The Cowboys should sign Keenum, and let Dak decide what to do next

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Maybe it's simply hedging your bets and at worst having a much improved backup quarterback situation? If and when that long term deal with Prescott gets done of course.

Dallas may look for vet QB help at backup. Really though only people who have a problem with Dak is those on this board. Cowboys do not seem to share that feeling and I know Dak wants to be here. They are going through contract negotiation and if it takes time for both sides to feel good about it then so be it. I do agree with Dak when he said people look at 1 number but a contract is not just about 1 number, how that contract is structured mean a whole lot.
 

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It's desperation.

And what name did I call you?

And again, at least I can keep the years straight.

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oh,now he is resorting to spell check...even more deperate….

you are obviously very frustrated at this point....you even pulled out emoji's...
 

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ok, he may have had slightly better 2017 season...with heck of a lot more support, so lets not forget, but what about the other years? should we for your sake conveniently dismiss and forget those....again, he was slightly better in 2017....and he had the #1 defense and #1 scoring defense

I said what I said, and it was accurate. Nothing more, nothing less. It was not any sort of absolute whatsoever, just facts and stats that show that at one point in his career, Keenum wasn't the scrub some want to call him and actually had a better statistical year than our current quarterback. Nothing more, nothing less. But clearly it rubbed some people the wrong way to read it.
 

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Dallas may look for vet QB help at backup. Really though only people who have a problem with Dak is those on this board. Cowboys do not seem to share that feeling and I know Dak wants to be here. They are going through contract negotiation and if it takes time for both sides to feel good about it then so be it. I do agree with Dak when he said people look at 1 number but a contract is not just about 1 number, how that contract is structured mean a whole lot.

I'm not pushing Dak out the door, but as always, I root for the team over any one player. If the team decides it's in their best interests not to meet Dak's asking price, I'll still be a Cowboys fan. And in one way or another, I think that signing a proven vet like Keenum is a smart business decision.
 

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The only guy 'diverting' here is you. I stated the fact that Keenum had a better 2017 and yiu can't handle that. That's your issue to deal with.

Your double standards are on full display when you make every excuse in the book for Dak while throwing your same book at Keenum. I guess excuses only work in one direction?

There hasn’t been any diverting by me you refuse to answer if you would rather have Case Keenum as our QB. All you’ve been doing is defending him. He had a better season than Dak in 2017 because he had the #1 defense in the entire league and the #1 scoring defense. The Vikings weren’t winning games because of Keenum, they were winning games because of their defense. This is why they allowed Keenum to walk and they signed Cousins to a huge contract. Everything you throw up gets shot down. Answer the question or move on. Do you think Keenum would be a better option at QB than Dak?
 

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We know he can play in the WCO and that he has a lot of experience in it so that's not a reach. I don't know why he would not be able to pick up McCarthy's version, it's only terminology really. What do you base your statement of "below average" on in the WCO?

If there is something that you've read that suggest Dak is interested in signing, I'm willing to look at it. I've seen nothing of late. Please go ahead, lets post that and talk about it. It would at least be something new to talk about.
there are different flavors of WCO and timing offenses....MC's attacks deep and more vertical routes.

we know he can play and he sucks at it given his years of performance....that much is clear....outside of 2017, where he had the #1 defense, #1 scoring defense and top 7 rushing attack and still produced at an average level and that was his best year, his other years were all the cause for the teams to look for another QB....including Mike Zimmer who witnessed his best year....you are telling me to trust you more than ZImmer?

what I have read is that there have been ongoing negotiations....if I am willing to sit and negotiate, I am interested...otherwise I just walk away!!! just google Dak contract negotiations and read through at your pleasure..its out in the internet land
 

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I said what I said, and it was accurate. Nothing more, nothing less. It was not any sort of absolute whatsoever, just facts and stats that show that at one point in his career, Keenum wasn't the scrub some want to call him and actually had a better statistical year than our current quarterback. Nothing more, nothing less. But clearly it rubbed some people the wrong way to read it.
at one point in his career, with the help of #1 defense, #1 scoring defense, #7 rushing attack and boat load of weapons, he was barely average....is that your point? but his other 7 years he sucked...lets forget that...that's all you care about?really!! so perhaps he had slightly better statistical stats than Dak in 2017, but do we ignore 2016? 2018? 2019? I guess for your argument we should dismiss those years...Dak blew away, Keenum's performance in 2016.... yet slightly better in 2017...with all he had at his disposal....come on dude....you have nothing
 

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There hasn’t been any diverting by me

There has been since I pointed out to you your own contradiction on the quarterback numbers. Keenum's were "nothing special" but when you found out they were better than Dak's that year, you've done nothing but try to divert and move the goalposts. Shameful.

you refuse to answer if you would rather have Case Keenum as our QB. All you’ve been doing is defending him.

No, and I have not once said that I did. You guys simply take any positive statement of another quarterback as some imagined slight against Dak. Again, your issue, not mine.

He had a better season than Dak in 2017

Period.

because he has the #1 defense in the entire league and the #1 scoring defense.

No, Keenum's numbers were his own. The defense didn't throw for more yards or have less INT's You fail again.

The Vikings weren’t winning games because of Keenum, they were winning games because of their defense. This is why they allowed Keenum to walk and they signed Cousins to a huge contract.

I never attributed wins to Keenum. Yet another in a laundry list of false assumptions made by you. You're on a roll.

Everything you throw up gets shot down.

Not by you. Not even once.

Answer the question or move on. Do you think Keenum would be a better option at QB than Dak?

No, and I have never said otherwise. But again, in your imagined slight, you seem to have made it up that I have.
 

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you are still very frustrated and deparate and still using emoji's...

I am not crawling under your skin and you are scratching yourself and cussing at the computer....

Not one bit, not while you're looking foolish with your inaccurate dates and poor spelling. As the emoji's are, I'm laughing at you. :laugh:
 

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I'm not pushing Dak out the door, but as always, I root for the team over any one player. If the team decides it's in their best interests not to meet Dak's asking price, I'll still be a Cowboys fan. And in one way or another, I think that signing a proven vet like Keenum is a smart business decision.

So do I. Hell I will gladly take Joe Burrow right now. lol Case Keenum? He had 1 good year in Minn and that was not that great of a season. As normal people go overboard, they don't like Dak so they start throwing crap against the wall looking for it to stick. Keenum as a backup sure I could go that at 3 to 4 mill he was getting paid.
 

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at one point in his career, with the help of #1 defense, #1 scoring defense, #7 rushing attack and boat load of weapons, he was barely average....is that your point? but his other 7 years he sucked...lets forget that...that's all you care about?really!! so perhaps he had slightly better statistical stats than Dak in 2017, but do we ignore 2016? 2018? 2019? I guess for your argument we should dismiss those years...Dak blew away, Keenum's performance in 2016.... yet slightly better in 2017...with all he had at his disposal....come on dude....you have nothing
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If anything I have to give you guys credit for giving me a laugh on a sleepy Friday afternoon. Again, the idea that someone else’s accomplishments are null and void because of supporting cast but Dak Prescott... now that’s a guy who has never had an ounce of help. You guys are the best.
 

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There has been since I pointed out to you your own contradiction on the quarterback numbers. Keenum's were "nothing special" but when you found out they were better than Dak's that year, you've done nothing but try to divert and move the goalposts. Shameful.



No, and I have not once said that I did. You guys simply take any positive statement of another quarterback as some imagined slight against Dak. Again, your issue, not mine.



Period.



No, Keenum's numbers were his own. The defense didn't throw for more yards or have less INT's You fail again.



I never attributed wins to Keenum. Yet another in a laundry list of false assumptions made by you. You're on a roll.



Not by you. Not even once.



No, and I have never said otherwise. But again, in your imagined slight, you seem to have made it up that I have.


Not wasting anymore time with you on this you’re just rambling on. Nothing but drivel! You refuse to give a simple yes or no answer if you would rather have Keenum as our QB. You keep talking him up and keep tearing Dak down.
 

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at one point in his career, with the help of #1 defense, #1 scoring defense,

How did the defense throw for those yards and limit the INT's?

#7 rushing attack

Dallas' rushing attack was 2nd that year! Dig that hole deeper. :facepalm:


and boat load of weapons, he was barely average....is that your point? but his other 7 years he sucked...lets forget that...that's all you care about?really!! so perhaps he had slightly better statistical stats than Dak in 2017, but do we ignore 2016? 2018? 2019? I guess for your argument we should dismiss those years...Dak blew away, Keenum's performance in 2016.... yet slightly better in 2017...with all he had at his disposal....come on dude....you have nothing

I have exactly what I said:

Keenum put up better overall numbers in 2017 than Prescott.

Cry if you don't like it.
 

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So do I. Hell I will gladly take Joe Burrow right now. lol Case Keenum? He had 1 good year in Minn and that was not that great of a season. As normal people go overboard, they don't like Dak so they start throwing crap against the wall looking for it to stick. Keenum as a backup sure I could go that at 3 to 4 mill he was getting paid.

That's all I've been trying to say. But check out how the kids' claws come out when you try to say anything nice about another player.
 

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Not wasting anymore time with you on this you’re just rambling on. Nothing but drivel! You refuse to give a simple yes or no answer if you would rather have Keenum as our QB. You keep talking him up and keep tearing Dak down.

Truth hurts.

Run along then.
 

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Truth hurts.

Run along then.

I posted the truth and it’s hit home and you continue to post nonsense. All you’ve been doing this entire discussion is talking Keenum up and tearing Dak down. You’ve made it pretty obvious who you think the better QB is.
 

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I posted the truth and it’s hit home and you’re posting nothing but nonsense! All you’ve been doing this entire discussion is talking Keenum up and tearing Dak down. You’ve made it pretty obvious who you think the better QB is.


I thought you're "not wasting anymore time" or is that selective too?
 
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