Once Again, Dalton folds in a big game

5Stars said:

Insults...that will make him understand your twisted logic. Why some of you Dak fans resort to this, I have no clue?

Hey, but, I do have to give you some credit, you did not use the word "hater"....yet.

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I am proud of you dak detractors sticking up for each other so much....its cute

USArmyVet said:

So instead of focusing on Dak's piss poor record against winning teams you pivot to Dalton as some sort of desperate attempt to defend the poster child quarterback of mediocrity?

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What's aaron rodgers record against winning team? do your homework before trying to use a logic that's way above your head.

USArmyVet said:

Wins in 2019 for Dak: 8 in 16 games

Wins in 2020 for Dak: 2 in 5 games

Such a winning QB.

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Dalton...your hero, his record? LOL

5Stars said:

Laugh all you want...but you are not the one that will pay Dak.

(those little laugh things are cute)

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neither are you paying...so what is it to you?

and I do think its funny you say Dalton can compete with dak. its actually hilarious...

Cowboy Lover said:

I'll assume you dont; want to answer the question? That's okay...we got a lot of months ahead to get to it. Take your time.

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I am trying to teach the kid a few things...don't interrupt.

CowboysFaninHouston said:

What's aaron rodgers record against winning team? do your homework before trying to use a logic that's way above your head.

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Well based on your passionate defense of Dak I would say the only thing above your head is Dak.

CowboysFaninHouston said:

Dalton...your hero, his record? LOL

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My hero? My hero is my daughter but you keep having no life. Oh, and why do you keep pivoting to other QB's when the question is paying Dak or not? Deflection never wins an argument.

USArmyVet said:

Well based on your passionate defense of Dak I would say the only thing above your head is Dak.

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again, avoiding to answer...typical Dak detractor...what's aaron rodgers record against winning teams?

I don't defend dak. I support my team and what I think will benefit the team. compared to you, since what you want is to be right even if it means cowboys will suck forever....there is a difference between us.

USArmyVet said:

My hero? My hero is my daughter but you keep having no life. Oh, and why do you keep pivoting to other QB's when the question is paying Dak or not? Deflection never wins an argument.

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Dalton is your hero...that much is obvious...you and Khiladi are pair of a kind.

I am not pivoting to other QBs...I asked a simple question in response to your none sense...

What is Aaron Rodgers record against winning teams?

use google...its a search engine they came up with 20 years ago and it finds you a lot of information...try it.

CowboysFaninHouston said:

again, avoiding to answer...typical Dak detractor...what's aaron rodgers record against winning teams?

I don't defend dak. I support my team and what I think will benefit the team. compared to you, since what you want is to be right even if it means cowboys will suck forever....there is a difference between us.

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Interesting. So when myself or others offer suggestions on what is best for the team and that involves not paying Dak, suddenly it's more about defending Dak than engaging in a healthy, adult conversation whilst appreciating that all want the best for the team......but Dak dfenders can't do that it would seem.

CowboysFaninHouston said:

Dalton is your hero...that much is obvious...you and Khiladi are pair of a kind.

I am not pivoting to other QBs...I asked a simple question in response to your none sense...

What is Aaron Rodgers record against winning teams?

use google...its a search engine they came up with 20 years ago and it finds you a lot of information...try it.

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If you think that someone other than my daughter is my hero then your life priorities are screwed up seeing as how you think anyone's hero is a sports figure.

USArmyVet said:

Interesting. So when myself or others offer suggestions on what is best for the team and that involves not paying Dak, suddenly it's more about defending Dak than engaging in a healthy, adult conversation whilst appreciating that all want the best for the team......but Dak dfenders can't do that it would seem.

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no, I never said don't suggest....I countered your opinion with reasons on why a large contract is not end all be all..

but what I did was call bullshiet reasons dak detractors tend to put out there.

and one of them is this Dak's record against winning teams....so I asked you tell me another QBs record? its futile to compare in a vaccum as you have tried to do.....

so again, what's aaron rodgers record against winning teams?

USArmyVet said:

If you think that someone other than my daughter is my hero then your life priorities are screwed up seeing as how you think anyone's hero is a sports figure.

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I know my life priorities....but you need to work on yours...

my hero is my wife....

sports is entertainment....

I don't need to insult others to get a kick out of it...but when people insult me...I am sure going to give them a hard kick in the balls......you are plenty on record when people disagree with you, to attack them, insult them, etc..... internet message boards don't forget.....

look in the mirror son....deeply.... you have to really examine yourself and your life.

Rod

CowboysFaninHouston said:

no, I never said don't suggest....I countered your opinion with reasons on why a large contract is not end all be all..

but what I did was call bullshiet reasons dak detractors tend to put out there.

and one of them is this Dak's record against winning teams....so I asked you tell me another QBs record? its futile to compare in a vaccum as you have tried to do.....

so again, what's aaron rodgers record against winning teams?

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gers vs. Winning Teams


2020: 3-1

2019: 3-2

Total: 6-3 record against winning teams in 2019 & 2020. Remainder of games against teams 8-8 or worse Rodgers was 20-3.

I did not include teams that finished the season at 8-8.

CowboysFaninHouston said:

I know my life priorities....but you need to work on yours...

my hero is my wife....

sports is entertainment....

I don't need to insult others to get a kick out of it...but when people insult me...I am sure going to give them a hard kick in the balls......you are plenty on record when people disagree with you, to attack them, insult them, etc..... internet message boards don't forget.....

look in the mirror son....deeply.... you have to really examine yourself and your life.

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Thanks for the advice so from this point forward knock off any insults and degrading those that disagree with your position.

CowboysFaninHouston said:

I can quote 2016 and 13-3 wins. I can quote 2017 and 9-7 team. I can quote 2018 and the playoff push...

in fact you keep going back to 2019 and only 2019 and only one game in 2019.....so isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?

if you call Dak my Messiah, is Dalton your Messiah?

you are quite a confused kid seemintly mixing up life and entertainment.....

and I would say that in fact Dak wasn't greedy as he didn't ask for a larger, more gauranteed money 5 year contract. he wanted a 4 year contract....

you seem quite upset having lost your wits......you should relax. its only football.

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Winning games is not the same as winning big games. Nobody here is refuting the fact that Dakota has beat up on his share of bad to below average teams, we are saying that his amount of BIG, meaningful wins are far and few.........and don’t ever believe I’m not relaxed, I can shoot a flea off a dogs tail at 200 yards

USArmyVet said:

Rod
gers vs. Winning Teams


2020: 3-1

2019: 3-2

Total: 6-3 record against winning teams in 2019 & 2020. Remainder of games against teams 8-8 or worse Rodgers was 20-3.

I did not include teams that finished the season at 8-8.

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career? Rodgers 32-39

stafford career 7-52
Brees 49-65

Brady and Wilson are actually the highest with a winning record against winning teams

Brady: 70-40,
Wilson: 26-21

Dak 11-11

now you can take any window, narrow the scope to what ever stat that fits your argument. as they say there are lies, there are damn lies and there is statistics...you can spin it any which way you want, but truth is over the career....he is in the same ball park percentage wise as many others..

and 2019....with a lame duck coach....in the last year of his contract. first year OC. defensive coaches who were screaming at each other on the sideline...and a coach who was directly responsible for 3 losses because of his idiotic coaching decisions....a total dysfunctional family.....

shabazz said:

Winning games is not the same as winning big games. Nobody here is refuting the fact that Dakota has beat up on his share of bad to below average teams, we are saying that his amount of BIG, meaningful wins are far and few.........and don’t ever believe I’m not relaxed, I can shoot a flea off a dogs tail at 200 yards

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is that a threat? shoot a flea...what in the heck that has to do with anything!!!! dude...relax

and he has won his share of big games. and lost some big games....yes, philly in 2019 in week 16...and his amount of big meaningful wins are not far and few in between. he went 7-1 in 2018...just two years ago. but I guess the world started in 2019, nothing before matters.

CowboysFaninHouston said:

he did win a playoff game...in 2018....my gawd you are so desparate to spin.

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Romo had won some playoff games as well but still was labeled as a choker. It could be argued that the big game in 2018 was against the Rams, where they game planned against Dak. Dak worked hard and in 2019 was able to overcome some of the flaws he had in 2018. But still Cowboys, Dak, Romo, and so forth haven't had playoffs success since the 90's. I mean its been so long since the cowboys have been a successful franchise that now some of you guys are thinking that 1 win in the playoffs is a success and something to brag about, whereas others think that going deep into the playoffs is success. You were putting down Dalton, but to me Dak hasn't won the big games either, but then you guys seem to be acting like he is clutch, winning them all the time. So who is spinning?

Dalton is an avg QB, but I guess you guys dont think the game plan or how other players play, or play calling matters at all ??
The game plan and play calling was so bad, Aaron Rodgers would have had a hard time winning that game, and I doubt dak would have won it either.

kellen thought passing 47 times and only 19 runs with RB's was the way to go lol. I guess you think that was the way too?
The giants had a balanced attack, 25 passes and 18 runs with rb's. and they were facing the 3rd worst defense in the nfl.

With the giants DL and secondary, dallas needed to run the ball more than they pass.
Dallas had a 1st and goal at the 7 and the first play kellen calls is a pass play lol which resulted in a sack, not because andy held it too long, but
because 1 guy was unblocked, and 2 others beat their block.
kellen should have called 4 run plays from passing formations, and I am pretty sure elliot would have got 7 yds on 4 tries or less.
But no pass happy kellen wants to pass for a td.

if you cant protect your qb, the dumbest thing you can do is have him drop back 47 times to pass, that is a recipe for disaster.
Kellen was pass happy early in the year with dak, and they lost all but 1 of those games, Romo rarely won when throwing 40 times or more.

Romos best season was when he threw 25 -30 times and handed off to murray 20-25 times in 2014.

A good coach will not put his qb in a impossible situation and expect him to preform miracles.

Andy was off target on some and off target on some, I have seen dak have similar games.
If cd doesnt drop a perfect pass, that next bad play never happens.

Bill belichick says players cant overcome bad coaching, and this was in effect for dallas all season.
So blame andy for the loss if you want, but it was a team loss, and the coaching was awful,mm not challenging the play etc, kellen the boy genuis they just
extended lol but give them a pass and blame the qb.
I could have won that game with andy dalton,I could have beat wash at least 1 time but the bozo's we have couldnt.
And it doesnt matter since phil was going to tank the last game anyway.