25 years, let it go

[kskboys]

We should be a monster team running in the red zone if we use Dak's ability to run and throw on the move.

And stop going jumbo with 3 TEs who can't block. I so hate that. We load up on our least effective players.

Holy Crapp, that's just incredibly stupid. I actually hadn' thought of it that way, but that is what we do. (Crying)

 

[kskboys]

Well said.

Thus far the evidence tells me Jerry didn’t want to do this which is concerning. My guess is he’ll be lurking waiting to insert himself. But you’re right , we don’t know yet. I see Moore as the attachment Jerry wasn’t willing to let go of but we’ll see.

I get why some fans are optimistic. It’s difficult for me. I felt that way with Bill and it didn’t end any better. It’s almost like some fans will feel better not reaching our goals as long as we have a better HC.

My hero is Troy for calling it out and the local media ponied up forcing this type of change. I’m still not sure anyone can overcome the toxic atmosphere and dysfunctional organization Jerry creates. We shall see.

But this off season for me will be celebrating Jimmys induction. That’s the greatest thing for my Cowboys fandom in 25 years.
Thanks for your comments K!

Absolutely!!!!!!

I haven't been able to find any reason for optimism since Wade took over. I watched Wade and Jerry slowly dismantle what the Tuna built, and haven't seen any signs before now that we might come out of it. Big might, of course, I'm well aware of that.

I'm more hopeful than optimistic.

 

[kskboys]

I am sorry Kwyn but if you think this is a new era you are dreaming. This is just another chapter in the Jerry Jones era. And as for the hot stove analogy it is not a case of touching a hot stove once. It is a case of touching the hot stove over and over and over multiple times each year for 25 straight years. I have learned from my mistakes and I have seen the light and it is a big bright blue star with Jerruhs smiling face in the middle.

Possibly. No need to polarize, however, nor is there any reason to knock others' optimism.

 

[shabazz]

Trust but verify.

доверяй, но проверяй........Ronaldus Magnus

 

[InTheZone]

I haven't been this excited since Romo took over. I expect a longer of changes for better on defense and special teams, something long overdue. I expect the realization from the coaches that Dak will be a major issue if we want to take another step forward.

 

[Doomsday101]

I'm a fan win, lose or tie I have no desire to forget anything because when they do break through once again and hold that Lombardi trophy I will only appreciate it even more.

 

[DogFace]

I know that, you know that but there are people who are so miserable that they live by being negative. It’s who they are. It’s in their soul. They can’t change They don’t want to change because it makes them happy by trying to make everyone around them miserable.

Damn. That’s so simple. I’m not sure why I’ve never thought of it that way. I’ve often wondered what it is with those people. That’s why I debate/argue with them.

Now I know. Thanks

 

[CouchCoach]

Excuse me but where did I reprimand anyone for feeling the way they do or say anyone that is cynical, skeptical or negative didn't have a right to be? I was not calling anyone out, I was calling out some signs to maybe get some out from under that 25 year cloud. I wonder how long the dark cloud is for CLE or DET?

If you don't see any signs that this might be turning in our favor, fine, I will however debate the signs that I see than do give me a brighter look for this season since Parcells came to town. The situation and motive were different, I don't think Booger cared if they won and truth be told, I think he was relieved when Parcells didn't succeed. This is different, he seems motivated to win and put his trust in a proven NFL HC. Can that change? Sure, but it's nice to see this team like all other teams for a change.

Do not insinuate that I am calling anyone out for how they feel. I am optimistic and positive, for a change, about these next two seasons and thought I might share that to see if I could get some to thinking about brightening their outlook. If they don't want to do that, s'ok by me but no one should call them out for feeling the way they do and stop trying to broad stroke posters as miserable negative people because they're not buying in yet. How they feel here is not connected to their real lives and it is rude to label them.

Since everyone here has given themselves permission for feel however they want to, how about we extend that to everyone else without the recriminations? And btw, if this turns south on me, I reserve to right to go all Cowboys curmudgeon again.

 

[CouchCoach]

It always amazes me how some fans just can’t enjoy their half full cup without bashing those with a half empty cup.

Lead your cheers all you want just leave the rest of us out of it. Otherwise we wouldn’t feel the need to defend ourselves.

But as usual some feel the need to discredit those who don’t share their views to uplift theirs. And what attracts the negative responses.

Coach- start your Silver Lining threads without calling out others attempting to divide fans further.

BS, I am not trying to divide anyone and didn't call anyone out. I didn't discredit anyone.

 

[CouchCoach]

until we make it to the superbowl, nothing matters and its business as usual. Parcells started out the same way. hired his own coaches. ran the show and in two years Jerry was at it again...doing his meddling thing...so lets see what jerry does in 2 years...if he starts to meddle. if he still gives interviews. if he comes down to the field to talk tot he coaches and players...if he still running the draft and trying to choose a johnny manziel type of player.....

no. nothing has changed as far as I am concerned.....until we actually see it. talk is cheap.

Past behavior predicting future behavior is a pretty safe bet and I am not saying for sure he's changed his thinking.

Posters have called Garrett a puppet, he was in training. His own GM often second guessed him to the media before he even had his own pc.

I see what has happened as a positive sign because he signed a NFL HC and then gave him carte blanche to assemble his own guys. Some tried to even rain on him wanting to keep Moore as acquiescing to Booger, not giving Moore any credit at all when all we hear and see form people who know him is how football bright he is and he did improve the QB and O.

As far as meddling, didn't Booger come down to the field when Johhson and Parcells were the HC's? He's not going to give up his media gig for anyone and I don't care about that as long as the players look to the HC and not him.

If nothing has changed to you, that's fine. And I could be wrong and this is just the quiet before the storm. And I admit it, I am looking for positive signs because if this keeps up, I am done as a fan because I miss my passion.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Adobe ruffian, you just won't be happy until you make me cry.

Not true! I want you to be happy about sending me your money!

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Past behavior predicting future behavior is a pretty safe bet and I am not saying for sure he's changed his thinking.

Posters have called Garrett a puppet, he was in training. His own GM often second guessed him to the media before he even had his own pc.

I see what has happened as a positive sign because he signed a NFL HC and then gave him carte blanche to assemble his own guys. Some tried to even rain on him wanting to keep Moore as acquiescing to Booger, not giving Moore any credit at all when all we hear and see form people who know him is how football bright he is and he did improve the QB and O.

As far as meddling, didn't Booger come down to the field when Johhson and Parcells were the HC's? He's not going to give up his media gig for anyone and I don't care about that as long as the players look to the HC and not him.

If nothing has changed to you, that's fine. And I could be wrong and this is just the quiet before the storm. And I admit it, I am looking for positive signs because if this keeps up, I am done as a fan because I miss my passion.

I hope he has changed. we can all just hope. but that's what Jerry does and he is really good at...Marketing....generating hope....and he has continuously done that coach after coach...even Garrett....he generates hope, talks big and then the craap hits the fan and he changes coaches...sometimes like he changes his underwear and sometimes he doesn't change his underwear fast enough..... parcells had cadre blanch too.....but we saw what happened. Jerry is now only more desparate…..the proof will be in the pudding.

 

[CouchCoach]

I hope he has changed. we can all just hope. but that's what Jerry does and he is really good at...Marketing....generating hope....and he has continuously done that coach after coach...even Garrett....he generates hope, talks big and then the craap hits the fan and he changes coaches...sometimes like he changes his underwear and sometimes he doesn't change his underwear fast enough..... parcells had cadre blanch too.....but we saw what happened. Jerry is now only more desparate…..the proof will be in the pudding.

Bold, that is why I am hopeful. I am thinking this Garrett situation was an awakening for Booger and that 25 years, that's his 25 years.

PIT and NE have 6 and SF could be the third to 6 this Sunday. This once proud franchise of football, not all the ancillary crap, is fading before his very eyes. SF has now been back twice since the Cowboys went and they look like they're building something.

I am hoping that he realizes he cannot will it to happen. The name Dallas Cowboys means nothing on the field, ratings, revenue, the glitzy glamour stuff, yes, but not on the field. They are just another team on the field, wearing historical laundry.

And something else just recently started happening that is really bothersome to him, they began pointing at him, not his HC in training. I do not for a minute underestimate the impact of what talking heads like Bradshaw and Aikman and a few others did to his ego and psyche this past season. I don't care what he said, that hurt and he thought he was off limits.

You are correct, the proof will be in the pudding but this isn't going to be that instant, just add milk, pudding. Because he ended this past season with that pudding all over his face.

 

[cern]

Its laughable to think Jerry’s made his last coaching decision as GM. But I understand fans need something to believe in.

Anytime during this entire process as the season was collapsing and all of the coaching questions Stephen was confronted he simply said, refer to Jerry.

Jerry does the talking. Stephen does the action. Easily discernible by the more astute.

 

[eromeopolk]

It's like some kind of a cross some drag around, a curse, the last 25 years of futility overshadows everything and becomes the response to optimism and positivity.

With not enough changes in coaching, I can buy the malaise that set in but this is almost an entirely new coaching staff and picked by the new HC.

There are signs of change already here with the GM, seemingly, granting this HC more room and that seemed to be the course he wanted by wanting only a NFL proven HC.

The NFL is a year to year thing, look at the Niners, they weren't picked to win their own division, let alone the conference.

There is nothing to carry forward. The players have a clean slate with the coaches and even if the guy you wanted didn't get picked, why pick on this guy? The man has proven he can coach and he had a year off to reflect and take a good hard look at what his part might have been in the breakdown in GB. A man out to prove something is a most serious man to watch,

Big Mike had no part of those past 25 years, except maybe to kick us out of the playoffs, so he comes in with no baggage.

Life is hard, me buckos, take happiness when it's available. Instead of expecting him to fail, expect him to succeed and let the performance be the proof. This team is more talented than 8-8, we know it and he knows it. Let's let this unfold and play out and maybe those 25 years just become a fading memory.

Who hired the green M&M stuck behind his couch pillow? Who fired Jimmy Johnson? Who passed on Randy Moss? Who hired Barry Switzer, Chan Gailey, Dave Campo and Jason Garrett? Who ran off Bill Parcells?

If the answer of Who is still the answer to who is the GM of the Dallas Cowboys, then why are you expecting anything different other than the last 25 years?

I am a Dallas Cowboys fan for what happened before 1995 (actually 1960-1994). I am not expecting Dallas to get different results doing the same thing for the last 25 years by the same person at the same GM position. I am sane.

The year before I was born, the Cowboys had their last losing season. I saw 6 Super Bowls with 13 NFL Championship game appearances, 20 wining season and 22 playoff appearances before I was 30 years old. When my oldest son was born the Cowboys had only had 5 losing seasons (1985-1990) but had won its 3rd Super Bowl (1992).

My oldest Son now has a son and he can only talk about a Super Bowl he saw when he was 4 years old. My youngest son who is 13 has not saw the Cowboys get a NFL Championship game appearance.

The memory is not fading for my sons. There is nothing to remember.

 

[cern]

Bold, that is why I am hopeful. I am thinking this Garrett situation was an awakening for Booger and that 25 years, that's his 25 years.

PIT and NE have 6 and SF could be the third to 6 this Sunday. This once proud franchise of football, not all the ancillary crap, is fading before his very eyes. SF has now been back twice since the Cowboys went and they look like they're building something.

I am hoping that he realizes he cannot will it to happen. The name Dallas Cowboys means nothing on the field, ratings, revenue, the glitzy glamour stuff, yes, but not on the field. They are just another team on the field, wearing historical laundry.

And something else just recently started happening that is really bothersome to him, they began pointing at him, not his HC in training. I do not for a minute underestimate the impact of what talking heads like Bradshaw and Aikman and a few others did to his ego and psyche this past season. I don't care what he said, that hurt and he thought he was off limits.

You are correct, the proof will be in the pudding but this isn't going to be that instant, just add milk, pudding. Because he ended this past season with that pudding all over his face.

Well said, coach. Seems he's counted his last pair of socks and jocks.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Bold, that is why I am hopeful. I am thinking this Garrett situation was an awakening for Booger and that 25 years, that's his 25 years.

PIT and NE have 6 and SF could be the third to 6 this Sunday. This once proud franchise of football, not all the ancillary crap, is fading before his very eyes. SF has now been back twice since the Cowboys went and they look like they're building something.

I am hoping that he realizes he cannot will it to happen. The name Dallas Cowboys means nothing on the field, ratings, revenue, the glitzy glamour stuff, yes, but not on the field. They are just another team on the field, wearing historical laundry.

And something else just recently started happening that is really bothersome to him, they began pointing at him, not his HC in training. I do not for a minute underestimate the impact of what talking heads like Bradshaw and Aikman and a few others did to his ego and psyche this past season. I don't care what he said, that hurt and he thought he was off limits.

You are correct, the proof will be in the pudding but this isn't going to be that instant, just add milk, pudding. Because he ended this past season with that pudding all over his face.

he can will it to happen, if you really want and that comes with controlling your urget to get involved. leave football operations to the people who understand it and make everything about football.

 

[Ranched]

BS, I am not trying to divide anyone and didn't call anyone out. I didn't discredit anyone.

Lol, the way this thread is going CC, it may be 26 years.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Holy Crapp, that's just incredibly stupid. I actually hadn' thought of it that way, but that is what we do. (Crying)

On the bright side, I think that's what we've done, and won't be doing anymore.

Garrett was the guy who liked max blocking over max threats/spread, and had the Next Man Up, We Do What We Do philosophy.

In these things at least, McCarthy seems the diametric opposite, with a preference for multiple WR sets at GB, and saying explicitly he'd tailor the defense to the players (presumably this applies to the offense as well).

More WC passing concepts should help in the redzone too. The Coryell run game plus deep threats was working pretty well last year, but we could use more *quick* short passing, instead of *late* short dump offs, and that is especially useful in the redzone.

 

[Diehardblues]

Jerry does the talking. Stephen does the action. Easily discernible by the more astute.

There’s no proof as such. Jerry gets credit for all .