30 points a game is the key

12+88=7 · May 1, 2020

Rockport said:
Bull****. We’ve proved over and over again that you need a defense to be able to win. Offense alone will not win. I guess you are young and just don’t have the experience to realize this. It’s a fact. Bank it.

The defense was good enough, IF the offense had been consistent last year.

The offense being wildly inconsistent was the downfall of the team.

I'm pretty sure I have shoes older than you.

gjkoeppen · May 1, 2020

12+88=7 said:
Last year I started a thread on "ball control or 30 points a game". The opinions were evenly matched on the subject.

My theory was Dallas needed to open up the offense and pass more and play less ball control to help a supposed weak defense.

In 2019 that's exactly what happened. Dallas passed more and scored more, but their record didn't indicate this at 8-8. When digging deeper there's an explanation for this.

In Dallas's wins they scored 37 points a game and in their losses 17. A 20 point difference, or 3 touchdowns! That was a huge disparity.

Today I read on BTB that Dallas was 8-0 when scoring 30 points in 2019 and 0-8 when they didn't. Wow, that 30 point threshold seems very important. Last year teams that scored 30 points were 116-16 or a .879 winning percentage which would put a team at 14-2 and most likely the #1 seed and home field.

With everyone saying it was the (insert adjective) defense in the NFL that needed to be fixed. The true fact was it was the wildly inconsistent offense that was the cause of an 8-8 season.

If the offense had been consistent Dallas would have won the division, made the playoffs, and would have been contenders instead of pretenders, even with the supposed weak defense.

The most 30 point games in a year for Dallas is 10. That's 10 wins. This year with the offseason Dallas has had the 10 game 30 point threshold should be surpassed. If this offense stays consistent Dallas will be one of the favorites in the NFC, no matter the state of the defense.

30 points or bust!!!!

So the old saying of defenses win championships really isn't true?
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12+88=7 · May 1, 2020

KJJ said:
You won’t find many teams that have averaged 30 points a game and no team is consistent week to week. All teams have a bad game once in a while. Some of the most potent offensive teams in NFL history such as the 07 Pats and 2013 Broncos didn’t win a championship. NE couldn’t get Eli on the ground in 07 that would have prevented the Tyree completion. Denver gave up 43 points to Seattle in the SB in 2013.

This is how you get to 13-3 and 14-2. Being consistent. You can't be in consistent half the time and end up 13-3or 14-2. You end up 8-8.

Rockport · May 1, 2020

12+88=7 said:
The defense was good enough, IF the offense had been consistent last year.

The offense being wildly inconsistent was the downfall of the team.

I'm pretty sure I have shoes older than you.

You didn’t watch the games obviously. Must get your takes from SAS? Our defense couldn’t stop anyone last year. Don’t let the stats fool you. #10 in the league I think? That was only because our Dak lead offense was a freak of nature and moved the ball all over the place. We were playing from behind constantly because our defense sucked. Our special teams pinned our offense deep in our own territory so we had to make 80, 90 yard drives to score. Our special teams were even worse than the defense. I urge you to study the game without an agenda.

reddyuta · May 1, 2020

30 point average is hard to do,we are playing some good defenses.the defense has to help with turnovers in close games.

12+88=7 · May 1, 2020

Whyjerry said:
31-30 = Loss

This defense MUST play better. The Chicago and Buffalo games were terrible to watch.

Good defense > Good offense. Always.

Did you know Buffalo scored 13 points in the 1st half and 13 points in the 2nd half.

The reason it looked bad was because the offense went 51 minutes between scores in a 60 minute game.

PAPPYDOG · May 1, 2020

Rockport said:
You didn’t watch the games obviously. Must get your takes from SAS? Our defense couldn’t stop anyone last year. Don’t let the stats fool you. #10 in the league I think? That was only because our Dak lead offense was a freak of nature and moved the ball all over the place. We were playing from behind constantly because our defense sucked. Our special teams pinned our offense deep in our own territory so we had to make 80, 90 yard drives to score. Our special teams were even worse than the defense. I urge you to study the game without an agenda.

He moved us from 9-7 to 8-8 yahoooooooo

OmerV · May 1, 2020

ElGatoGrande said:
I hate to blame things on consistency when in reality they get stopped in their tracks by any team with a serviceable defense. The reason there was a big difference in success rate was that the opponent changed! The quarterback simply has to be more competitive when the defense pushes back.

The defense suffered from a bad coaching philosophy and stupid personnel decisions, IMO. That whole bend-don't-break thing doesn't work if you bend that much and you've got no play makers... and you're not scoring points.

Playing well against both good and not so good defense is part of consistency means. The Eagles defense was 13 in points allowed, and the Cowboys scored 37 one time, and 10 the next. That's the same defense, but very different results. As for better defenses, they only played 3 top 10 defenses, and scored more points and gained more yards than those defenses averaged in 2 of the 3. Slow starts and little help from the defense hurt them in those games.

12+88=7 · May 1, 2020

Rockport said:
You didn’t watch the games obviously. Must get your takes from SAS? Our defense couldn’t stop anyone last year. Don’t let the stats fool you. #10 in the league I think? That was only because our Dak lead offense was a freak of nature and moved the ball all over the place. We were playing from behind constantly because our defense sucked. Our special teams pinned our offense deep in our own territory so we had to make 80, 90 yard drives to score. Our special teams were even worse than the defense. I urge you to study the game without an agenda.

#11 in points against means two thirds of the NFL couldn't stop anyone.

Defense gave up 17 points in wins, 23 in losses.
Offense scored 37 points in wins, 17 in losses.

Whyjerry · May 1, 2020

12+88=7 said:
Did you know Buffalo scored 13 points in the 1st half and 13 points in the 2nd half.

The reason it looked bad was because the offense went 51 minutes between scores in a 60 minute game.

It looked bad because the Buffalo Bills didn’t have to punt. That is pathetic.

12+88=7 · May 1, 2020

gjkoeppen said:
So the old saying of defenses win championships really isn't true?
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You can't win a championship without a good defense.

But put a great consistent offense the can average 30 points a game with a good defense and your chances in today's NFL increase exponentially.

PAPPYDOG · May 1, 2020

As you can verify from the below videos its the DEFENSE who is responsible for our losing ways!!!!
If the Defense can't hold opposing offenses to 7 points a game how the heck do you expect our low cap offense squad with no talent players to score ????

12+88=7 · May 1, 2020

Whyjerry said:
It looked bad because the Buffalo Bills didn’t have to punt. That is pathetic.

It looked bad because Dallas could respond and match them drive for drive, point for point.

KJJ · May 1, 2020

12+88=7 said:
The offense scores 9 points in 3.5 quarters, but it's the defense that lost the game giving up 21 points in 1st half(24 total).

The offense scores 9 TOTAL points, but it's the defense that loses the game giving up 17.

OK

The defense also lost the NO and NE games because they gave up 12 and 10 points respectively. But I get it, the defense didn't create turnovers or field position or score. Got it.

I said the defense was more CONSISTENT, than the offense in 2019. That's a fact.

You’re claiming the 11th ranked defense that was one of the worst in the league at forcing turnovers was more consistent than the number one ranked offense that scored over 30 points in six games and over 40 in two of the final three games. lol Had our kicker not missed 10 makeable kicks we would’ve scored even more points. You’re going to lose a lot of games especially on the road giving up 21 first half points. Our D allowed Sam Darnold and Mitch Trubisky to have career days. Our defense made Trubisky look like Lamar Jackson. Trubisky had 63 yards rushing against us which was 34 more yards than he ran for against anyone else. It was embarrassing! Jeff Driskel a backup QB for the Lions who got cut this offseason had his most proficient game against us. He tossed 2 TDs and had a passer rating of 109.3. He also rushed for 51 yards. Hard to believe anyone would defend our defense and point the finger at our offense for the disappointing season we had.

PAPPYDOG · May 1, 2020

12+88=7 said:
It looked bad because Dallas could respond and match them drive for drive, point for point.

When was the last time we had a so-called "Shootout" game?
We can't keep up the reasons I leave with you.....

Whyjerry · May 1, 2020

12+88=7 said:
It looked bad because Dallas could respond and match them drive for drive, point for point.

Whatever. Same story in Chicago. You do know defense matters right? Did those Dan Marino and Dan Fouts led offensive juggernauts ever win? No they did not. Want to know why?

12+88=7 · May 1, 2020

KJJ said:
You’re claiming the 11th ranked defense that was one of the worst in the league at forcing turnovers was more consistent than the number one ranked offense that scored over 30 points in six games and over 40 in two of the final three games. lol Had our kicker not missed 10 makeable kicks we would’ve scored even more points. You’re going to lose a lot of games especially on the road giving up 21 first half points. Our D allowed Sam Darnold and Mitch Trubisky to have career days. Our defense made Trubisky look like Lamar Jackson. Trubisky had 63 yards rushing against us which was 34 more yards than he ran for against anyone else. It was embarrassing! Jeff Driskel a backup QB for the Lions who got cut this offseason had his most proficient game against us. He tossed 2 TDs and had a passer rating of 109.3. He also rushed for 51 yards. Hard to believe anyone would defend our defense and point the finger at our offense for the disappointing season we had.

#11 against the points is one of the worst in the league?

Consistency over the course of the year, 16 games. Yes, the defense was more consistent.

Look at all 16 games, not just the ones to prove a point. If you do this, it will slap you in the face how much more consistent the defense was over the offense.

Shinaoi · May 1, 2020

Hawkeye0202 said:
Do you know how hard it to score 30 points in an NFL game AND do it consistently game after game?

hard enough we couldn’t drop but 22 in the jets

Rockport · May 1, 2020

PAPPYDOG said:
He moved us from 9-7 to 8-8 yahoooooooo

Thank you for this post. It makes my day actually :muttley:

KJJ · May 1, 2020

12+88=7 said:
This is how you get to 13-3 and 14-2. Being consistent. You can't be in consistent half the time and end up 13-3or 14-2. You end up 8-8.

The “team” hasn’t been consistent but our offense has been far better than our defense for years. The only time our defense ever looked like it might be starting to overtake our offense was in 2018. We had some outstanding defensive performances especially against New Orleans but our D began to crack late that season and fell apart in the playoffs.

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