Connor Williams had a solid game against Jets

[Kaiser]

And you’ve embarrassed yourself continuing to trot out this misinformation. The irony of you trying to shade PFF as hiring supposed unqualified reviewers and yet you have ZERO qualifications, Lool.

You can't even keep your story straight when insulting people on this board, much less compete with the analysis XWalker provides.

 

[cern]

or was it the defense letting the jests get up by 18 and Gb by 21 right out of the box? that might have led fto it, Jets game missing 4 starters on offense might have led to some of it and yes execution is part of it..

if the defense gives up a score, the offense is expected to get a score of its own in an effort to even things up. fact is we stunk on both sides of the ball. the 0-4 jets handed our butts to us. all I was saying it wasn't Williams who caused us to lose. he had a pretty decent game.

 

[cern]

You can't even keep your story straight when insulting people on this board, much less compete with the analysis XWalker provides.

I've read shorter dissertations.

 

[starfan1]

wheres Looney is he only a center

 

[blueblood70]

if the defense gives up a score, the offense is expected to get a score of its own in an effort to even things up. fact is we stunk on both sides of the ball. the 0-4 jets handed our butts to us. all I was saying it wasn't Williams who caused us to lose. he had a pretty decent game.

lmao

you watch too much college ball and maybe the big 12..right blow for blow..expected my Behind!! the defense is expected to make stops and help the offense when they struggle and vice versa..not LET a team get up by 18 and 21 points and with ease BTW.. bombs away.. nearly 35-36 minute TOP by the opponents offenses during this losing streak, thats disturbing and NOT good D..

we have spoiled this defense in the past with out TOP eating Run game and long drives of dink and dunk and keep games close and the D fresh,, they've been exposed when we move to more pass oriented offense.. the D has let us down ECERY big playoff game in the last 5 years, now they are doing it in the RS,

yes the offense gets blame but an NFL Defense is supposed to hold teams to ZERO if yo as them..not oh we can expect a blow for blow wide open offense.. SMH.. no not how it works..

look this team from FO, Coachign, and players are all responsible for this 3 game losing streak, add refs in the mix and its the answer.. you cant single out any one person or coach.,,its mess..

 

[cern]

lmao

you watch too much college ball and maybe the big 12..right blow for blow..expected my Behind!! the defense is expected to make stops and help the offense when they struggle and vice versa..not LET a team get up by 18 and 21 points and with ease BTW.. bombs away.. nearly 35-36 minute TOP by the opponents offenses during this losing streak, thats disturbing and NOT good D..

we have spoiled this defense in the past with out TOP eating Run game and long drives of dink and dunk and keep games close and the D fresh,, they've been exposed when we move to more pass oriented offense.. the D has let us down ECERY big playoff game in the last 5 years, now they are doing it in the RS,

yes the offense gets blame but an NFL Defense is supposed to hold teams to ZERO if yo as them..not oh we can expect a blow for blow wide open offense.. SMH.. no not how it works..

look this team from FO, Coachign, and players are all responsible for this 3 game losing streak, add refs in the mix and its the answer.. you cant single out any one person or coach.,,its mess..

I don't watch college football at all. too busy hunting. I don't know much at all about players prior to the draft. I only go by what I see watching the cowboys. would you have preferred if I said "supposed" instead of "expected"? i'm not arguing anything you said, just don't see the relevance in response to anything I posted. if you're just looking for an argument, I suggest you look elsewhere. but it's expected of you, I suppose.

 

[xwalker]

I got actual job,


I have job to do, but here is one for you with 1 simple glance: Please go to time marker 2:10 -2:30 dude whiffs on #92 .

I would think that also from the Broadcast View shown in that video.

• The High End Zone view as they call it from the coaches film gives a much much better view.
• Frederick has already lost to #92 before CW makes contact with #92 (see image below).
• The run was intended to go to Frederick's right but the DL #92 tosses Frederick and fills that gap.
• The DL #92 turns his back to CW as he tosses Frederick.
• CW wisely avoids blocking him in the back or hooking him.

 

[Seven]

I don't have a break down of all the routes on every play but I watch all but the Jets game and there were both long and short options called. I saw, myself, opportunities to get rid of the ball earlier. I mean, I get it, you want to go for the long ball but that's not always there. Sometimes you have to get rid of the ball and Dak hasn't really done that as often as he could have. It's resulted in sacks on occasion. It's not all on the OL.

I wasn't insinuating it was on the OL.

Apologies if it came across that way. There is something amiss there, IMO.

 

[Shane612]

Who's Connor Williams, and who cares?

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

You can't even keep your story straight when insulting people on this board, much less compete with the analysis XWalker provides.

Oh hey, dd-214.

Why are you going all Dak Prescott on me and spazzing our?

 

[xwalker]

.. nearly 35-36 minute TOP by the opponents offenses during this losing streak, thats disturbing and NOT good D..

yes the offense gets blame but an NFL Defense is supposed to hold teams to ZERO if yo as them..not oh we can expect a blow for blow wide open offense.. SMH.. no not how it works..

Are you saying the defense should hold teams to Zero points?

Time of Possession is both an offensive and defensive stat.

The only way to know how the offense and defense fared individually is to look at time of possession for each drive.

The Cowboys won TOP in the Jets Game.
Cowboys 32:03
Jets: 27:57

 

[Dak_Attack_09]

I would think that also from the Broadcast View shown in that video.

• The High End Zone view as they call it from the coaches film gives a much much better view.
• Frederick has already lost to #92 before CW makes contact with #92 (see image below).
• The run was intended to go to Frederick's right but the DL #92 tosses Frederick and fills that gap.
• The DL #92 turns his back to CW as he tosses Frederick.
• CW wisely avoids blocking him in the back or hooking him.

I love how you use one picture to describe a made up scenario while my video disapproves everything you just stated.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

scheme, not individual play, doomed us against the jets. they stacked the box with more rushers than players to block them over and over. we were poorly coached and not prepared. every team is going to stack the box against us in an effort to nullify zeke, forcing dak to have to carry the team. if we can't adjust our offense to counter this, we're doomed. Williams has looked solid, imo.

It's the same basic thing we've seen over this entire stretch of games, going back to last season IMO.

It's happening on both sides of the ball, IMO. I mean, I understand, we run what we run and ask teams to beat us. I get it and that will work if you have enough talent and enough guys on the same page. However, we aren't there on either side of the ball. Offensively, we are banged up all along the OL and not playing well enough to use this approach. Defensively, we are completely out maned along the front 7, especially on the interior.

Nothing I say here is new to anybody really, I know that too. But seems like if everybody knows that, the team would adjust and they just are not doing that. I don't get it.

 

[Common Sense]

Connor Williams might have had the best performance of the 5 OL in the Jets game.

I'm sorry, but that is absurd. Martin had by far the best game on the OL and it wasn't close.

This wasn't even Williams' best game this year, but to be fair he didn't have much of a chance because Frederick was stinking it up so badly.

 

[Common Sense]

Let us know the last time a 2nd round pick contributed as a rookie starter for this team. I'll give you a hint, it was Andre Gurode seventeen years ago.

Do you even follow the Cowboys? Where do you think Chido Awuzie, Randy Gregory, Demarcus Lawrence, and Sean Lee were drafted? And that's not counting Martellus Bennett, Kevin Burnett, Julius Jones, and God knows who else that I'm not thinking of right now.

 

[G2]

I wouldn't call any of the linemen particularly good the last couple of games.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The play at 3:45 getting pushed back the most out the 3 interior guys, of course Dak releases it on time

I'm not sure what you are seeing here. On the play I believe you are referring to, and this is worth commenting on because what I think we are seeing is Williams getting tested early this season, what you are seeing is Williams playing that pick up almost perfectly. Williams gets a stunt, something that we are seeing against Williams and Fredbeard alot. I suspect it's because teams know Williams is young and Fredbeard is just coming back so naturally, teams are going to test them, plus the fact that we have not handled that well in the past few games. Anyway, Jets are working a two man game there. Williams picks up his primary block, which is slanting to engage Fredbeard. Williams picks up his man, rides him over to Fredbeard and then has the agility and the technique to get back and reach the twist. In that situation, Williams is at a complete disadvantage. He is flatfooted, shifting his weight to reach the twist while the free guy has momentum on him. Williams does a fantastic job on that play. I don't understand what you are seeing, unless you are talking about a different play.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I wasn't insinuating it was on the OL.

Apologies if it came across that way. There is something amiss there, IMO.

Not at all. Just trying to respond to the conversation with what I saw and think, is all. No worries Seven.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Connor Williams had a rock solid performance in the Jets game.

He had 1 penalty but otherwise his execution was almost flawless.

The penalty was borderline. He took a defender to the ground. That play is allowed in college football.

He does not physically overwhelm defenders but his timing and positioning was terrific.

CW is quite good on 2nd level blocks. Better than average.

Connor Williams is quietly becoming a good young player.

Based on what exactly? YOUR analysis? I honestly dont put much stock in it.

 

[Tussinman]

PFF disagrees with you.

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/pff-offensive-scores-vs-jets.443094/https://cowboyszone.com/threads/pff-offensive-scores-vs-jets.443094/

3. Conner Williams 53.4 (typical performance ......needs to be benched)​

I can't believe people are actually defending Williams. He has almost as many penalities on 400 snaps as the other 4 combined starters have on 1400 snaps. Ranking below 60s but still starting are literally classified as a "determinent to the team" (his season score right now is 59).

Sucks that Williams got put into a bad situation (undersized rookie forced to start at a position he's never played and not really built for) and there's no i'll will towards him personally but reality is he is not a starting caliber NFL guard.

I really don't understand how you can defend his performance (has to specify "performance" or some snowflake will come in here and say don't attack him personally it's not his fault).