Father time and Tom Brady

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Does he look like on decline? I mean he is 42 going on 43. He should be done right?
 
:muttley:Father time is just fine.
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Pape said:
They will be competitive for a while longer. Brady isn't finished yet. Nor is BB.
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You are a Pats fan right? I might be wrong so please correct me if you think otherwise. To me, Brady is just a bystander in Bellichick era. Pats success is Bellichick related.

Pats would still win multiple Superbowls with Bellichick even with no Brady. But Brady could maybe win at most 1 if his coach wasn't Bellichick.

I am a Bellichick fan. Maybe because he was our DC at Giants back in the day. I have a soft spot for him. But I think Pats will still win at least 1 Superbowl even after Brady retires as long as Bellichick is coaching the team.
 
Shunpike said:
You are a Pats fan right? I might be wrong so please correct me if you think otherwise. To me, Brady is just a bystander in Bellichick era. Pats success is Bellichick related.

Pats would still win multiple Superbowls with Bellichick even with no Brady. But Brady could maybe win at most 1 if his coach wasn't Bellichick.

I am a Bellichick fan. Maybe because he was our DC at Giants back in the day. I have a soft spot for him. But I think Pats will still win at least 1 Superbowl even after Brady retires as long as Bellichick is coaching the team.
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I am a Patriots fan.

Brady is not a bystander by any means. Belichick and the Patriots would not have been as successful as they are without Tom Brady. Brady would not have been as successful as he is without Belichick. Together they are the perfect storm of a driven coach and a driven quarterback.

Would they both be successful without each other? Thats a question we will never have to answer.
 
Shunpike said:
You are a Pats fan right? I might be wrong so please correct me if you think otherwise. To me, Brady is just a bystander in Bellichick era. Pats success is Bellichick related.

Pats would still win multiple Superbowls with Bellichick even with no Brady. But Brady could maybe win at most 1 if his coach wasn't Bellichick.

I am a Bellichick fan. Maybe because he was our DC at Giants back in the day. I have a soft spot for him. But I think Pats will still win at least 1 Superbowl even after Brady retires as long as Bellichick is coaching the team.
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How do you figure Brady couldn't win without Belechek? Nonsense. Eli won 2 , so that pretty much proves the point that just about anyone can win 2.
 
Brady is done. Sorry, Pape. He's even hearing footsteps that aren't there now. He's a bare shell of his former self, and could only win a super bowl w/ a Bronco's type D from 2015.
 
kskboys said:
Brady is done. Sorry, Pape. He's even hearing footsteps that aren't there now. He's a bare shell of his former self, and could only win a super bowl w/ a Bronco's type D from 2015.
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I think you are exaggerating a bit here. By no means is he a 2015 Peyton Manning type player. If you think that, you are slightly more delusional than Jerruh after drinking a fifth of Johnny Walker Ksk.

But if you are thinking along the lines of him needing a bit more return from his receivers, then yes. He needs others to help, which he has not been getting. The loss of Gronk and the lack of overall quality depth in the receiving corp has really hurt us this year.

As for Brady, there is no doubt he is getting towards the end of his road. But I wont bet against him.

Max Kellerman and his cliff be damned, lol !

I won't give up and declare him "dead" until they put him in the ground and cover him with dirt (or synthetic turf as it were)...
 
Pape said:
I think you are exaggerating a bit here. By no means is he a 2015 Peyton Manning type player. If you think that, you are slightly more delusional than Jerruh after drinking a fifth of Johnny Walker Ksk.

But if you are thinking along the lines of him needing a bit more return from his receivers, then yes. He needs others to help, which he has not been getting. The loss of Gronk and the lack of overall quality depth in the receiving corp has really hurt us this year.

As for Brady, there is no doubt he is getting towards the end of his road. But I wont bet against him.

Max Kellerman and his cliff be damned, lol !

I won't give up and declare him "dead" until they put him in the ground and cover him with dirt (or synthetic turf as it were)...
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If you can't see that he is hearing footsteps and throwing the ball away a ton, then you are delusional!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Pape said:
Certainly is not playing well. Is it him, the talent around him, or both? Only time will tell.
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Well, he has absolute crap around him.

He's not TB of old but he would have 50 TDs easy without lineup.
 
kskboys said:
If you can't see that he is hearing footsteps and throwing the ball away a ton, then you are delusional!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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you and jerry finished that whole damned bottle, didntcha? hes throwing the ball away because he has no open targets... thought you could have figured that one out
 
Pape said:
Certainly is not playing well. Is it him, the talent around him, or both? Only time will tell.
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I'm not going to say father time has caught up to him until he has a nice supporting cast and still struggles. Right now their offensive personnel is not very good, and that's what I'll go by.
 
He's had an extraordinary career, but even the very greatests can't beat Father Time. He has maybe one more season, but then I'm sure Belechick will find someone outstanding.
 
Patriots will find two more talents at WR next year and their offense will take off again. And these talks will be put on hold for a few more seasons.
 
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