Zeke Advanced Efficiency Stats

StuckMojo · Nov 15, 2020

He is not what he was his first couple seasons and I do not believe he is a good fit with Moore’s style of offense.

blueblood70 · Nov 15, 2020

Sydla said:
I am surprised to find you making excuses for a Cowboy.

not an excuse VALID REASONS , enough of them to give them mulligan for this tear..

sorry but its been nightmare of injuries and things with new staff has been unsettled and inconsistent..cant be judge individual in year like this..

its make zero sense to do so but the sharks smell blood in the water around here and like to regurgitate their narratives to pounce on players while down..

i can see through the mess , they still wear the star and deserve our support. I should say mine.. so if you dont like that , sorry.....some of us can see the forest through the trees..

jwooten15 · Nov 15, 2020

Cmac said:
…..I'm beginning to wonder if you been listening to someone else, too much? When all else fails, go with the eye test.....The plays called, the packages, missed blocks, now the QB out there, and the same OC on the sideline. And before you get started, no one is excusing fumbles. Next up: Why our WRs should be released....their numbers are definitely down now.

The eye test tells me, as an objective fan, that Zeke is not good anymore. The stats I posted just back that up

jwooten15 · Nov 15, 2020

blueblood70 said:
its insane to try and use 2020 stats to start dissecting payers right now..so ignorant without a threat at QB, horrible mash unit of an OL, an OC who has no clue how to integrate a run game even before we go down 2-3 scores and that leads me to no defense ie down so quickly the run game becomes moot..

the zeke haters always been bad but really this year they couldn't wait to jump on him while the TEAM is down..good try even 2019 where KM tried to kill zekes career, zekes played very well especially late in the year..

making any comparisons to him and other players whom are NOT IN ZEKES position right now , bring them here i bet they struggle as well..

fans are pitiful and shameful, get off it zekes here 1-2 more seasons so the threads are moot and have no validity.

get back a shell for that OL and a threat at QB before we end zekes career..

anyone comparing any of our skill players on offense right now with this mash unit around them is just finding a way to push narrative while they are down..

Come on, man. Dalvin Cook plays with freaking KIRK COUSINS at QB (and an average offensive line) and he’s tearing the league apart.

It’s not a “narrative” to say that Zeke has drastically regressed. Stats and common sense prove it. It doesn’t make me a “hater” to point it out; it makes me realistic.

I call things as they are. You can’t tell me that you think 2020 Zeke would run the same if he could magically teleport back to 2016 and run behind that line. He wouldn’t.

Redsfan_83 · Nov 15, 2020

jwooten15 said:
And just for giggles, let’s compare Zeke to Dalvin Cook, by the same metrics.

Kind of embarrassing/scary, huh?

Cook faces a stacked box 35% of the time and still averages over 5 ypc. And don’t get me started on the drastic difference in big play capability between the two backs.

All of this doesn’t even start to mention the salary difference between the two. Cook just signed his extension at ~66% of the total $ value of Zeke’s contract.

That production margin is staggering.

I too am not happy with Zeke's production and very frustrated with his play, but you are not comparing apples to apples here. Cook has been in the league for 4 years, and has played a whopping 36 games. He has no mileage on his body and has 2900 rushing yards, where Zeke has played in 65 games with 6000 yards rushing. If when games played and rush yards are comparable you have more of a point.

SteveTheCowboy · Nov 15, 2020

Redsfan_83 said:
I too am not happy with Zeke's production and very frustrated with his play, but you are not comparing apples to apples here. Cook has been in the league for 4 years, and has played a whopping 36 games. He has no mileage on his body and has 2900 rushing yards, where Zeke has played in 65 games with 6000 yards rushing. If when games played and rush yards are comparable you have more of a point.

You make a good point. I like how some people complain about our owner/execs/coaches/scheme.....and then proceed to tell us how any other rb would be SO much better here.

You (they) don't know that. Why wouldn't Jerry/coaches ruin THEM as well?

blueblood70 · Nov 15, 2020

jwooten15 said:
Come on, man. Dalvin Cook plays with freaking KIRK COUSINS at QB (and an average offensive line) and he’s tearing the league apart.

It’s not a “narrative” to say that Zeke has drastically regressed. Stats and common sense prove it. It doesn’t make me a “hater” to point it out; it makes me realistic.

I call things as they are. You can’t tell me that you think 2020 Zeke would run the same if he could magically teleport back to 2016 and run behind that line. He wouldn’t.

disagree Cousins is for sure better then Dalton, Nooch, and Gilbert and their OL is better then ours..its not even a comparison. Sorry but unless they play in the EXACT situation in the exact games, well these narratives, comps, and suspect stat picking , its a all moot..

you can have your fun trying ,waste your time pushing your own narratives, its not the same..

you have time machine go back to game 1 switch cook for zekes and let the seasons play out exactly the same and then compare, well thats the only way you prove your little graph and stats would play out..period..fun fan thing go compare payers but without them being on the same exact teams playing the exact game and in the exact positions coaches, scheme, its all fantasy..

Kingofholland · Nov 15, 2020

I wouldn't put extra guys in the box either if I was facing a team playing behind and didn't need more players to get push against a banged up line.

We all know Zeke hasn't been effective most of the year, but stacked boxes haven't been a concern.

blueblood70 · Nov 15, 2020

jwooten15 said:
You can’t tell me that you think 2020 Zeke would run the same if he could magically teleport back to 2016 and run behind that line. He wouldn’t.

yes pretty dang close yes..

iour entire TEAM is worse then 2016 nothing the same we were 13-3 its been downhill for ALL, cant nit pick one player. Everyone says they wish they had back 2016 zeke well i wish we had 2016 everything compared to this season. damn f n right!!

since we are Playing fantasy hindsight

id also like to see Romo take back over late in that season and see how he fared in the playoffs..lets do it!! that Line with Zeke and healthy Romo for 4 games..we win a SB..possibly but in fantasy land yes

Jarntt · Nov 15, 2020

If this is for this year we have been behind a lot so I suspect that we have many more snaps against defenses that are expecting pass and in the nickel. What are these stats for his career?

aria · Nov 15, 2020

Redsfan_83 said:
I too am not happy with Zeke's production and very frustrated with his play, but you are not comparing apples to apples here. Cook has been in the league for 4 years, and has played a whopping 36 games. He has no mileage on his body and has 2900 rushing yards, where Zeke has played in 65 games with 6000 yards rushing. If when games played and rush yards are comparable you have more of a point.

So now zeke gets the mileage excuse? I thought he was the most durable back in the league? I thought Jerry gave him the most money ever for a RB because of his longevity?

Redsfan_83 · Nov 15, 2020

aria said:
So now zeke gets the mileage excuse? I thought he was the most durable back in the league? I thought Jerry gave him the most money ever for a RB because of his longevity?

I am not saying it is an excuse, but it is a fact when comparing the 2 running backs. This isn't about Zeke's contract and whether or not it was a mistake which right now appears apparent. Would anybody want to pin their franchise on Cook given his inability to stay healthy? He hasn't played a full season as of yet....I for one would not put the franchise on his back

Havic · Nov 15, 2020

Adrian Peterson was the only RB in recent memory that could win against 8 man boxes routinely.

iamliko22 · Nov 15, 2020

I don't need to look at any stats to tell me 2020 zeke is nothing like 2016 zeke.

cheyennes · Nov 15, 2020

we have ol problems, the block scheme is simple we dont have or dont use pin and pool traps doble traps , ted traps, only ran outside zone and some strecht .
I think the problem is OL and bad play calling.

SteveTheCowboy · Nov 15, 2020

blueblood70 said:
disagree Cousins is for sure better then Dalton, Nooch, and Gilbert and their OL is better then ours..its not even a comparison. Sorry but unless they play in the EXACT situation in the exact games, well these narratives, comps, and suspect stat picking , its a all moot..

you can have your fun trying ,waste your time pushing your own narratives, its not the same..

you have time machine go back to game 1 switch cook for zekes and let the seasons play out exactly the same and then compare, well thats the only way you prove your little graph and stats would play out..period..fun fan thing go compare payers but without them being on the same exact teams playing the exact game and in the exact positions coaches, scheme, its all fantasy..

It's like people do not understand the Butterfly Effect. Times 10 million.

I think people think too highly of themselves. They KNOW it ALL...the center of the universe. Like if THEY ran things....well .... things'd be way different.

Easy to say when you have ZERO accountability. Complete fantasy.

SteveTheCowboy · Nov 15, 2020

Havic said:
Adrian Peterson was the only RB in recent memory that could win against 8 man boxes routinely.

For a stretch of a 3-4 years...AP was The Man. Like a combination of all the RBs....Smith, Sanders, Brown....wicked.

CyberB0b · Nov 15, 2020

Zeke won't be a cowboy in 2022.

SteveTheCowboy · Nov 15, 2020

iamliko22 said:
I don't need to look at any stats to tell me 2020 zeke is nothing like 2016 zeke.

You mean you use the EYE TEST?

(I'm being facetious towards the funny bunnies that would rather use cherry picked stats...rather than just look. They think it makes them more in the know. )

SteveTheCowboy · Nov 15, 2020

CyberB0b said:
Zeke won't be a cowboy in 2022.

Several, probably... Nostradamus.

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