Disappointment of Demarcus Lawrence

[Doomsday101]

It wasn't the same defense. They changed from a cover-2 to a cover-1/cover-3. They also stopped playing Lawrence on the weak side completely. Complain all you want about his play, but at least get the facts right. The defense wasn't remotely the same in 19 as it was in 17.

Yeah not his fault. BS guy he played like crap and if you choose to defend that that is on you. Hell lets pay coaches more money since they are held to accountability while players get the free ride can play like **** and be excused for it. He was not getting double team that much and even vs backup OL players still was not getting it done

 

[Hawkeye19]

D Law failed to deliver elite production while being paid as an elite player. That is on him.

The dysfunction around him-- while not his fault-- is not an excuse. He talks too much, and fails to back it up. He needs to shut up, work hard, and prove his worth each and every season on the gridiron. His attitude of entitlement while never achieving anything as a team, is a big part of the problem in our locker room culture. He is supposed to be a leader, he is paid like one, and he speaks with authority like he is one-- but his example is falling short in some areas.

I hope that these macro changes on the coaching staff give him some time to reflect on himself, mature, and get back to being a professional football player. This year was a true disappointment for him IMO.

 

[texbumthelife]

How is it ridiculous? He's the #1 paid defensive player in the entire NFL. We set a new market for DE's by signing him to that enormous contract.

I can name at least 20 better defensive ends than him. Total reach of a contract. Keep making excuses. DWare was never a top 5 contract like DLaw.

"Making excuses"

Like I have anything to excuse. I didn't write the contract, bud.

 

[texbumthelife]

Yeah not his fault. BS guy he played like crap and if you choose to defend that that is on you. Hell lets pay coaches more money since they are held to accountability while players get the free ride can play like **** and be excused for it. He was not getting double team that much and even vs backup OL players still was not getting it done

I've literally said his play was disappointing over and over. I don't have to defend ****, I didn't write, offer, or sign the contract.

 

[texbumthelife]

Yeah not his fault. BS guy he played like crap and if you choose to defend that that is on you. Hell lets pay coaches more money since they are held to accountability while players get the free ride can play like **** and be excused for it. He was not getting double team that much and even vs backup OL players still was not getting it done

All I'm doing is analyzing reasons his play slipped instead of just whining. I'm not arguing he was disappointing. I'm the kind of person who likes to solve problems, not just cry about them. So, my first instinct is to go back and look at what some reasons for his decline in play might be. They're not excuses. I don't have anything invested in him, I don't need to make excuses. Yeah, he needs to make more splash plays. Also, yeah, he could have been put in better positions to. You know, just like a revamped offense put those guys in better positions to make plays. I'm trying to actually be constructive instead of using this place as a springboard for pissing and moaning.

 

[Doomsday101]

All I'm doing is analyzing reasons his play slipped instead of just whining. I'm not arguing he was disappointing. I'm the kind of person who likes to solve problems, not just cry about them. So, my first instinct is to go back and look at what some reasons for his decline in play might be. They're not excuses. I don't have anything invested in him, I don't need to make excuses.

and all I'm saying he needs to get his *** in gear, not going to scape goat coaches for his play. He played like crap and deserves to be called out. Hell if I expected nothing out of him I would not have said anything yet he was paid as the highest paid DE in the NFL and did not come close in production and that is on him.

 

[Ranched]

Can't stand when professional athletes blame fans when their teams perform poorly. Do you really expect fans to be excited for an underachieving player/team? Get out of here! Play better and the fans will be quiet. Lawrence snubbed a little boys request for an autograph. That shows your personality Dlaw.

 

[Chuck 54]

I don’t blame Lawrence for Jerry paying a left DE like a RDE. Lawrence is arguably as good as any LDE in the league. The RDE traditionally rushes the passer all out and sometimes gives up too much run room, ala Ware and Quinn. LDE is the strong run side and must play the run first. With Gregory out all the time and Quinn just joining the team, DLaw was our best pass rusher over all, despite playing LDE, but that is not how it should be. DLaw wasn’t a sack master, but he still led the team or was close to it in QB pressures, knockdowns, and tackles for loss. He was chipped by TEs and RBs on his way to the QB because of the side he played on.

 

[texbumthelife]

and all I'm saying he needs to get his *** in gear, not going to scape goat coaches for his play. He played like crap and deserves to be called out. Hell if I expected nothing out of him I would not have said anything yet he was paid as the highest paid DE in the NFL and did not come close in production and that is on him.

Yeah, but what does simply complaining about him and breaking it down to its most base form serve? I'm disappointed too, so I'm actually analyzing. That's not making excuses, it's attempting to find out, outside off "oh he just got paid and suddenly doesn't care anymore" weak excuse.

 

[texbumthelife]

I don’t blame Lawrence for Jerry paying a left DE like a RDE. Lawrence is arguably as good as any LDE in the league. The RDE traditionally rushes the passer all out and sometimes gives up too much run room, ala Ware and Quinn. LDE is the strong run side and must play the run first. With Gregory out all the time and Quinn just joining the team, DLaw was our best pass rusher over all, despite playing LDE, but that is not how it should be. DLaw wasn’t a sack master, but he still led the team or was close to it in QB pressures, knockdowns, and tackles for loss. He was chipped by TEs and RBs on his way to the QB because of the side he played on.

How dare you talk football. This forum is for complaining only.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

Quinn was a beast for a lot cheaper .

 

[texbumthelife]

Can't stand when professional athletes blame fans when their teams perform poorly. Do you really expect fans to be excited for an underachieving player/team? Get out of here! Play better and the fans will be quiet. Lawrence snubbed a little boys request for an autograph. That shows your personality Dlaw.

What? When has an athlete EVER blamed fans for their poor play?

 

[quickccc]

It's not an excuse. I don't need to make excuses. I didn't pay/play/coach the guy. It's an observation.

How many snaps, exactly, did Marinelli move him inside? A handful? Just moving a guy to move him isn't necessarily the best option. It may be the quickest path, but it's certainly not the easiest. As I said, I'd like to see him get more reps on the weak side, like he did his first few years in the league.

Everyone on the defense had a down year. Literally everyone. Not just Lawrence. To me, thats indicative of other, greater issues. Again, not an excuse, an observation. His play was disappointing but it wasn't all his fault.

I'm excited to see what he does with Nolan and Tomsula. But sure, let's just keep spewing the piss and vinegar and vitriol cause that's more fun...

- of course he's gonna give him just a handful of snaps inside, the guy is not a full time DT. you want to move him inside to gain a quicker path to the QB.
And that changed once Michael Bennett arrived and took over that nickel pass rush role.

- and if we are moving him to the weak side as you suggest, that's more likely a more difficult disadvantage for DLaw as he has to take on the opponent's
best edge pass blocking OLineman at the LT spot.
Marinelli actually did that with moving him to right DE side, and he proved far more ineffective there than vs his usual left DE side and inside nickel.

 

[Corso]

All I'm doing is analyzing reasons his play slipped instead of just whining. I'm not arguing he was disappointing. I'm the kind of person who likes to solve problems, not just cry about them. So, my first instinct is to go back and look at what some reasons for his decline in play might be. They're not excuses. I don't have anything invested in him, I don't need to make excuses. Yeah, he needs to make more splash plays. Also, yeah, he could have been put in better positions to. You know, just like a revamped offense put those guys in better positions to make plays. I'm trying to actually be constructive instead of using this place as a springboard for pissing and moaning.

I've been enjoying your posts.

 

[quickccc]

How is it ridiculous? He's the #1 paid defensive player in the entire NFL. We set a new market for DE's by signing him to that enormous contract.

I can name at least 20 better defensive ends than him. Total reach of a contract. Keep making excuses. DWare was never a top 5 contract like DLaw.

I believe you still have players like Aaron Donald (highest paid) and Khali Mack who are still making more than DLaw

 

[CouchCoach]

While he is my least liked player on the team because of his stupid nickname and calling fans out, I do not see one player on that defense that I thought earned his pay, except maybe the guy that took a pay cut and showed most of the frustration on the sideline. Sean Lee didn't smile a lot last season and I saw him barking at players and coaches. I do not fault Lawrence for his contract, they all strike while the iron is hot and the agents know the Joneses will blink first.

Lawrence, along with Smith and some others, caught that disease, Superstar. Is he really that out of touch that he'd come up with that pathetic nickname that sounded more like padded gay jeans? That DL was and is mediocre and will be again, regardless of the coaching change, without an upgrade of personnel.

I do not think Lawrence is worth that contract but he sure as hell won't be if they don't get him some inside help. He benefitted only slightly with the best FA acquisition of Quinn because the Cowboys do not have, and haven't had, a DT that draws the doubles.

Lawrence has been pretty quiet since the Big Mike signing and I think he's going to find it a little different on this team with the coaches he's bringing in. Garrett allowed Booger to set the tone and I do not see that happening for two reasons. One, Booger will not feel the need and two, he's not the type HC you interfere with unless you want to nullify the reason he was hired in the first place. If I am Lawrence and some of the others, I'd pay close attention to that barking match with his superstar QB on the sideline. I don't think he's become kinder and gentler since that QB did him in.

 

[Captain-Crash]

dang, I hope mike lets them dress up like pimps. we need more underachievers wearing fur.

 

[Doomsday101]

I believe you still have players like Aaron Donald (highest paid) and Khali Mack who are still making more than DLaw

Donald is Highest paid DT and yes more than DLaw and is constantly getting doubled, Mack OLB is paid more and DLaw at DE highest paid DE. Difference is they continue to be impact players despite offensive Coordinators forced to game plan them.

 

[TheHerd]

That's right but Lawrence is the leader.

Never correct me in front of the guys again.

 

[quickccc]

While he is my least liked player on the team because of his stupid nickname and calling fans out, I do not see one player on that defense that I thought earned his pay, except maybe the guy that took a pay cut and showed most of the frustration on the sideline. Sean Lee didn't smile a lot last season and I saw him barking at players and coaches. I do not fault Lawrence for his contract, they all strike while the iron is hot and the agents know the Joneses will blink first.

Lawrence, along with Smith and some others, caught that disease, Superstar. Is he really that out of touch that he'd come up with that pathetic nickname that sounded more like padded gay jeans? That DL was and is mediocre and will be again, regardless of the coaching change, without an upgrade of personnel.

I do not think Lawrence is worth that contract but he sure as hell won't be if they don't get him some inside help. He benefitted only slightly with the best FA acquisition of Quinn because the Cowboys do not have, and haven't had, a DT that draws the doubles.

Lawrence has been pretty quiet since the Big Mike signing and I think he's going to find it a little different on this team with the coaches he's bringing in. Garrett allowed Booger to set the tone and I do not see that happening for two reasons. One, Booger will not feel the need and two, he's not the type HC you interfere with unless you want to nullify the reason he was hired in the first place. If I am Lawrence and some of the others, I'd pay close attention to that barking match with his superstar QB on the sideline. I don't think he's become kinder and gentler since that QB did him in.

Dlaw hasn't had help inside from the DT role for years - even when he collected his 2 best years here with 14 and 11 sacks respectively.
And he plays on the edge and going one on one most times,. so not getting help inside doesn't/shouldn't affect what he needs to do on the outside.

He flat out just has to hold his own and take matters into his own hands. He was re-signed to a handsome contract to be that impact " War Daddy" we need - especially down the stretch and
critical crunch time of key games. and still to this day, he still flat out disappears down the stretch run for whatever reason.

the only help he gets is what Quinn putting up and delivered the double digit sack totals (11 sacks) on the other side for the entire DL pass rush ..period.
something that we simply were not getting from Dlaw.

And I dunno if Quinn will even be re-signed as a 3-4 OLB here with the way he struggled in that role in Miami.