Heath and Angles

[Gaede]

Looks pretty clear cut. Awuzie screwed up and then Heath screwed up too.

They both suck. You don't have to analyze screenshots frame-by-frame to see they both messed up and caused a 90+ yd TD.

 

[Beaker42]

Thanks x. I really appreciate your thoughts and insights as to plays and players. You could’ve summed this up much quicker by simply saying “Heath sucks more than any player who has ever sucked before and should never be on the field when it’s not a kicking situation.”

 

[Beaker42]

Lewis appeared to screw up and as you said, Heath was not watching for the run, he was watching the slot WR that nobody else was covering.

As you said, Lewis following the slot WR from one side of the formation to the other pre-snap indicates man coverage, but Lewis played zone.

Both outside CBs played man coverage, which normally means the Nickel CB would play man.

People love Lewis, but there are reasons that he is the 4th CB.

Notice how Byron Jones stays much deeper than the WR as compared to Awuzie trying to play tighter against Anderson. Regardless of speed, Awuzie needed to play further off if that's what he needs to stay over the top of the WR when he is isolated in man coverage with no help.

Awuzie needs to be drafted over so badly it’s not funny. He’s worse than our two worst corners ever COMBINED.

 

[xwalker]

Awuzie needs to be drafted over so badly it’s not funny. He’s worse than our two worst corners ever COMBINED.

Wrong.

 

[kumizi]

Imagine putting in this much effort into defending Jeff Heath.

 

[xwalker]

Is there a video of the play showing the entire field so the rest of us can make their own analysis. If it was not Heath's fault, I will have no problem saying so.

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I'll post the All-22 video in a post after this one.

• This image shows the primary issue which is that the slot WR was not covered by anybody.
• Heath had to stay in that area to at least provide over the top coverage on the slot WR.
• As shown in the image, Awuzie still has coverage on Anderson at that point.
• Heath is the only defender with any type of coverage on the slot WR as shown in the image.

Note:

• In previous games when Awuzie gave up long passes, it was the same situation.
• Awuzie as the boundary CB (side with only 1 receiver) and the deep Safety was shaded to the side with 2 receivers.
• Heath was not the deep Safety on those plays.
• It happened in the game Thompson was the deep Safety and it happened with Woods as the deep Safety.

 

[xwalker]

All-22 view of the Jets 92 yard TD pass.

 

[xwalker]

The High End Zone Camera view shows that the Cowboys were very focused on the run.

• It was 1st and 10 with the QB under Center.
• DT Woods slides to fill the gap to his left.
• Collins delays his pass rush until the RB didn't get the hand-off.
• Quinn was very close to getting to the QB.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

All-22 view of the Jets 92 yard TD pass.

I see Heath hesitate his backpedal staring into the backfield.

 

[Hennessy_King]

I see Heath hesitate his backpedal staring into the backfield.

Yup. @xwalker wants to make Jourdan lewis look bad so he blames him but it looks like a zone concept in the middle of the field and both outside corners in man with single high over the top. You notice the LBs and Jourdan lewis drop into a zone look. Chido gets that work and Heath is caught for a split second looking in the backfield.

 

[xwalker]

So what does it matter if it was a bad angle or if was his slow reaction and slow feet? The end result is still a 92 yard TD for the other team.

you're trying too hard.

Looks pretty clear cut. Awuzie screwed up and then Heath screwed up too.

They both suck. You don't have to analyze screenshots frame-by-frame to see they both messed up and caused a 90+ yd TD.

Imagine putting in this much effort into defending Jeff Heath.

It's called an analysis.

I prefer to analyze what actually happened over just whining about "so and so sucks...".

Personally, I would prefer it to have been Heath's fault over being the fault of Awuzie or the Scheme.

Unfortunately, the game footage shows that Awuzie and the scheme that put him in that position are at the top of the blame list.

Lewis not covering the slot WR is also a bigger issue than Heath.

 

[Hennessy_King]

It's called an analysis.

I prefer to analyze what actually happened over just whining about "so and so sucks...".

Personally, I would prefer it to have been Heath's fault over being the fault of Awuzie or the Scheme.

Unfortunately, the game footage shows that Awuzie and the scheme that put him in that position are at the top of the blame list.

Lewis not covering the slot WR is also a bigger issue than Heath.

Lewis is in a zone concept with the LBs. You are delusional

 

[ondaedg]

Heath did take a bad angle. As a matter of fact he took an awful angle. Instead of making a play on the ball he should have conceded the catch and took the angle to make the tackle on the receiver. It's obvious he isn't going to make that play and should have been obvious to him.

 

[xwalker]

I see Heath hesitate his backpedal staring into the backfield.

He initially starts to transition at the 25 yard line then he sees that the slot WR is clearly not being covered by anybody and Heath then back-peddles to about the 30.

Maybe Heath could have transitioned at about the 28 instead of the about the 29.5.

The QBs arm is going back and the QB is looking at Anderson when Heath is at about the 28.

The QB releases the ball when Heath is at about the 29.5 yard line which is the point the Heath had transitioned.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He initially starts to transition at the 25 yard line then he sees that the slot WR is clearly not being covered by anybody and Heath then back-peddles to about the 30.

Maybe Heath could have transitioned at about the 28 instead of the about the 29.5.

The QBs arm is going back and the QB is looking at Anderson when Heath is at about the 28.

The QB releases the ball when Heath is at about the 29.5 yard line which is the point the Heath had transitioned.

He's the single high S, x. The guy is running a shallow crossing route and there is a deeper route on the other side of the field.

Zone defenders are taught to get into their drop and drive on the football. That crossing route is designed to fool him and he was. It's an old old route combo.

it's not all on Heath as both corners were scorched but that doesn't exonerate him either.

 

[Hennessy_King]

He's the single high S, x. The guy is running a shallow crossing route and there is a deeper route on the other side of the field.

Zone defenders are taught to get into their drop and drive on the football. That crossing route is designed to fool him and he was. It's an old old route combo.

it's not all on Heath as both corners were scorched but that doesn't exonerate him either.

Lewis was not scorched he was in a zone not playing man to man.

 

[Gaede]

It's called an analysis.

I prefer to analyze what actually happened over just whining about "so and so sucks...".

Personally, I would prefer it to have been Heath's fault over being the fault of Awuzie or the Scheme.

Unfortunately, the game footage shows that Awuzie and the scheme that put him in that position are at the top of the blame list.

Lewis not covering the slot WR is also a bigger issue than Heath.

Sorry, what you've done is overanalyze. Why spend so much time reading between the lines when the proof is right there in front of you? Two players made very obvious mistakes, and you can slow it down all you want but their mistakes are right there for all to see, plain as day

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Lewis was not scorched he was in a zone not playing man to man.

Well then the LB were way too far up.

 

[KingintheNorth]

I'm not excusing Awuzie at all. He got fooled badly. However, he had outside leverage so it would appear he thought he had help inside.

Heath is consistently a non factor in deep coverage. As the single high safety (as he was in that play) your obligation is the vertical threat first, especially in deep thirds, where the CB thinks you are helping. His eyes should have gone right to the #1 threat. He can always rally to the underneath play. I've seen for too many years that Heath has really poor FBI and the fact that opens, then pauses and shuffles, before finally opening up to the deep threat, shows to me he's simply not instinctive or disciplined. People here want so badly to turn him into a solid NFL player but he's a bottom-end starter in this league who will get you beat in the most critical moments.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Well then the LB were way too far up.

What else is new. There's no way Lewis is in man coverage there. Unless he totally blew his assignment. Which again doesn't matter anyway.