Heath and Angles

[xwalker]

Heath did take a bad angle. As a matter of fact he took an awful angle. Instead of making a play on the ball he should have conceded the catch and took the angle to make the tackle on the receiver. It's obvious he isn't going to make that play and should have been obvious to him.

He would need to take more steps if he tried to angle further downfield.

I don't think he would get there at any angle or if he just focused on the tackle instead of any attempt at the ball.

On the original broadcast view I did think that he went for the ball and missed the tackle because of it, but after multiple reviews of the coach film angles, I'm not convinced he could he get there regardless.

The slot WR not being covered by Lewis or the LBs is what delayed Heath. If the slot WR was covered Heath was going to transition to run at about the 25 but when it was clear that nobody was covering the slot WR he stayed in his back-peddle until almost the 30 before transitioning to run downfield.

The slow motion version:

 

[buybuydandavis]

I'll post the All-22 video in a post after this one.

• This image shows the primary issue which is that the slot WR was not covered by anybody.
• Heath had to stay in that area to at least provide over the top coverage on the slot WR.
• As shown in the image, Awuzie still has coverage on Anderson at that point.
• Heath is the only defender with any type of coverage on the slot WR as shown in the image.

"Stay in the area" does not mean "stay in the same spot. Heath had to be somewhere that provides over the top coverage on the slot WR. He also needed to be somewhere that provided over the top coverage on Anderson. There are plenty of somewheres that provide coverage on the slot WR *and* Anderson.

An image does not show whether Awuzie still has coverage. An image does not show speed and direction, from which we infer momentum. Watching the video, by the time off the image you show, Awuzie has already bit on the stutter. He plants his right foot behind him at around the 18 to move laterally right across the field and is lunging at the WR by your photo at the 19. He's beat like a drum.

The job of a single high FS is not to cover the slot WR and ignore everyone else if he's open. It's just not, even *if* Awuzie weren't beat at that point.

I suggest everyone interested go to youtube an play the video full screen in 1080 at 0.25x.

In the close up shots of Heath missing the tackle, he *barely* misses. He gets his hand on Anderson's hip. That's how close he was. If he started a little earlier, or a couple yards to the left, he makes the tackle. May prevent the reception entirely, as he's nearly simultaneous with the ball as it is.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What else is new. There's no way Lewis is in man coverage there. Unless he totally blew his assignment. Which again doesn't matter anyway.

It's hard to assign cause with them. If they are told to overplay run looks then it is hard to hold them at fault.

At the end of the day I don't see a scenario where Heath can be excused for that pause in his drop.

 

[Dre11]

"Stay in the area" does not mean "stay in the same spot. Heath had to be somewhere that provides over the top coverage on the slot WR. He also needed to be somewhere that provided over the top coverage on Anderson. There are plenty of somewheres that provide coverage on the slot WR *and* Anderson.

An image does not show whether Awuzie still has coverage. An image does not show speed and direction, from which we infer momentum. Watching the video, by the time off the image you show, Awuzie has already bit on the stutter. He plants his right foot behind him at around the 18 to move laterally right across the field and is lunging at the WR by your photo at the 19. He's beat like a drum.

The job of a single high FS is not to cover the slot WR and ignore everyone else if he's open. It's just not, even *if* Awuzie weren't beat at that point.

I suggest everyone interested go to youtube an play the video full screen in 1080 at 0.25x.

In the close up shots of Heath missing the tackle, he *barely* misses. He gets his hand on Anderson's hip. That's how close he was. If he started a little earlier, or a couple yards to the left, he makes the tackle. May prevent the reception entirely, as he's nearly simultaneous with the ball as it is.

I don't know people don't listen. His responsibility is to cover the deep half of the field...period which means don't get beat deep.

 

[Hennessy_King]

It's hard to assign cause with them. If they are told to overplay run looks then it is hard to hold them at fault.

At the end of the day I don't see a scenario where Heath can be excused for that pause in his drop.

I still blame chido more than heath cuz its man coverage but heath offered zero help over the top

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I still blame chido more than heath cuz its man coverage but heath offered zero help over the top

Or cover 3 meaning he is supposed to stay on top of the route but I agree.

 

[buybuydandavis]

it's not all on Heath as both corners were scorched but that doesn't exonerate him either.

This.

Awuzie gets beat like a drum.

I don't know what Lewis and Jaylon think they're doing. Back the hell up. You can't let that slot guy just run up the field by you. The LOS is the 7, and the slot wr is running free upfield at the 17 with 3 yards of depth on Lewis and Jaylon and them still facing the LOS. Totally blown coverage. Slot guy should have just kept heading upfield to pressure Heath instead of cutting back into Lee's drop.

Heath is facing a complete screw up in front of him. Tough row to hoe. But he didn't play it right either. It's his job to provide help over the top to fix the screw ups underneath him. He failed, but not so far as the other guys.

Go watch Jaylon. He's *totally* confused.

 

[buybuydandavis]

I still blame chido more than heath cuz its man coverage but heath offered zero help over the top

Even messing up, Heath was close and arrived almost simultaneously with the ball.

Anderson is a 4.34 combine guy hit in full stride by the QB. Heath missed cutting him off by a yard or two, a couple hundredths of a second. That's not zero help, it just wasn't enough given the speed and execution the Jets had on that play.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Even messing up, Heath was close and arrived almost simultaneously with the ball.

Anderson is a 4.34 combine guy hit in full stride by the QB. Heath missed cutting him off by a yard or two, a couple hundredths of a second. That's not zero help, it just wasn't enough given the speed and execution the Jets had on that play.

Zero help on the play. The ball was even thrown inside if the ball was better he would have been even firther away. It was him slowing his backpedal for that split second that made all the difference

 

[Hennessy_King]

This.

Awuzie gets beat like a drum.

I don't know what Lewis and Jaylon think they're doing. Back the hell up. You can't let that slot guy just run up the field by you. The LOS is the 7, and the slot wr is running free upfield at the 17 with 3 yards of depth on Lewis and Jaylon and them still facing the LOS. Totally blown coverage. Slot guy should have just kept heading upfield to pressure Heath instead of cutting back into Lee's drop.

Heath is facing a complete screw up in front of him. Tough row to hoe. But he didn't play it right either. It's his job to provide help over the top to fix the screw ups underneath him. He failed, but not so far as the other guys.

Go watch Jaylon. He's *totally* confused.

I love this lol. Its obvious jaylon lve and jourdan were playing zone please stop. If a guy ran up the seam the deep safety is supposed to be there. The problem is chido getting smoked on the play

 

[Hennessy_King]

Or cover 3 meaning he is supposed to stay on top of the route but I agree.

It looks like a cover 1 with underneath zone and man outside. It was an obvious stop the run call and the jets killed it because of course it wasnt disguised at all

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It looks like a cover 1 with underneath zone and man outside. It was an obvious stop the run call and the jets killed it because of course it wasnt disguised at all

i just don't see the club being that complicated. Man under i can buy but a hybrid as you describe doesn't jive with what they do.

 

[Dre11]

Or cover 3 meaning he is supposed to stay on top of the route but I agree.

It was cover 1. Chido stumbling on stop and go was terrible, it wasn't even that good of a fake.

 

[Hennessy_King]

i just don't see the club being that complicated. Man under i can buy but a hybrid as you describe doesn't jive with what they do.

Ok so you feel it was man across the board and jourdan lewis totally blew his assignment. He didnt get beat he obviously drops in a zone

 

[Hennessy_King]

It was cover 1. Chido stumbling on stop and go was terrible, it wasn't even that good of a fake.

Im tryin to tell em. They aint tryin to hear it lol

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Ok so you feel it was man across the board and jourdan lewis totally blew his assignment. He didnt get beat he obviously drops in a zone

No I am saying they would either go cover 3, 2, man, or man under. Hybrid schemes is not what they do.

 

[Hennessy_King]

No I am saying they would either go cover 3, 2, man, or man under. Hybrid schemes is not what they do.

Well they did on that play.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Well they did on that play.

Looks like cover 3 to me.

 

[buybuydandavis]

I love this lol. Its obvious jaylon lve and jourdan were playing zone please stop. If a guy ran up the seam the deep safety is supposed to be there. The problem is chido getting smoked on the play

Zone with 5 yards of depth? That leave a lot of field for the rest of the team to cover.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Looks like cover 3 to me.

I mean i guess it could be that as well. I just feel its cover 1 with press man on the outside