38 is the weak link on defense

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I believe Donovan Wilson deserves a shot at it at least he would be on-the-job training and definitely has more speed than Heath I could live with him getting burnt while he learns at least he'll give an effort

Heath has above average speed for an NFL Safety (4.48 forty).
 

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Sorry Jeff he has been playing his best football this season
Agreed but to be fair that's not saying alot.

Saying a 7th year player isn't playing at a usually solid backup level he's now playing a low level starter level isn't really a huge compliment
 

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Heath shaded to the side with 2 receivers. Should he have shaded to andersons side? The CB should have known he had no help since that was the coverage. The jets set this up, 2 receivers on 1 side and their deep threat on the other forcing the deep safety to move over to the side with 2 receivers and let anderson beat the 1 on 1 coverage. Heath did what he was taught based on how they lined up.
Exactly.

The number 1 requirement of the outside CBs in this scheme is to "stay on top" of the receiver. That means they might give up some catches but they must be there for challenge the catch and definitely be there to make the tackle.

It's even more critical for the boundary CB (covering the side with 1 WR) because the deep Safety will cheat to the side with 2 WRs.
 

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Dude, you have lost your mind. Learn to watch film.

1) Woods walked down in the box to cover Bell. Why you ask? because the Linebackers couldn't do their job. This is the same formation that Dallas walked down on before. Guess, what. The Jets audible double 9s.
2) Jeff Heath had to shade the side of the field with double Wrs. The safety (38) also had to watch any underneath crossing route that Jaylon did not pick-up.
3) Chido knew he was on an island against a faster receiver. But wait it gets better, play-action.....then.......double move, Chido bites , the play is over at this point, remember the island.
4) the Jets throw to the side 38 is not on and toward the middle of the field down the seam
5) Idiot fans can't break down plays and just say random nonsense on the forum
6) 38 breaks to the ball, not a bad angle, just trying to clean-up after Chido craps the bed.
This is all on Chido, and the D-line for not hitting the QB.

If the D-line and LBers would do their Jobs, then Heath and Woods would not have to clean up there crap.

Jaylon should be benched, he looks like garbage. Heath has outplayed Jaylon thus far.
Great analysis. It's good to know there are some people that understand football around here.
 

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Heath sucks but we’ve known that for years. The defense as a whole has been just completely bad. Robert Quinn seems to be the only bright spot.

It's really something that year in, year out it always seems that the newer players are the best performers on this team. What does that say about our coaching staff?
 

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Did anyone see our captain #38 on the 90 plus yard touchdown to Robbie Anderson?
This play perfectly summarizes his tenure as our starting strong safety. In key situations our opponents know that they can attack our strong safety at any time. Anybody who continues to defend this scrub is just a joke.
There appears to be more than just one weak link, but do you have a film clip? All I remember is Awuzie biting badly on the fake and getting completely burned.
 

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Wrong.

The Jets TEs had a total of 3 catches.

1 catch was on the side of the field away from Heath and Heath had no involvement in that play.

1 catch was with LVE covering the TE and Heath came in to finish the tackle.

1 catch was with Heath in coverage.


The 92 yard pass to the WR Anderson was the fault of CB Awuzie.

It's questionable if Heath had any chance to get to the WR.

On the broadcast view it appeared he had a chance but the High End Zone Camera view from the coaches film makes it appear unlikely that he could get there even with a deeper angle. A deep angle would mean he has more distance to travel but he would be behind the WR instead of in front of him.

The top rule with in the Cowboys scheme for the CBs in that coverage is to not let the receiver run after the catch. The scheme concedes that some deep passes will get completed but the CB must be able to make the tackle.

Awuzie was playing the boundary CB position as they call it in college. The side of the field with 1 receiver. The Cowboys have been cheating the deep Safety over towards the side of the field with 2 receivers. In college they would call Byron Jones the field CB on that play.

The other big plays that Awuzie has given up were also with him as the boundary CB and the Safety (not Heath) could not get there but at least Awuzie was able to make the tackle on those plays.

The other question is why was Heath the deep Safety? Woods is the FS but they sometimes flip them high/lo. One reason they flip them is when they play base with 3 LBs against 3 WR sets, they move Woods down to play like a CB because they don't have a slot CB with 3 LBs. That was not the case on the 92 yard play. They were in Nickel against 3 WRs.

X gonna give it to ya, gonna give it to ya!
 

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Did anyone see our captain #38 on the 90 plus yard touchdown to Robbie Anderson?
This play perfectly summarizes his tenure as our starting strong safety. In key situations our opponents know that they can attack our strong safety at any time. Anybody who continues to defend this scrub is just a joke.

I've always liked Heath in deep zone, but that play simply looks like a fail on his part.

Of course Awuzie failed, but how is that *not* a fail by Heath as well? What's the point of having a single high safety if you don't expect him to be able to protect over the top when the CBs fail?
 

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But worse than the play of the DTs could be the play of Jaylon Smith at MLB. When you watch the video and focus on him there are many plays that are just embarrassing. He reacts late, gets over-powered by offensive linemen (I mean he has no power to his game) and takes himself out of position a lot. He is not the player he was in college but college is not the NFL.

Marinelli again puts our players out of position.

I hate Smith at MLB. Smith's best plays are when he cuts off a player on the sidelines or blitzes. He should be on the edge where his straight line speed can be best used.

Meanwhile, LVE is much bigger and has a good feel for picking through the wash than Smith. He should be at MLB.
 

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I hate, hate, hate, hate to admit it but I think we will end up having corner as a top need in April.
 

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Heath has above average speed for an NFL Safety (4.48 forty).
Yeah that's not bad but I'm talkin about the natural ability to find the ball like Wilson has shown no I'm not completely sold on Wilson but I would like to see some more of him and that's all I was suggesting.
 

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I agree with you even though i dont think Heath is the weak link. Hes not an all pro but there are bigger issues on D than him IMO
No Doubt I would just like to see what we have in Wilson and figure out if there's potential or do we keep looking and we should always be looking anyway
 

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It's really something that year in, year out it always seems that the newer players are the best performers on this team. What does that say about our coaching staff?
All starts with the guy that oversees everything
 

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Did anyone see our captain #38 on the 90 plus yard touchdown to Robbie Anderson?
This play perfectly summarizes his tenure as our starting strong safety. In key situations our opponents know that they can attack our strong safety at any time. Anybody who continues to defend this scrub is just a joke.

Heath is bad for years now.

The game is simply too fast for him. He cant even control his hits, injures our own players.
 

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Exactly.

The number 1 requirement of the outside CBs in this scheme is to "stay on top" of the receiver. That means they might give up some catches but they must be there for challenge the catch and definitely be there to make the tackle.

It's even more critical for the boundary CB (covering the side with 1 WR) because the deep Safety will cheat to the side with 2 WRs.
The only thing he MIGHT have been able to do was not dive for the tackle and run him done. Possibly.
But he was on the right side, Chido got burnt by the double move.
 

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Did anyone see our captain #38 on the 90 plus yard touchdown to Robbie Anderson?
This play perfectly summarizes his tenure as our starting strong safety. In key situations our opponents know that they can attack our strong safety at any time. Anybody who continues to defend this scrub is just a joke.
It's fairly typical for some fans to point the finger at the last level of defense, but you're simply blaming the wrong player. Heath shaded to the side with 2 WR's and Awuzie got beat by a double move. That's on him. You want your safety to shade toward the traffic.
 

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I've always liked Heath in deep zone, but that play simply looks like a fail on his part.

Of course Awuzie failed, but how is that *not* a fail by Heath as well? What's the point of having a single high safety if you don't expect him to be able to protect over the top when the CBs fail?
He can't protect sideline to sideline. That's just not possible. I would need to see a replay to know if Heath had any chance to make a play, but some here have indicated that Heath was shaded to the other side because there were 2 receivers lined up on that side and only one on the side Awuzie was covering. If that's true, that might be the explanation.
 
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