HungryLion
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But yet if the players execute it , you can win. Just like the Saints did tonight with their 4 fgs
So coaches can draw up poor game plans? Yes or no.
But yet if the players execute it , you can win. Just like the Saints did tonight with their 4 fgs
Exactly,because if they're executing they're moving the ball.So if the Cowboys threw every single first down, that's fine, as long as they "execute"?
It doesn't matter what tendency you see on film, if your players don't execute to take advantage of it. You don't think that was a tendency they saw with Witten on the catch ? Only problem Witten fumbled, that's execution, Cooper got two big OPI on Nov catches, that's execution, the oline was constantly whipped all night, that's execution.
So coaches can draw up poor game plans? Yes or no.
Exactly,because if they're executing they're moving the ball.
you can't simply keep throwing it, you have to mix it up
No you don't draw up poor gameplans
No you don't draw up poor gameplans
You still aren't answering the question which is quite telling.
Again, no one has ever argued that players can make a play go bad. That call to Witten was a great call, great throw and Witten screwed it up. No one has ever argued that a player(s) can't screw up a play. That's not what people are asking.
I'll ask for a third time. Can a coach/coordinator have a bad game plan? Can a coach/coordinator call a bad play or set of plays? Can a coordinator make certain play calls based on tendencies they see from the opposition? Take execution out of it entirely, or assume a play was executed correctly. Is it impossible that it might not work because it was the wrong call in a situation? What happens when an OC calls a specifically play and it's executed as designed but the DC calls a play and it is also executed as designed?
Let's go further. What goes into a play call during a game? Is it just a coordinator randomly selecting plays off of his play sheet with no rhyme or reason behind that call? Essentially just throwing darts at a play sheet?
All game plans are ideal, perfect, great?
Always.
There is no damn question to answer. You're chasing your tail, games are won on execution .
Scouting report on Bridgewater was he hasnt thrown it deep we shouldnt have been giving him the underneath stuff
D held them to 12 points, granted it was against checkdown Teddy.
Youre like talking to a damn brick.So you can't answer the questions. I figured.
Somewhere in my heart of hearts, I think I'd have had to force Teddy to beat me over the top ... I mean it's not like he had Jerry Rice and John Taylor on the outside.
Yep.
And note, I started this thread not to blame the defense for the loss. The offense was the much bigger culprit here. I was just pointing in a situation in the game where a truly great defense, like some think we have, can't let what happened, happen IMO.
It's like talking to a damn brick.
Right as some of us were pinning you down on important questions and pointing out some possible contradictions in your comments, you want to grab your ball and go home.
11 minutes to go and the Saints pick up a holding penalty that puts them in a 1st and 20.
An elite defense doesn't allow a team with a backup QB to get that first down. But we did. And allowed the Saints to basically chew 5-6 minutes off the clock.
I hate how we play defense at times in certain situations. I know, we are effective, but we are too conservative for our own good at times.
1st and 20, we give up 6 yards on a screen. Not bad. But then the next play is what drives me ******* crazy with Richard and Marinelli. We drop into our patented deep zone and give up an easy 8 yard pass to a TE with no one around him. That gives the Saints a manageable 3rd and 6.
We don't seem to challenge any short passes. We seem content to just sit back, give the completion and hope Smith, LVE, Lee or Thomas come up, make the tackle and we live to see another day. Good teams will exploit that and take the 6-7 yards and just work their way down the field against us.
Just a rant about a particular part of the game that frustrated me. You can't give up a first down in that situation. Just can't.