Did you guys know Romo though 09-16 won 15 games?

TheMarathonContinues

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Some of you are missing the OP’s point.

The mouth-breathing idiots who hate Dak have been talking about his “record vs winning teams” ad nauseum this offseason. They also say Romo was a beast and Dak isn’t anywhere near his level.

“Record vs winning teams” is their latest piece of
evidence that Dak’s mediocre and not worth a big payday.

So the OP basically just took a 2x4 and slammed it upside their stupid skulls. I love it.
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Thank you lol. They're so quick to defend Romo they missed the point of the thread. Its laughable lol.

What's petty is the reason for posting it. I also find it petty when people start threads to show what Romo did better than Dak. How about we judge Dak on his own merits, good and bad?

So its petty to post Romo's team record against winning teams?

This isn't a Dak vs Romo thread. Hell I didn't even mention Dak becauseI didn't even think I had to. The point of the thread was to get the Romosexuals to understand how Dak and Romo aren't different. They both suffered under this coaching staff. This playbook. Lack of turnovers from the defense(Romo at least had some teams that could do it). Lack of emphasis on special teams.

People can come to this conclusion on Romo but they can't on Dak because of their bias. That's what this thread was about. There was no "pettiness" involved. If I wanted to be petty I could do what a lot of fans on this site do when it comes to Dak. You know? Regurgitate the same mindless and outdated narratives on Dak? If I wanted to be petty I would've brought up Dak's lack of playoff success or his end of the game boneheaded plays. But that's not what this was about.
 

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It’s not about comparing QBs.

It’s about the idiotic logic of using “record vs winning teams” as a basis for judging QBs.

The OP just destroyed that nonsense.

If you rip Dak for his record vs winning teams, you’d have to do the same for Romo.

The stupid Dak haters are on tilt now, trying their best to change the subject or move the goalposts.
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Thank you. But you're petty if you bring it up about Romo lol. I can't with some of these people man lol.......
 

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It’s not about comparing QBs.

It’s about the idiotic logic of using “record vs winning teams” as a basis for judging QBs.

The OP just destroyed that nonsense.

If you rip Dak for his record vs winning teams, you’d have to do the same for Romo.

The stupid Dak haters are on tilt now, trying their best to change the subject or move the goalposts.
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I see what you're saying, but the fact remains that if we can't beat winning teams, we won't get very far. Obviously it's not all on Dak. The defense, ST, coaching, and even his receivers had a big hand in the losses. That said, there's still room for improvement on his part, and hopefully Big Mac and his crew can get it figured out.
 

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No, people are criticizing that Dak can't beat winning teams despite having talent surrounding him. Romo had 3 different HCs during his time, a bad O-line for most of his career, and revolving door of WRs and Jason Witten. Also had to play alongside the worst defense in franchise history at one point.
Way to move the goalposts!

Dak had Jason Garrett as his coach, a garbage defense that couldn’t force turnovers and maybe the worst special teams in the league.

DURRRR WHY CAN’T HE BEAT ALL DA WINNIN’ TEAMS!?!?!?
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The OP absolutely thrashed the Dak-hating CLOWNS. So much for the “record vs winning teams” garbage!
 

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Like I said above......Romosexauls won't get the intent of this thread. They want it filed under history because they don't want to continue to lie to you and change the narrative of Romo's tenure. Barry Sanders has the argument he never had a good team around him. Romo does not have that excuse. Romo's excuses should rival what Dak's excuses are. But it doesn't.
Not that I care too much cause he’s gone but so many fans don’t give our current qb the same latitude they did with the past one

this one throws an off target pass it’s he sucks the last one did it’s an excuse receiver lost it in the lights or or he quit running otherwise it would have been a TD

he has no D or no line or he would have been in SB or he has to carry the team

there’s no denying that jerry could have done a better job building a consistent team around him but he had shots at it but the TEAM failed

it’s a tremendous double standard . That being said Dak has more improving to do but we can with him regardless of his cost

I don’t dwell on what they pay him (33 would be ok with me)they already overpaid zeke and DLaw and Jaylon.

fans exaggerate how much previous qbs role played in things just like they do current one. Nothing’s changed but the jersey #
 

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Thank you lol. They're so quick to defend Romo they missed the point of the thread. Its laughable lol.



So its petty to post Romo's team record against winning teams?

This isn't a Dak vs Romo thread. Hell I didn't even mention Dak becauseI didn't even think I had to. The point of the thread was to get the Romosexuals to understand how Dak and Romo aren't different. They both suffered under this coaching staff. This playbook. Lack of turnovers from the defense(Romo at least had some teams that could do it). Lack of emphasis on special teams.

People can come to this conclusion on Romo but they can't on Dak because of their bias. That's what this thread was about. There was no "pettiness" involved. If I wanted to be petty I could do what a lot of fans on this site do when it comes to Dak. You know? Regurgitate the same mindless and outdated narratives on Dak? If I wanted to be petty I would've brought up Dak's lack of playoff success or his end of the game boneheaded plays. But that's not what this was about.
I'll concede that it's possible I was wrong about your intent, but that's not the way you presented it.

I'm tired of the vitriol from both sides of this Romo vs. Dak argument. If people wanna debate the merits of both players, that's fine. But why can't they do it with civility, and appreciate that both players have their good and bad points?
 

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didn't romo have the most games lost for active qbs during that time when his defense was on the field last? I could very well be wrong, but I distinctly remember a stat like that being tossed around.

How many games have we lost on the final drive with our defense on the field under Dak?

Dak's taking 60 sacks with a top oline, Romo was doing much better with one of the worst olines in nfl history. Guarantee Dak would've broke the record for most single season sacks with the same oline as Romo in 2011 I believe.

When has Dak ever gone a year without a top oline, rb, and a solid group of receivers?
 

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Not that I care too much cause he’s gone but so many fans don’t give our current qb the same latitude they did with the past one

this one throws an off target pass it’s he sucks the last one did it’s an excuse receiver lost it in the lights or or he quit running otherwise it would have been a TD

he has no D or no line or he would have been in SB or he has to carry the team

there’s no denying that jerry could have done a better job building a consistent team around him but he had shots at it but the TEAM failed

it’s a tremendous double standard . That being said Dak has more improving to do but we can with him regardless of his cost

I don’t dwell on what they pay him (33 would be ok with me)they already overpaid zeke and DLaw and Jaylon.

fans exaggerate how much previous qbs role played in things just like they do current one. Nothing’s changed but the jersey #
Romo got no latitude when he played. Mostly caught hate. Just the nature of numnut fans.
 

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Teams beat other teams. Good teams beat other good teams. You build good teams with the proper cap management, good strong front office, strong coaching, strong personnel people together with wise FA decision and strong drafts.

Bad cap management, poor drafts, personnel moves, weak coaching and bad decisions from the front office severely weaken your chances of beating winning teams. That's what we saw with Garrett and Romo.

The contract we gave Romo didn't help things but there were a lot of other reasons as well. Many of those other reasons were driven by a lack of flexibility with the cap IMO.
 

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How did you come to that conclusion? That team was not good enough to win a Super Bowl.

The next season they went 13-3 with a bye into the playoffs. They had a sound team. A super bowl was more than just a dream.
 

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I'll concede that it's possible I was wrong about your intent, but that's not the way you presented it.

I'm tired of the vitriol from both sides of this Romo vs. Dak argument. If people wanna debate the merits of both players, that's fine. But why can't they do it with civility, and appreciate that both players have their good and bad points?
You weren’t wrong about his intent. A weird Dak slobbering troll posted a Googled, biased and incorrect picture of stats and put a trolling title on it to boot. He got exactly the response he was looking for... and since he’s long been considered a laughingstock, he didn’t really do any damage to his reputation. It worked out perfectly for him.
 

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I'll concede that it's possible I was wrong about your intent, but that's not the way you presented it.

I'm tired of the vitriol from both sides of this Romo vs. Dak argument. If people wanna debate the merits of both players, that's fine. But why can't they do it with civility, and appreciate that both players have their good and bad points?
Because this is Cowboyszone lol. This place is full of trolls and people with intent to do nothing but disrupt. And when I say trolls......I'm not just talking about people who don't like Dak. Like there are guys here who troll by pretending to be Dak fans. Its just what it is unfortunately.

Not that I care too much cause he’s gone but so many fans don’t give our current qb the same latitude they did with the past one

this one throws an off target pass it’s he sucks the last one did it’s an excuse receiver lost it in the lights or or he quit running otherwise it would have been a TD

he has no D or no line or he would have been in SB or he has to carry the team

there’s no denying that jerry could have done a better job building a consistent team around him but he had shots at it but the TEAM failed

it’s a tremendous double standard . That being said Dak has more improving to do but we can with him regardless of his cost

I don’t dwell on what they pay him (33 would be ok with me)they already overpaid zeke and DLaw and Jaylon.

fans exaggerate how much previous qbs role played in things just like they do current one. Nothing’s changed but the jersey #

Me and you see it virtually the same. Even if they gave Dak 33 million I'd be more concerned with what they gave Jaylon, Dlaw and to a lesser extent Zeke.

The same way I'm a Dak fan now I was a Romo fan. I was on this site defending him to the death because even at that time I could see what problems he had.

Romo just like Dak is victim of not being good enough to overcome piss poor coaching.

How can people not see this?
 

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Romo got no latitude when he played. Mostly caught hate. Just the nature of numnut fans.
While I admit the media and fans were hard on him . There was a boat load of fans that put him on a pedestal that he didn’t deserve

he got too much blame and too much credit for a guy who never got further than the current qb
 

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Teams beat other teams. Good teams beat other good teams. You build good teams with the proper cap management, good strong front office, strong coaching, strong personnel people together with wise FA decision and strong drafts.

Bad cap management, poor drafts, personnel moves, weak coaching and bad decisions from the front office severely weaken your chances of beating winning teams. That's what we saw with Garrett and Romo.

The contract we gave Romo didn't help things but there were a lot of other reasons as well. Many of those other reasons were driven by a lack of flexibility with the cap IMO.
Romo's contract did help. He renegotiated to help Jerry w/ the cap.
 

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While I admit the media and fans were hard on him . There was a boat load of fans that put him on a pedestal that he didn’t deserve

he got too much blame and too much credit for a guy who never got further than the current qb
Not all that many. Most of the over glorifying came after he retired.
 

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You weren’t wrong about his intent. A weird Dak slobbering troll posted a Googled, biased and incorrect picture of stats and put a trolling title on it to boot. He got exactly the response he was looking for... and since he’s long been considered a laughingstock, he didn’t really do any damage to his reputation. It worked out perfectly for him.

@Runwildboys

Now see this is a example of a troll. And if you want to see the rest of the trolls on this site? Just pay attention at who likes his post. Its the same 5 or 6 people lol. Just take notice. I've been on to his game and others. All you can do is laugh and keep it moving.
 

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Dak at a minimum salary is causing headaches for this team, regardless of whatever you think about him. Can't wait to see what happens when the same performance happens at 40 mil.
 
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