News: PFT: Dak Prescott won't commit to showing up, if he's tagged

CowboyRoy

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You indicated it was an issue with Jerry, so I felt it was only fair to point out that it isn't unique to Jerry. I don't disagree that it would be great to have the best backup possible, but the reality is that it's rare for teams to have backups that are good enough that will allow them to feel okay letting the starter walk if negotiations get tough. For example, Ryan Fitzpatrick would be a high quality backup who can win some games if he has to start, but he wouldn't cause a team to risk losing what they feel is a quality starter, especially if the starter is younger and has a chance to help the team for several years. As for younger backups, the best odds of having one that can step in win games is if the team uses a high draft pick on a QB, and that usually only happens when a team already has a problem at the QB position, or has an aging QB that is nearing retirement.

The issue with Jerry is that he doenst want to rock the boat. Did the same thing with Aikman. Zeke and Dak he seems to be doing the same thing and its definitely costing him in negotiations.

Fitz would be a great backup. Personally, I would prefer Dak, a backup like Fitz, and a talented young backup to develop. When the young guy is good enough to resume #2, then start the process over again.

And yah, that costs money and draft capital. Too important a position to do otherwise. Can always trade the young guy ala Garrappolo if he develops or trade Dak if he wants too much or otherwise.

You keep using the term "usually" and "other teams do this or that".

Why would I care what other teams do? Im talking about what the Cowboys should do.
 

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Well if Dak said this to anyone this early, it was really really really really dumb!
I would have gone along with the tag and then 2 weeks before season starts, then say I am holding out.

Dak wants a shorter contract, and they should give it to him. They are wanting to lock him up for 8 years at 35 mil, which means he cant get a raise later on.
He just played 4 hard years for 3 million, he deserves a decent short term contract.
They won 2 div titles with him, and got knocked out of playoffs due to poor coaching, and the coach that knocked them out both times was mike, who
is now our HC!
Short term is better for Dak, and for Cowboys. It is stupid to think he is worth keeping for 8 years, but he isnt worth a raise after 4 years.
Short term is the smart way to go, if Dak cant be the guy, they can draft a new guy in 2 years and move on from dak.
I guess they are thinking he will win SB's and they have him locked up at what will be a cheap salary in 2 years.

It isnt good big picture planning on part of Jones boys.

If I was dak, I would have waited like I said to say I am holding out, then play only 10 games on the tag this year and next, then move on.
 

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Dak Prescott won't commit to showing up, if he's tagged

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He shouldn't.

Giant difference between getting a market value contract and a year of capped salary.
 

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The issue with Jerry is that he doenst want to rock the boat. Did the same thing with Aikman. Zeke and Dak he seems to be doing the same thing and its definitely costing him in negotiations.

Fitz would be a great backup. Personally, I would prefer Dak, a backup like Fitz, and a talented young backup to develop. When the young guy is good enough to resume #2, then start the process over again.

And yah, that costs money and draft capital. Too important a position to do otherwise. Can always trade the young guy ala Garrappolo if he develops or trade Dak if he wants too much or otherwise.

You keep using the term "usually" and "other teams do this or that".

Why would I care what other teams do? Im talking about what the Cowboys should do.
good ideas, and I would love to have fitz, he would do great here, but not sure he will be available.
Most of the good bkups , teams are not going to let them go, we might can get tanney back !
 

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Well if Dak said this to anyone this early, it was really really really really dumb!
I would have gone along with the tag and then 2 weeks before season starts, then say I am holding out.

Dak wants a shorter contract, and they should give it to him. They are wanting to lock him up for 8 years at 35 mil, which means he cant get a raise later on.
He just played 4 hard years for 3 million, he deserves a decent short term contract.
They won 2 div titles with him, and got knocked out of playoffs due to poor coaching, and the coach that knocked them out both times was mike, who
is now our HC!
Short term is better for Dak, and for Cowboys. It is stupid to think he is worth keeping for 8 years, but he isnt worth a raise after 4 years.
Short term is the smart way to go, if Dak cant be the guy, they can draft a new guy in 2 years and move on from dak.
I guess they are thinking he will win SB's and they have him locked up at what will be a cheap salary in 2 years.

It isnt good big picture planning on part of Jones boys.

If I was dak, I would have waited like I said to say I am holding out, then play only 10 games on the tag this year and next, then move on.

Where are you getting 8 years and where are you getting 35 million?

3 years is too little, 7 years is too long. 5 years sounds perfect for both sides.
 

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"Also looming over this delicate situation is the question of which tender the Cowboys would apply. If they opt for the non-exclusive tag (at about $26 million), another team could try to sign Prescott, in exchange for two first-round picks. " - nbc sports

Trade ! Trade ! Trade !

Then we trade up to get a Rookie QB !!!!


Trade!
 

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One of the best I remember was the Aikman/Beuerlein era.

There was a time when we had Morton, who was very highly thought of coming out of Cal,
One of the best I remember was the Aikman/Beuerlein era.

That was a good one, for sure. Heck, I remember a time when we had Morton, who was the 5th overall player taken out of Cal, and Roger was our backup. I remember having Roger as out starter and Danny White was our backup. That was probably the best QB situation I can ever remember, in the history of the franchise. JMO
 

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Well, I don't agree with any of this. IMO, Foles was a starting QB for many teams if he had the right situation. Heck, Foles could be Dak if he had the right supporting cast, IMO. We disagree 100% here. That's here nor there though Dooms. I agree, we absolutely need a Vet backup if we really want to challenge for a playoff run. Also agree on Rush. Even if he did have the talent, which I am not convinced he does (I mean, how could any of us know), he's never started anything so he's not the guy you want coming off the bench IMO. Besides, he's coming up on his 4th season. That means that he's going to start costing us because of his years vested. Is he worth a million a year or whatever, to keep? I think we need a good backup vet but I'm sure some might disagree.

I'm only telling the truth. Fact he never maintained a starting job. Had it in Philly then lost it and went to KC as a backup, then goes to the Rams as a backup, went back to Philly as a backup. He had a great post season run but even that season 2017 his numbers in the regular season 56% completion, 5 TD 2 int and 6 fumbles. Philly defense was a big help that season. Having said that yes he caught fire in post season. I'm not trying to knock the guy but he had a shot as a starter and it did not pan out. He started the season in Jacksonville 3 TD 2 ints and 2 fumbles in 4 games. With Jacksonville having 2 1st rd picks I would not be shocked to see them get a QB.
 

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Dak didn't sign a full year prior to this, he wants to hold out . He planned the hold out .

Who can blame him ? Zeke got what he wanted .
 

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We can pretend it doesn’t factor in, but I have a hard time believing that all of these ongoing contract talks didn’t factor into the poor locker room chemistry last season.

And now, here we go again. Imagine an offseason where our QB — our supposed magnificent leader — is gone the whole time.
 

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I'm only telling the truth. Fact he never maintained a starting job. Had it in Philly then lost it and went to KC as a backup, then goes to the Rams as a backup, went back to Philly as a backup. He had a great post season run but even that season 2017 his numbers in the regular season 56% completion, 5 TD 2 int and 6 fumbles. Philly defense was a big help that season. Having said that yes he caught fire in post season. I'm not trying to knock the guy but he had a shot as a starter and it did not pan out. He started the season in Jacksonville 3 TD 2 ints and 2 fumbles in 4 games. With Jacksonville having 2 1st rd picks I would not be shocked to see them get a QB.

Well, maybe it is or maybe it's not. Every stop he made had a young QB or a guy who was the starter so he never really went to a team who had all the pieces and had an open QB situation. He's kinda always been in the same situation IMO. So what's really the truth? We all saw what he could do if given the opportunity and the talent. We don't agree here Dooms.
 

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Well, maybe it is or maybe it's not. Every stop he made had a young QB or a guy who was the starter so he never really went to a team who had all the pieces and had an open QB situation. He's kinda always been in the same situation IMO. So what's really the truth? We all saw what he could do if given the opportunity and the talent. We don't agree here Dooms.

I'm not saying there are other reason. Steve Deberg career went the same way. However even when having the starting job he could never hold it. Fact is if he was that great he would not be a career backup, he would be able to hold the job but that has not been the case.
 

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This is what happens when you make a guy who holds out , the highest paid RB in the league .

Jerrah is weak, and Dak will be the highest paid QB in the league after his own hold out .
 

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We can pretend it doesn’t factor in, but I have a hard time believing that all of these ongoing contract talks didn’t factor into the poor locker room chemistry last season.

And now, here we go again. Imagine an offseason where our QB — our supposed magnificent leader — is gone the whole time.

LOL.......Dak is holding out for 40 million.

The stuff you trolls have to make up to try and eak out a legitimate point just gets more and more desperate and pathetic.
 

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Dak will show up and he will play. If he doesn't, one of the backups will come out and show that any half-competent QB can win games in this offense and then Dak loses all leverage at anything long-term. That's why, if you noticed, Dak never comes out of games regardless of how injured he might be or how much we are winning/losing. Doesn't want anyone else to show they might be similar or even better.

It's the same thing we should've done with Zeke. Hopefully Jerry realizes the mistake.
I so agree with you
 
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