.
Dak is a little more careful with the football than Ryan. Dak likely wouldn't have thrown that interception in the end zone, not with a 17-12 lead and three points forces Philly to score and to convert a 2 point conversion to tie.
Fortunately for the Falcons, they won anyway when Matt hit Julio Jones. I'm confused. Would that represent a clutch moment?

 

[tyke1doe]

KC was an offsides call on a DE away from sealing that game , possibly to go to SB?

Yep. And Dee Ford was promptly traded to the 49ers. How can you commit that foul in that moment of the game?