Did you guys know Romo though 09-16 won 15 games?

TheMarathonContinues

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Prefer not to assume, looked like you had access to these no problem . thanks
I edited after I reread your answer
Not at all. I'm the messenger not the creator. If someone posts what he did from 2007-2009 I'll post them or if I can find them. I think people chose 2009-2016 because that's the prime of his career.

Either way.....the story isn't how bad or good he was. The story is his team wasn't good enough and he failed. The same narrative should be Dak's narrative but it isn't. So how good or bad he did earlier in his career is moot.
 

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The point that’s being missed here due to a Type-O is that both Romo and Dak have struggled to beat teams with winning records.

Is it because of Garrett’s scheme? Poor defense? Poor specials teams? Bad coaching? Or all of the above?

Hopefully Mike is the cure, time will tell...
This is all the point is. People accusing me of trolling........they have agenda. Its why I haven't even replied to any of those idiots. They see Romo's name and go into defense mode. The point went over their heads.

I got it from a conversation I had with carrot in the summer of 2010
Oh that's your problem there. Your source was terrible.



Of course.

However, the proof is in the puddin'. Basically, McC has been given what looks like complete freedom to form his own staff. The ONLY holdover is Moore(as far as I know). Moore proved last season that he is an incredible football mind. Yes, he made some mistakes, and has a ways to go as an OC(Shouldn't have been promoted yet), but at the same time he also showed flashes of brilliance.

Put yourself in McC's shoes. A brilliant kid who only needs two things, seasoning and some help from an experience O guy. Why in the world wouldn't you keep him? I guarantee, if McC was asked to keep Mo, it was not a hard sell at all.

(On a side note, what in hades does "the proof is in the puddin" even mean?!!!!!)

Garrett also had complete control of his staff. Hell you can argue he had even more control than McCarthy has.

Well this is my argument. We know McCarthy likes to call his own plays and he likes to live and die by his own play calling. So to see him inherit Moore......maybe the reason is because he's a "brilliant kid" like you stated. But we can't pretend like Jerry doesn't love him. And when Jerry loves someone.....you have to think that his addition is for a reason. But we will see. If we see McCarthy taking the play calling back then we will know exactly why Moore was brought in.

Not the same.

Moore, although shamelessly fast-tracked, was a promotion from within.

Garrett was hired off Miami’s staff.

Also...never heard any HC-I-W anointing of Moore.

Its not exactly the same but there are definitely some parallels to Moore and Garrett. Both career backups. Both got a position they probably didn't deserve. Both had some success their first years. Both loved by Jerry Jones.


You do know that line never played together?

Did I say they played together? Those were the linemen they invested in and the actual good ones I listed. Did you want me to list Nate Livings and Mackenzie Bernadeau too?

Can we stop with the petty crap already? If I wanted to deal with this kind of stupid bickering and reliving past miseries, I'd still be married.
Petty crap? What's petty? Anytime you bring up Romo and not about putting him in the Hall of Fame its "petty crap"......

Its a discussion forum. Either you can discuss or not.
 

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Against winning teams?

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Does this mean anything?
Yes, it means they were 8-8 almost every year
 

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Xactly. This thread should be filed under History
Like I said above......Romosexauls won't get the intent of this thread. They want it filed under history because they don't want to continue to lie to you and change the narrative of Romo's tenure. Barry Sanders has the argument he never had a good team around him. Romo does not have that excuse. Romo's excuses should rival what Dak's excuses are. But it doesn't.
 

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By the looks of the list......seems like maybe Romo wasted some of Garrett's years too.
I ask this because Dak gets the credit for this teams lack of wins against playoff teams this year. But Dak had the same head coach as Garrett......yet....its Dak's fault?



Romo wasted some of Garrett’s years? Do you remember the 2015 season without Romo? What did Garrett do? Romo kept Garrett employed way too long by saving his but most of the time. They would have been a 4 or 5 win team without Romo through those years with Garrett at the helm.
 

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Some of you are missing the OP’s point.

The mouth-breathing idiots who hate Dak have been talking about his “record vs winning teams” ad nauseum this offseason. They also say Romo was a beast and Dak isn’t anywhere near his level.

“Record vs winning teams” is their latest piece of
evidence that Dak’s mediocre and not worth a big payday.

So the OP basically just took a 2x4 and slammed it upside their stupid skulls. I love it.
:lmao2:
 

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This is all the point is. People accusing me of trolling........they have agenda. Its why I haven't even replied to any of those idiots. They see Romo's name and go into defense mode. The point went over their heads.


Oh that's your problem there. Your source was terrible.





Garrett also had complete control of his staff. Hell you can argue he had even more control than McCarthy has.

Well this is my argument. We know McCarthy likes to call his own plays and he likes to live and die by his own play calling. So to see him inherit Moore......maybe the reason is because he's a "brilliant kid" like you stated. But we can't pretend like Jerry doesn't love him. And when Jerry loves someone.....you have to think that his addition is for a reason. But we will see. If we see McCarthy taking the play calling back then we will know exactly why Moore was brought in.



Its not exactly the same but there are definitely some parallels to Moore and Garrett. Both career backups. Both got a position they probably didn't deserve. Both had some success their first years. Both loved by Jerry Jones.




Did I say they played together? Those were the linemen they invested in and the actual good ones I listed. Did you want me to list Nate Livings and Mackenzie Bernadeau too?


Petty crap? What's petty? Anytime you bring up Romo and not about putting him in the Hall of Fame its "petty crap"......

Its a discussion forum. Either you can discuss or not.
What's petty is the reason for posting it. I also find it petty when people start threads to show what Romo did better than Dak. How about we judge Dak on his own merits, good and bad?
 

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Some of you are missing the OP’s point.

The mouth-breathing idiots who hate Dak have been talking about his “record vs winning teams” ad nauseum this offseason. They also say Romo was a beast and Dak isn’t anywhere near his level.

“Record vs winning teams” is their latest piece of
evidence that Dak’s mediocre and not worth a big payday.

So the OP basically just took a 2x4 and slammed it upside their stupid skulls. I love it.
:lmao2:
No, he didn't. Anyone with a brain knows you can't compare 2 QBs who had completely different teams, and played against completely different teams, with different rules, different coaches, etc.
 

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This is unarguably the best offensive cast of players around a Quarterback since 1995. Trying to compare Romos offensive team to Dakotas reeks of desperation.......and the OP is better than this
Hahaahahhahahah

3 Pro Bowl OL, Terrell Owens, Terry Glenn, Witten in his prime, Marion Barber in his prime, Felix Jones spelling Barber.

Hhahhahahahahahahaa
 

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Some of you are missing the OP’s point.

The mouth-breathing idiots who hate Dak have been talking about his “record vs winning teams” ad nauseum this offseason. They also say Romo was a beast and Dak isn’t anywhere near his level.

“Record vs winning teams” is their latest piece of
evidence that Dak’s mediocre and not worth a big payday.

So the OP basically just took a 2x4 and slammed it upside their stupid skulls. I love it.
:lmao2:

No, people are criticizing that Dak can't beat winning teams despite having talent surrounding him. Romo had 3 different HCs during his time, a bad O-line for most of his career, and revolving door of WRs and Jason Witten. Also had to play alongside the worst defense in franchise history at one point.
 

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Hahaahahhahahah

3 Pro Bowl OL, Terrell Owens, Terry Glenn, Witten in his prime, Marion Barber in his prime, Felix Jones spelling Barber.

Hhahhahahahahahahaa

Romo got to the playoffs every year he had talent alongside him on both sides of the ball. 2006, 2007, 2009, and 2014. 2008 team was injury riddled, and the team from 2010 to 2013 was essentially rebuilding.
 

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Romo wasted some of Garrett’s years? Do you remember the 2015 season without Romo? What did Garrett do? Romo kept Garrett employed way too long by saving his but most of the time. They would have been a 4 or 5 win team without Romo through those years with Garrett at the helm.

What did he do in 2016 when he lost Romo once again for the season?
 

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No, he didn't. Anyone with a brain knows you can't compare 2 QBs who had completely different teams, and played against completely different teams, with different rules, different coaches, etc.
It’s not about comparing QBs.

It’s about the idiotic logic of using “record vs winning teams” as a basis for judging QBs.

The OP just destroyed that nonsense.

If you rip Dak for his record vs winning teams, you’d have to do the same for Romo.

The stupid Dak haters are on tilt now, trying their best to change the subject or move the goalposts.
:laugh:
 
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