News: Zeke admits other RBs are playing better

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kumizi said:
1. No one is saying trade for Cook. We’re saying in one facet of the game, Zeke is clearly not a top running back. Explosiveness or home run ability.

2. Tell me how many pro bowlers Cook runs behind.

I think Zeke is an elite RB. I wish he’d lose some weight or whatever it is so we can see 30, 40 yard runs like rookie Zeke.
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If you arent trading cook for zeke then i have nothing further to say to you except enjoy 21s greatness like i am.
 

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kumizi said:
1. No one is saying trade for Cook. We’re saying in one facet of the game, Zeke is clearly not a top running back. Explosiveness or home run ability.

2. Tell me how many pro bowlers Cook runs behind.

I think Zeke is an elite RB. I wish he’d lose some weight or whatever it is so we can see 30, 40 yard runs like rookie Zeke.
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So, you'd trade a few longer runs for the ability to move the chains? I'm guessing you hated Emmit.
 
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Zeke is on pace to have another great year. Pretty incredible when consider he missed all of training camp!
 

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MINN has an emerging OL that might be a top 5 OL. So, that means Cooks sucks too, right? Just a product of his OL, obsviously!!!!
 
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Average speed at the LOS is a ridiculously stupid stat. Zeke has lost speed, I'm not denying that, but an RB shouldn't be hitting the LOS at a full sprint.

Look at your most common run plays. In outside zone, you're supposed to read the defense as it flows laterally and you don't accelerate until you find the cutback lane. On an inside or zone duo play, you actually want to press the LOS and play it kind of slowly to force the LBs to commit, then you cut back to where they aren't. Power/pin-and-pull type plays reward raw downhill speed more than zone does, but you still need to be patient and follow your lead blocker until he hits the kick-out. In none of these situations is a running back supposed to open the throttle and show off his maximum speed.

The only time I can think you'd want a back heading towards the LOS at full speed is on a stretch play where he's trying to get to the edge ASAP (and that's assuming he has a clean path to the edge), or when the OL immediately blows a huge hole open in his assigned gap and he has a straight shot to the second level.

As others have said, it's exactly like the QB ball speed metric. Intuitively it seems like a good way to measure arm strength, but the problem is that QBs aren't pitchers throwing fastballs. Even for deep passes, throwing a flat heater is BAD. You want arc under it, you want touch, and you want a QB who can mentally "see" how the safeties will react when they see the ball thrown - so when you get down to it, max speed is pretty much useless. Deshaun Watson has one of the worst "fastballs" in the NFL per the radar gun and he's probably top 10 in the league at deep throws.
 
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Sarge said:
Zeke needs to take the off-season far more seriously moving forward. Having said that, his demise as a RB is being ridiculously exaggerated.
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This is the real issue. It's now been four consecutive years starting slow for Zeke.

There's always been excuses; he had some nagging injury as a rookie, he obviously had tons of legal drama in Years 2-3, he wasn't even with the team this training camp. But at this point I think it's pretty clear that he doesn't keep himself in shape unless he has to, i.e. regular season games.
 
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The Quest for Six said:
Compared to his rookie season, Zeke looks like he's lacking burst and a second gear in the hole...I don't know if he has an injury to his lower body but he doesn't look like the same back to me..
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There were a few times when he finished runs, he would come up limping.
 
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Sarge said:
Having said that, his demise as a RB is being ridiculously exaggerated.
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It really is. Half way through the season and he has 6 touchdowns with over 900 yards from scrimmage with a 4.7 YPC and that's with him having a slow start.
NorTex said:
Zeke is on pace to have another great year. Pretty incredible when consider he missed all of training camp!
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Missed all of training camp and he'll still have double digit TDs and near 2000 yards from scrimmage. It is incredible
 
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DakPresgoat said:
At least he is being honest about it.

I believe this is Cook’s third year in the league. It will be interesting to see if he is willing to play next year without a new deal. Especially given how he is playing this season.
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yes but hes only played like 20 games , missed all of last year ACL and a lot his rookie year.. he maybe having a better SEASON then zeke but nowhere near the better career.. dont mistake the two..injuries matter A LOT in new contracts, Cook has so much less leverage then zeke.. Zekes led the league in rushing really all his first 3 seasons, 2 rushing titles and led in YPG in his 2017 missing 6 games because of a bogus suspension and in the top 5 this season..

theres no comparison in Careers to date.. sorry but Zekes been eating from snap one to snap 800... it maters a lot..consistency and productivity meet at EE..

just because a few players are having GOOD SEASONs doesnt make them better..a few backs in top 6 have not had their BYEs yet either, EE has..lets recalculate after game 16..
 
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DakPresgoat said:
At least he is being honest about it.

I believe this is Cook’s third year in the league. It will be interesting to see if he is willing to play next year without a new deal. Especially given how he is playing this season.
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Yeah but he won't have the leverage due to missing significant time due to injuries.
 

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AmariChill said:
At least he knows he can still improve to be with the other RB's that are playing better...
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All that matter is he is hot and fresh in the playoffs. Who cares about stats. Just win when it counts Zeke!!!!!!!

The NFL regular season =
 
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Cook is the best RB in the NFL, Barkley would probably be the guy if he were healthy.
 
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