Who is the best option at QB?

[Captain-Crash]

how do you know he had no problem with it? I didn't like it.

 

[leeblair]

If Russell Wilson was available, no one here would say they didn't want him.
Case Keenum IS available, and has shown himself to be far more capable of leading a team and making a difference when he has to make a play than Dak.
It is absurd that Dak's fans would deny that Keenum has played better. He went to Denver- who were in disarray and changing coaches- then went through the same mess in Washington.
But I would be willing to bet that Minnesota would tell you that the year they lost getting Cousins up to speed wasn't worth letting Keenum go.
Case Keenum is a better quarterback than Dak.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I want Dak signed long term, but if that can’t happen for whatever reason, I let him walk. There is no way I would ever slap the franchise tag on him.

That QB tag, with ever dollar owed immediately and counting against the cap, will hurt signing our FA’s and any others. It would definitely set our new coach back from having better personnel.

It’s also a dangerous road that seldom works with QBs and would either lead to an even more ridiculous contract or to his leaving in another year or two anyway.

Actually, the tag number would be cheaper for the team, annually, then would likely be the new contract number. There would be no signing bonus or additional bonus structure money so it would just be the base salary. If the choice is 35+ or leave, the team has to decide if that works long term but I'm for doing what's right for the years to come, not just for this next year or so because I don't see us winning a championship in the next year. I believe we can find another QB if we have to. I don't love the idea of having to allow a player like Dak to walk but honestly, I don't ever see that happening. I don't believe anybody is going to offer him a better deal then we will and I don't believe that Dak is stupid. I believe that if he sits, in the end, he only hurts himself. Dak, IMO, is not Zeke. I don't see Dak sitting out 4 games and coming back and being on fire. I see him struggling for several games, if not an entire season if he doesn't practice with the team and then, what does that do for him and his value? It screws us for sure but honestly, I'd rather suffer through a bad season then be locked into a terrible contractual situation in which we are handcuffed around the cap at QB.

JMO

 

[PAPPYDOG]

What’s his record for his career?


And don’t compliment me. It makes me wonder if I’m doing something wrong.

Say THANK YOU # 21 and move on now Mr.Prescott.....

P.S. Guess that's why #21 got his mega-deal eh?

 

[sean10mm]

If Russell Wilson was available, no one here would say they didn't want him.
Case Keenum IS available, and has shown himself to be far more capable of leading a team and making a difference when he has to make a play than Dak.
It is absurd that Dak's fans would deny that Keenum has played better. He went to Denver- who were in disarray and changing coaches- then went through the same mess in Washington.
But I would be willing to bet that Minnesota would tell you that the year they lost getting Cousins up to speed wasn't worth letting Keenum go.
Case Keenum is a better quarterback than Dak.

Not sure how Case Keenum having a 1-1 playoff record at almost 32 years old - where he threw more picks than touchdowns! - makes him any better than Dak in terms of results? I'm just judging him by how the people who complain about Dak judge him.

And that's his BEST season. Overall he was dismal both before AND after that one season. He's 27-35 over his career, so he's in no sense a "winner" despite his stats over his career. Which are also bad.

 

[America's Cowboy]

A deep dive into Prescott’s first 50 starts reveals some staggering results. According to Pro Football Reference, nearly 200 quarterbacks have made at least 50 starts in the modern era of the NFL (post 1950). Prescott’s 26 interceptions are the fewest of any quarterback during their first 50 starts.

Is that number skewed by limited throws? Nope. Prescott also owns the best interception rate (1 per 59.1 passes) in NFL history for a quarterback’s first 50 starts.

Prescott’s 2.8 TD/INT ratio ranks second to Aaron Rodgers (2.9).

Doesn’t throw the ball downfield? Nah. Prescott’s 7.72 adjusted yards per attempt ranks seventh in first 50 history, one spot behind Dan Marino (7.84) and ahead of Ben Roethlisberger (7.67), Peyton Manning (6.88) and a slew of Hall of Famers.


https://www.shreveporttimes.com/sto...historic-numbers-early-his-career/2374370001/

BOOM!!!

 

[Kwyn]

I need to know the salaries of each..

Clearly there are better QB's on that list then Dak and there are QB's who can produce at a similar level.

Here is a short list of names to help the discussion, along with their projected market value according spotrac.

• Brees - 36.5
• Brady - 33.7
• Rivers - 27.5
• Bridgewater - 20.0
• Winston - 26.7
• Tannehil - 30.5
• Dak - 33.0

Others

• Mariota
• Daniel
• Keenum
• Henne
• Stanton
• McCoy

Draft available QB’s (using Jimmy J’s draft value chart to show what it would take to get them)

• Burrow - #17 overall, 2 future firsts, a number 2 or 3 - probably a 4th or 5th
• Tua - #17, 2 future firsts
• Hebert - #27, 2 future firsts
• Fromm - #17
• Eason - #17

 

[Typhus]

Get rid of the HC and we will win and now get rid of the QB and we will win. lol People can play their games all they want but at the end of the day Dak is the QB.

This is so very true, and props to the OP for the perspective.
So Ive stated my issues I have with making Dak one of the top payed QBs in this league, but that is totally irrelevant and it doesn't matter how much the fan base has an issue with Dak getting payed, Im at least honest, and know that Dak is not going anywhere, he will be this teams franchise QB......
But... I still invest a dart, doesn't have to be a top pick in the draft, but I still invest a draft pic that can at the very least beat out Cooper Rush.

 

[Kwyn]

Did not get that far on the salaries.

If you find out..please add in the thread.

Thanx.

Also..anybody that might be traded for with a future draft pick add them.

If this drags out past the draft into TC..

any of these names might become more viable.

see my post just above this

 

[Kwyn]

Whats the cost for each?

That is a huge factor. Money matters. If you can get one of these guys at less than 10 a year you have a chance to build around them while not solely depending on them.

See above

 

[America's Cowboy]

If Russell Wilson was available, no one here would say they didn't want him.
Case Keenum IS available, and has shown himself to be far more capable of leading a team and making a difference when he has to make a play than Dak.
It is absurd that Dak's fans would deny that Keenum has played better. He went to Denver- who were in disarray and changing coaches- then went through the same mess in Washington.
But I would be willing to bet that Minnesota would tell you that the year they lost getting Cousins up to speed wasn't worth letting Keenum go.
Case Keenum is a better quarterback than Dak.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Not sure how Case Keenum having a 1-1 playoff record at almost 32 years old - where he threw more picks than touchdowns! - makes him any better than Dak in terms of results? I'm just judging him by how the people who complain about Dak judge him.

And that's his BEST season. Overall he was dismal both before AND after that one season. He's 27-25 over his career, so he's in no sense a "winner" despite his stats over his career. Which are also bad.

Our offense is so talent heavy I could go 8-8....

 

[Kwyn]

Brees may actually like Dallas not much of a move from LA, Brady is looking for a perfect fit and Dallas most likely not it..in the end TB12 most likely stays in NE..

Brees will never leave NO. After Katrina, he and that city are married until death. He’s a God there. Not to mention that he has a great coach with whom he has a great relationship

 

[Captain-Crash]

Our offense is so talent heavy I could go 8-8....

Tebow could too, and he's a winner.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Funny how y'all had no problem when Jerry made Romo the highest paid league QB back in 2012.

You know what's funny here? It's the fact that you don't know what you are talking about and yet, you sit here and post like you got business saying anything about that? That's what's funny here.

Don't waste my time. You don't know what you are talking about here.

 

[Kwyn]

Why does it gotta be this way. If you can't sign the guy for the price the team can afford, why then does it have to be Dak and why then is anybody who is in favor of finding the best possible option a hater or troll? I mean, how does that make any sense at all?

Share your plan and I imagine people would respond favorably to you putting forth the effort t

 

[Doomsday101]

This is so very true, and props to the OP for the perspective.
So Ive stated my issues I have with making Dak one of the top payed QBs in this league, but that is totally irrelevant and it doesn't matter how much the fan base has an issue with Dak getting payed, Im at least honest, and know that Dak is not going anywhere, he will be this teams franchise QB......
But... I still invest a dart, doesn't have to be a top pick in the draft, but I still invest a draft pic that can at the very least beat out Cooper Rush.

Dallas may look at late draft pick at QB or given there are so many vet FA QB on the market they may find a vet backup.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Say THANK YOU # 21 and move on now Mr.Prescott.....

P.S. Guess that's why #21 got his mega-deal eh?

I don't know about this. Time will tell but honestly, I was not in favor of signing him long term for big Dollars either. Now, I do like the way his contract is structured for the team but if I'm honest, with the scheme change, I'm not sure his contract is going to be worth it. JMO

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Share your plan and I imagine people would respond favorably to you putting forth the effort t

My plan for what specifically? Chances are, I've probably already done that several times on this board but I'm happy to reiterate that, if you can be a little more specific. TY

 

[Kwyn]

Its hard without knowing what your going to pay these QBs but lets assume Dak gets 33 mil. Thats just too much to pay for avg.
1. I truly believe you could go get keenum and tell him he will be back up and then make him the starter for 7 mil a year.
2. Winston sure makes a lot of mistakes but at least he goes for it instead of holding onto the ball too long. He doesnt get shut down against good teams either. He clearly throws the football better and with the Cowboys top 10 defense he would be an upgrade if you could just cut back on mistakes. I think Winston could be had for 25 mil.
3. Brees, Brady and Rivers are all about done and doubt they would want to come to Dallas.
4. Tannehill is better than Dak but he is gonna want the same money as Dak. Thats just too much for an avg QB.
5.Mariotta is not as good as Dak and is gonna want probably 18 mil I wouldnt want him.
6. Rush is garbage and wouldnt even be 3rd QB on most teams in the league.

I would consider calling the 49rs and make a trade for NIck Mullens.

This is mostly ridiculous but my favorite part is how the Cowboys somehow lie and trick Keenum into signing for less than half of his market value and then pulling back the curtain and proclaim “GOTCHA! YOU’RE THE STARTING QB AND WE ROBBED YOU ON THE CONTRACT!!! TAKE THAT SUCKER (and here’s your playbook)