All I want for Christmas is an Elite QB

[Diehardblues]

In reality neither is an elite QB.

Jerry doesn’t appear as intimidated with Elite talent as much as Elite coaching.

We just keep accepting lesser talent at QB because it sparks us at the time.

Look how an Elite OL and RB elevated us. And last year adding an Elite WR. Not sure why we don’t think an Elite QB could have similar effects?

 

[tyke1doe]

Could he? How do you know?

Because that's what elite quarterbacks do. The Patriots and Rams went into half-time at the Super Bowl tied at 3-3. Guess which quarterback scored a touchdown to put his team - in that type defensive struggle - ahead for good?

In the Patriots game, each team scored three times. Guess which quarterback led his team to the lone touchdown in that game? B-R-A-D-Y! Which quarterback led his team to three field goals? D-A-K!

Quarterbacks received the "elite" tag because they do what they can to score more than the other team. That's why they're called ELITE!

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

We have one of the best OL, best RB’s and WR’s. All we need is a QB to match their talent level.

It’s very difficult winning in this league without an Elite QB. And when I say winning I mean against the better teams including in the playoffs.

I just don’t see how we could have built a better supporting cast around him.

The Rookie contract is over. I’d love to keep him as our backup. We finally found one we can win some games with but not any championships.

Merry Christmas

The question is: Can the cowboys Develop an Elite QB? I feel that both Romo and Dak are good but had the potential to be more. I mean, I think Romo would've been greater if Parcells would've stayed. Right now I feel we have a system where Quarterbacks are wasted in.

 

[ArtClink]

We have one of the best OL, best RB’s and WR’s. All we need is a QB to match their talent level.

It’s very difficult winning in this league without an Elite QB. And when I say winning I mean against the better teams including in the playoffs.

I just don’t see how we could have built a better supporting cast around him.

The Rookie contract is over. I’d love to keep him as our backup. We finally found one we can win some games with but not any championships.

Merry Christmas

You'll have to go all the way back to Aikman or Staubach for your elite qb.

 

[Eightneight]

So does 85% of the league. Let's take this one step at a time and see what new coaching schemes can do for this team. I'm willing to bet its going to make a positive difference IF JJ will land the right guy.

 

[Diehardblues]

So does 85% of the league. Let's take this one step at a time and see what new coaching schemes can do for this team. I'm willing to bet its going to make a positive difference IF JJ will land the right guy.

Well, that’s a different Christmas wish. This is mine.

 

[Blackrain]

Good post.

I think the team and the players do as much as they can.

Each year is different in the current NFL.

For an old timer like me, I prefer lineal progress its non-linear in today's game.

Meaning a fan has to expect anything from week to week.

The competition is fierce and things change weekly.

So digging in my heels to slow it down no longer works.

All true Reds !!
Everything I figure is going to logically progress seems to go in the opposite direction .

I figure our defense is going to progress . Heck our young LBs have regressed and Sean Lee who I thought was done is playing well .

Figure Taco is going to mature and become a force , not with our team and after we get rid of him he has as many sacks as our Star player we paid a fortune to .

We got a kicker who can make long FGs didnt figure he was going to miss all the ones at normal range and leave 30 points out there .

Figured since we paid our RB a ton of cash and used much Cap on the Oline we would run the ball well turned into a passing offense .

Didnt make sense to lose to the Bills , Bears , and an Injury riddled Eagles team while crushing the Rams .

So Im going with anything can happen the Eagles will lose and we will beat the Skins and get in because that is not what should logically happen . LOLOL

 

[Blackrain]

Jerry doesn’t appear as intimidated with Elite talent as much as Elite coaching.

We just keep accepting lesser talent at QB because it sparks us at the time.

Look how an Elite OL and RB elevated us. And last year adding an Elite WR. Not sure why we don’t think an Elite QB could have similar effects?

While we have a GM that runs the team like a Hobby and a coach with inferior talent an Elite QB may have a positive effect but still will not have the desired effect of winning a championship. Rodgers would not win a SB for this team he would just struggle trying to elevate a mismanaged team and waste his career. Breese would do the same .

Heck these Elite guys have only won one SB with teams that are managed correctly let them have to overcome Jerrys friends and family plan and see how they would fare

Rodgers and Breese are 2 of the most elite QBs ever to have played a total of 29yrs with well coached well run franchises and have all of 2 SB wins together .

That tells me there are no guarantees especially with Jerry at the controls

 

[CowboysBravesSpurs]

Romo didn’t take over until 2006 as quite a rare product. IMO he developed into a franchise QB with Garrett and flourished in his offense.

Him developing had nothing to do with Garrett and more to do with Parcells & Peyton. Stop giving Garrett credit for things he has nothing to do with. You have a crush on Garrett or what?

 

[IrishAnto]

Jerry doesn’t appear as intimidated with Elite talent as much as Elite coaching.

We just keep accepting lesser talent at QB because it sparks us at the time.

Look how an Elite OL and RB elevated us. And last year adding an Elite WR. Not sure why we don’t think an Elite QB could have similar effects?

Because Elite talent only goes so far without a good organisation surrounding it and with the Jones in charge that ain’t going to happen.
At times in the last 24 years we’ve had the talent to at least get to a conference championship and yet here we are still waiting.
With the salary cap and free agency you can no longer bludgeon your way with talent to a SB.
It all starts at the top and we’re stuck with Jerry and Stephen so Elite QB or not, get used to more of the same.

 

[Diehardblues]

Because Elite talent only goes so far without a good organisation surrounding it and with the Jones in charge that ain’t going to happen.
At times in the last 24 years we’ve had the talent to at least get to a conference championship and yet here we are still waiting.
With the salary cap and free agency you can no longer bludgeon your way with talent to a SB.
It all starts at the top and we’re stuck with Jerry and Stephen so Elite QB or not, get used to more of the same.

But you’re assuming we’ve had enough Elite talent to make a championship game despite overcoming our dysfunctional leadership.

 

[Diehardblues]

Him developing had nothing to do with Garrett and more to do with Parcells & Peyton. Stop giving Garrett credit for things he has nothing to do with. You have a crush on Garrett or what?

No crush but that’s typical attempt to discredit the messenger . I’m just giving him his due for the time he spent with Romo. It’s short sighted and possibly agenda driven to not believe there wasn't more impact from 2007 on . Romo certainly improved from his 2006 debut.

 

[Diehardblues]

While we have a GM that runs the team like a Hobby and a coach with inferior talent an Elite QB may have a positive effect but still will not have the desired effect of winning a championship. Rodgers would not win a SB for this team he would just struggle trying to elevate a mismanaged team and waste his career. Breese would do the same .

Heck these Elite guys have only won one SB with teams that are managed correctly let them have to overcome Jerrys friends and family plan and see how they would fare

Rodgers and Breese are 2 of the most elite QBs ever to have played a total of 29yrs with well coached well run franchises and have all of 2 SB wins together .

That tells me there are no guarantees especially with Jerry at the controls

Of course there’s no guarantees. It’s just my Christmas wish.

And 2 Super Bowls In 29 years along with the other championship appearances looks like quite an improvement to me. Not sure why my Christmas wish isn’t more embraced?

 

[black label]

elite qb is not wacky dacky

 

[IrishAnto]

But you’re assuming we’ve had enough Elite talent to make a championship game despite overcoming our dysfunctional leadership.

No I’m not.
Quite the opposite in fact.
In this era of the NFL we’d be very lucky to amass enough talent in any one year to overcome our GM’s deficiencies.
That’s why we haven’t seen a Championship game around here for 24 years.

 

[Diehardblues]

No I’m not.
Quite the opposite in fact.
In this era of the NFL we’d be very lucky to amass enough talent in any one year to overcome our GM’s deficiencies.
That’s why we haven’t seen a Championship game around here for 24 years.

I understand but you were saying our coaching has been holding us back which I’d interpret we had enough talent for more success.

 

[Redball Express]

All true Reds !!
Everything I figure is going to logically progress seems to go in the opposite direction .

I figure our defense is going to progress . Heck our young LBs have regressed and Sean Lee who I thought was done is playing well .

Figure Taco is going to mature and become a force , not with our team and after we get rid of him he has as many sacks as our Star player we paid a fortune to .

We got a kicker who can make long FGs didnt figure he was going to miss all the ones at normal range and leave 30 points out there .

Figured since we paid our RB a ton of cash and used much Cap on the Oline we would run the ball well turned into a passing offense .

Didnt make sense to lose to the Bills , Bears , and an Injury riddled Eagles team while crushing the Rams .

So Im going with anything can happen the Eagles will lose and we will beat the Skins and get in because that is not what should logically happen . LOLOL

Let's just form a club and call it..

The Less Than Hotz Boys..

 

[Blackrain]

Of course there’s no guarantees. It’s just my Christmas wish.

And 2 Super Bowls In 29 years along with the other championship appearances looks like quite an improvement to me. Not sure why my Christmas wish isn’t more embraced?

We have won 3 SBs in that length of time . Your Xmas wish is not embraced because it is a band aid on the problem and may get us one game farther down the road only to frustrate our fan base more

Here are the things that need to be elite to actually WIN A SUPER BOWL

1 OWNER
2 GM
3 Coach
4 QB
5 Scheme
6 HOF D lineman
7 HOF RB
8 HOF WR
9 HOF DB
10 HOF LT

Go over these till memorized then adjust your Xmas list accordingly LOLOL

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Tony didnt get benched he got hurt running in a meaningless preseason game our backup was also hurt so Dak got thrown in to start as a rookie . He was declared the man because there was nobody else . What exactly is Dak supposed to say put Tony in Im not capable .

Like I said earlier this team is run as a rich mans hobby . A real NFL GM and Coach Not part of the friends and family plan might have evaluated Tonys health condition differently and put him back as the starter when he was deemed healthy . The only way Dak entered in to this decision was playing very well under the circumstances .

Jerry is a gambler and has made no bones about the fact he makes all decisions and is in full control. Whatever dose not satisfy people about Dak is not his fault as he is trying his best to get better and costing us nothing so far . Its Jerrys fault for not using a top draft pick when Romos health started to go bad and Jerrys fault for not drafting another QB if Daks play was not good enough.

In short Dak is working up to his ability Jerry needs to make a change if its not good enough and the blame needs to be placed with him .

Being overly critical of Dak because Jerry chose to go with him over Tony is what a handful do on this forum . Their agenda is clear ,football IQ noted , opinions embellished and biased to the point of having no credibility and being ignored .

DUDE......you are so far off base. Um...yes Tony DID get benched. The moment he was healthy enough to come back in...coached kept him on the bench except one series...then BENCHED AGAIN. You are rewriting history to suit your agenda. BENCHED.

Jerry has the power over...EVERYTHING? Then what the f are we doing HERE? We're here to talk all things Cowboys....Dak too. For better or worse.

I am most certainly NOT "overly-critical". Certainly NOT because Jerry (or whoever) chose to go with Dak. Heck I've spent more time defending a position with YOU, that criticizing Dak.
The only criticism I have is very poor accuracy in the last 4-5 games. It's the only time EVER I have been critical. The video I quoted...did you even watch it? Probably not...you;d rather spend more time arguing.

You are not only way off base with me....but your crusade to silence critics of Dak are silly and immature. Look at you..spending so much time in a thread MADE for criticizing and probably replacing Dak....which I am not in favor of by the way.

 

[Mk2_Cowboys]

When Cowboys go through a decade of Quincy Carters people that hated Romo and Dak will finally get it . That’s what it’s going to take .