The Great Zeke!

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We see sharp differences pending the competition.

Opponents able to stifle Elliott challenge Dak to beat them. It’s a proven defensive scheme.

Our 1-8 record when Elliot is held to less than 75 yards support this.

Last game had NOTHING to do with challenging Dak. LOL The offensive idiots simply ran Zeke up the middle the entire game like morons.

Dak just threw for 400 yards and 4 TD's a week for 3 weeks straight. Im sure Payton was happy as a clam that they didnt let Dak open it up.
 

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Tell ya what.

In the Playoff game vs the Rams last season, on 4th and 1 towards the end of the game: Zeke had everybody on the opposing D trying to take him down.

He never quit, he never gave up for a second. And although he didn't get the first down. He was still standing when the whistle blew.

Then after this last game, he blamed himself for a fumble that wasn't a fumble. He never tossed his team under the bus.

He's a stand-up player with talent AND heart. He reminds me of our great running back named Emmitt.

Man, there have been a lot of late hits on our own running back from several of our own fans.

Zeke is anything but a team player.
 

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Lol, stand up player with talent and heart?

Ever watch the Denver game? Sure looked like he quit to me, specifically on the interception return. He even said as much after the game.

Never tossed his team under the bus?

Ask Urban Meyer about that, I think he would say otherwise after Zeke threw him under the bus by publicly questioning his play calling after they lost.

The guy has been spoiled and entitled his entire life and the few times he’s faced adversity or didn’t get what he wanted he’s acted like the diva brat he is.

Urban who? Urban Legend? Yeah sometimes coaches aren't as top tier as players can be. I don't know the Urban guy so I can't say. Maybe Zeke is standing-up because he wasn't sugar coating anything. Maybe some people just tell it like it is.

And no Zeke didn't toss his team under the bus. He accepted full responsibility. Thus, stand up guy. You can check out the official vids and interviews currently up at the Cowboys official site right now for verification.

He had 9 carries in that Denver game. With his lowest YPC of his career. He rebounded fairly well the following game. But, I was not happy with him not chasing down the INT. I'll give you that one.

But spoiled? Entitled? etc. What leads you to believe this?.

Let's see if he can help this team spoil the fans with a SB ring.
 

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Who needs a RB that needs everything perfect around him? LOL

This game proves that Zeke is average and should be paid like an average back.

Zeke needs a pro bowl Oline and Mahones at QB or he's average.

Pollard for 500k is the better option.

This is from the NFL site. No copyright infringement due to educational purposes..........To take someone to school!!
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2018 Yards AFTER contact leaders...

#3: Ezekiel Elliott, Dallas Cowboys (718): The NFL's leader in rushing yards, Zeke was a beast in the yards after contact categories. He was tied for fifth in rushing yards after contact (595) and tied for 10th in receiving yards after contact (123), and 58.5 percent of his rushing yards came after contact. Elliott also ranked tied for 11th in broken tackles (22) among backs.
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End of story.
 

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Zeke is anything but a team player.

Have you heard his teammates and coaches speak of him. All positive. Every single interview. But, if you can show me any of the Dallas Cowboys that have said otherwise. Please post a link.
 

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Urban who? Urban Legend? Yeah sometimes coaches aren't as top tier as players can be. I don't know the Urban guy so I can't say. Maybe Zeke is standing-up because he wasn't sugar coating anything. Maybe some people just tell it like it is.

And no Zeke didn't toss his team under the bus. He accepted full responsibility. Thus, stand up guy. You can check out the official vids and interviews currently up at the Cowboys official site right now for verification.

He had 9 carries in that Denver game. With his lowest YPC of his career. He rebounded fairly well the following game. But, I was not happy with him not chasing down the INT. I'll give you that one.

But spoiled? Entitled? etc. What leads you to believe this?.

Let's see if he can help this team spoil the fans with a SB ring.
Are you being sarcastic about Urban Meyer and that was an example of him throwing his coach under the bus which isn’t what team players do.

Spoiled and entitled? Where do I start? He’s had a top 5-10 O line since college. He bullies a security guard, knocks a DJ out and gets kicked out of another club for almost fighting another DJ. He then sits out with 2 years left on his contract and doesn’t even bother to continue practicing with his teammates in the pre season which is another example of not being a team player. It’s clear when he doesn’t get what he wants he throws temper tantrums, assaults people, sits out, quits, etc.
 

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Have you heard his teammates and coaches speak of him. All positive. Every single interview. But, if you can show me any of the Dallas Cowboys that have said otherwise. Please post a link.
What would expect them to say? That he’s a bad teammate? I’m sure that would go over real well in the locker room. We do know his teammate in college moved out because he partied too much, another example of putting himself before the team.
 

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Are you being sarcastic about Urban Meyer and that was an example of him throwing his coach under the bus which isn’t what team players do.

Spoiled and entitled? Where do I start? He’s had a top 5-10 O line since college. He bullies a security guard, knocks a DJ out and gets kicked out of another club for almost fighting another DJ. He then sits out with 2 years left on his contract and doesn’t even bother to continue practicing with his teammates in the pre season which is another example of not being a team player. It’s clear when he doesn’t get what he wants he throws temper tantrums, assaults people, sits out, quits, etc.

I do want my players to conduct themselves with professionalism off the field. I absolutely give you this one.

I think, or at least hope, those issues are behind him. He's still a youngin'.

With that being said, there was another fella by the name of Michael Irvin who kinda had a few off-the-field things. But he is one of my favorite Cowboys ever. And absolutely was ALWAYS a team player. But Irvin practiced hard with his teammates. Even when he was holding out, or going to. He was practicing by himself. Fulll steam ahead.

There's a possibility that Zeke may have been practicing while holding out.
 

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Are you being sarcastic about Urban Meyer and that was an example of him throwing his coach under the bus which isn’t what team players do.

Spoiled and entitled? Where do I start? He’s had a top 5-10 O line since college. He bullies a security guard, knocks a DJ out and gets kicked out of another club for almost fighting another DJ. He then sits out with 2 years left on his contract and doesn’t even bother to continue practicing with his teammates in the pre season which is another example of not being a team player. It’s clear when he doesn’t get what he wants he throws temper tantrums, assaults people, sits out, quits, etc.

Not to mention the story the one poster told us about Zeke going to clubs and inviting girls to come party with him, even when they had boyfriends with them. He's a dirtbag.
 

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Last game had NOTHING to do with challenging Dak. LOL The offensive idiots simply ran Zeke up the middle the entire game like morons.

Dak just threw for 400 yards and 4 TD's a week for 3 weeks straight. Im sure Payton was happy as a clam that they didnt let Dak open it up.
Unfortunately Miami, NY and Wash aren’t on the schedule every week or Dak would be All World.
 

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Wow the threads on Zeke after this loss is something else. Last I checked you need holes to run thru but I guess he is supposed to gain yards without blocking.
Not really, any rb can run thru big holes.
The thing that I noticed, on the runs where ewok got 2 yds or less, he ran straight into a pile of bodies.
On those plays it was wide open to the left and right, but he chose to just slam into the pile.
He has an option there, and even if he is not as fast anymore, if he bounced those outside , he could then turn
straight up field going n/s again and get positive yardage, at least 5 yards.

All night he ran into the pile over and over, which kinda says he isnt too bright, and doesnt have good vision.
The fumble wasnt a fumble it was a strip, or what I call a pull out.
The only thing about that is a DB pulled it out, not a big lineman, and that says ewok 's arm strength
isnt what it should be.
That could be due to lifting drinks in cabo as opposed to lifting weights in TC.

A 1.9 avg is not average, it is way below. Kamara manged a 4.0 avg and he had tough time too.
Part of doing good in a game like this was, defensive, is 2nd effort, being smart, and highly motivated.
I dont the EE was any of those in this game.
Was he the reason they lost? no, but he didnt help at all. Any rb in the nfl could have done what he did
in that game. He got paid to be more than that, and there are no good excuses for him.
 

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It's not just Zeke, it's Cooper. We gave up a first for him as well, supposed to be the amazing route runner. He got busted in the mouth by a great corner and couldn't do much of anything for most of the game.

We've used two first round picks on skill positions out of the past 4 drafts. We continue to hope late round safeties pan out to be more than where they were drafted.

He's not 'supposed to be' and amazing route runner, he IS an amazing route runner. He's also injured. One doesn't have an MRI just for kicks, and just because it was negative for a season threatening injury doesn't mean he isn't hurt.

Many promising seasons for many teams have been derailed by injury. Let's hope that doesn't happen to us.
 

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Are you being sarcastic about Urban Meyer and that was an example of him throwing his coach under the bus which isn’t what team players do.

Spoiled and entitled? Where do I start? He’s had a top 5-10 O line since college. He bullies a security guard, knocks a DJ out and gets kicked out of another club for almost fighting another DJ. He then sits out with 2 years left on his contract and doesn’t even bother to continue practicing with his teammates in the pre season which is another example of not being a team player. It’s clear when he doesn’t get what he wants he throws temper tantrums, assaults people, sits out, quits, etc.

Funny, the last few lines sounds like you and a few others. Temper tantrums, name calling, faults other people, whiney, etc. You and your clique could be friends with Zeke.
 

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What would expect them to say? That he’s a bad teammate? I’m sure that would go over real well in the locker room. We do know his teammate in college moved out because he partied too much, another example of putting himself before the team.

I love how you mislead to bolster your stand. Bosa and Zeke, both partied and got In trouble. Bosa decided to move out after he was informed that his future could be in jeopardy. That same teammate held out as a rookie, but you have never critiqued his lifestyle, looks, or decision making.
 

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Not to mention the story the one poster told us about Zeke going to clubs and inviting girls to come party with him, even when they had boyfriends with them. He's a dirtbag.

How many athletes, actors, senators, judges, preachers, teachers, heterosexual males even, can you and your cohorts name; that have not done the same? Are all men that party with multiple women dirtbags? I am sure a few people you may know, have the same character.
 

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Not really, any rb can run thru big holes.
The thing that I noticed, on the runs where ewok got 2 yds or less, he ran straight into a pile of bodies.
On those plays it was wide open to the left and right, but he chose to just slam into the pile.
He has an option there, and even if he is not as fast anymore, if he bounced those outside , he could then turn
straight up field going n/s again and get positive yardage, at least 5 yards.

All night he ran into the pile over and over, which kinda says he isnt too bright, and doesnt have good vision.
The fumble wasnt a fumble it was a strip, or what I call a pull out.
The only thing about that is a DB pulled it out, not a big lineman, and that says ewok 's arm strength
isnt what it should be.
That could be due to lifting drinks in cabo as opposed to lifting weights in TC.

A 1.9 avg is not average, it is way below. Kamara manged a 4.0 avg and he had tough time too.
Part of doing good in a game like this was, defensive, is 2nd effort, being smart, and highly motivated.
I dont the EE was any of those in this game.
Was he the reason they lost? no, but he didnt help at all. Any rb in the nfl could have done what he did
in that game. He got paid to be more than that, and there are no good excuses for him.

Alvin from what I saw kind of had better holes to run thru on our bend but don't break D. Zeke had no where to run but that is because it's his fault, since he can't block and run at the same time. People are always pointing out his YPC but not that our OL got there a--'- handed to them like no other.
 

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I honestly thought the contract we gave zeke was stupid considering the direction we're going with play calling. I honestly believe that Pollard has more upside with our oline and offensive approach. I may be wrong, but I thought giving Zeke all that money considering his behavior issues is one of the dumbest things I've seen the front office do in a long long time.
 
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