Cole Beasley. wrong to let him go?

Like other players we let go, he has a chance to get his ring while this forum was crapping all over him for daring to criticize the coaching staff and management (you know, the same people this very forum hates, but only we are allowed to say it, I guess)

CeeDee needs to work on his drops. They seem to come when the game is on the line, hopefully he finds a new set of gloves.

blueblood70 said:

HELL FN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO1

cobb was better, Ceedee and Gallup on rookie deals are better , AC was needed because bease is backup..sorry but again HECK FN NOOOO!

they had to get Diggs to help Allen as we did with AC Bease cant get it done and thats was a lot of money on guy whos compliment.. we now have 1a 1b 1c WR group..

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LOL where is Cobb now?

SackMaster said:

This is not even close to what I was saying.

Even if we kept Beasley, he is not a #1 WR. In fact, Beasley was given 1/2 a season to become the #1 WR in Dallas but completely and utterly failed to do so. THAT is what forced Dallas to trade for Cooper.

As for CeeDee, he was clearly the BPA when we selected him and he head and shoulders above Beasley in height, talent AND versatility. You can line up CeeDee ANYWHERE where as Beasley is a Slot only guy.

So if anything, had Dallas retained Beasley, he would be the 4th Best WR on the team (and it's debatable if he would be that high on this roster) but he would have been paid like he was the 2nd best WR on the team which would have likely had him lose his "fan favorite" status.

The "cost" of letting Beasley go was allowing our WR group improve DRAMATICALLY without him weighing it down with his limited talent and/or pricey contract.

But as always, JMHO

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Hmm..

I never got the impression Beasley wanted #1 receiver.

Dez was our #1 WR when Beasley was coming up.

Dez was cut and opened up money for other money decisions. Beasley felt he had proved his value to the offense. He wanted to be included in that re-distribution.

Slot receiver was producing in the offense. Dak was getting alot of credit and Beasley was being undervalued.

He had to standup and say pay me. I am helping make your stars who they are.

I did not blame him for what he did. He was feed up with Garrett's methods which were directed by Stephen and his dad.

We all were.

Beasley's play in Buffalo has been substantial to their on field success.

How in the world can you not be happy for Beasley and not miss him?

Becuz he is no longer with us..is no reason to downplay his play.

Redball Express said:

I think you missed my point.

It was that we drafted and developed a player in Beezer who was loyal to the team and really was a piece of our success.

And I question taking that player and when he wanted to be paid more..we just went in another direction and instead preferred to pay out monster contracts to Dak, Jaylon, Zeke and Tank.

The last 3 I mention there have just flatlined for us.

But guys like Beasley where just ignored.

It proved expensive to build the team that way. Poor judgement.

I watched Beasley in the playoffs yesterday.

He was impressive. Happy for him.

He is tough and definitely a leader guy.

We could use more players like him.

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He literally did nothing yesterday lol.
And Dallas notoriously signs their own, to a fault. I’m sure they’d love to have kept him, but the price tag for what he offers was too high. This is honestly a situation where both parties did the right thing.

mattjames2010 said:

Like other players we let go, he has a chance to get his ring while this forum was crapping all over him for daring to criticize the coaching staff and management (you know, the same people this very forum hates, but only we are allowed to say it, I guess)

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ehhh. This was a guy plucked from obscurity and groomed into an impactful player. One who was ready to quit and convinced to come back and rewarded handsomely. The Cowboys made Cole, loved him and rewarded him. And when he moved on he took digs at every opportunity. It was just petty and a bit insulting considering the relationship. And let’s be honest no one expected Buffalo to become a juggernaut so all his fawning over them felt manufactured

I can’t be upset with Beasley following the money I don’t consider him a crucial loss or good loss

he’s just a decent receiver who was banged up quite frequently

I also think Cobb put up some decent numbers in slot and was faster

I won’t go as far to say Cobb is better but I don’t consider him worse

Redball Express said:

Hmm..

I never got the impression Beasley wanted #1 receiver.

Dez was our #1 WR when Beasley was coming up.

Dez was cut and opened up money for other money decisions. Beasley felt he had proved his value to the offense. He wanted to be included in that re-distribution.

Slot receiver was producing in the offense. Dak was getting alot of credit and Beasley was being undervalued.

He had to standup and say pay me. I am helping make your stars who they are.

I did not blame him for what he did. He was feed up with Garrett's methods which were directed by Stephen and his dad.

We all were.

Beasley's play in Buffalo has been substantial to their on field success.

How in the world can you not be happy for Beasley and not miss him?

Becuz he is no longer with us..is no reason to downplay his play.

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Umm. Think you’re misremembering a bit. When Dez was cut, opposing teams immediately seized on Beasleys limited route tree and just bracketed him and effectively shut him and the team down. The opportunity for him to cement his value was there, and purposely designed with him in mind and he flopped miserably.

dmq said:

He was asking for a lot of money. Plus, I seem to remember him having drop/fumble issues in his last 2 years with Dallas. No doubt it would have been nice to keep him, but it is all a financial puzzle that needs to work.

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Part of Beasley other than receiving was his punt returning.

He was just there to fair catch

It was very unproductive and I just thought he was injured and he always was nursing hammies and knees.

But I really did not know. It was never discussed.

I fault our staff for not addressing that issue.

On the flip side..CeeDee is superlative returning kicks and also bubble screens and jet sweeps.

He is multi-dimensional and exciting.

Like it alot.

khiladi said:

I basically stated exactly what you stated.
I was referring to the next year, thus the defenders started scheming for Beasley and Dak threw 4 INTe returned for a TD, including 2 in the cluster that was Denver and then Linehan had to take the ball away from Dak and started feeding Zeke around 24 times again and then Zeke got suspended and Dak was completely mediocre.

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Again you embellished Prescott's record. I just checked that 2017 week 2 game against Denver and Prescott only threw ONE pick six. He did have another pick but it was only returned for 7 yards. You're a Prescott hater so trying to make things worse that they really were for Prescott is standard ways for you.
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Proof said:

Umm. Think you’re misremembering a bit. When Dez was cut, opposing teams immediately seized on Beasleys limited route tree and just bracketed him and effectively shut him and the team down. The opportunity for him to cement his value was there, and purposely designed with him in mind and he flopped miserably.

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Really?

What I remember was the cavelear decision to play receiving via Committee.

Beasley got noticed as getting too much opportunity and defenses turned their attention to him.

The whole passing attack imploding forcing Dallas to trade for Cooper.

I never looked at Beasley failing as a #1. Just a totally wrong decision to let Dez go and then not reacting to the obvious void they created not to replace him.

Beasley wanted out and he's having success were he is now. The answer is no. The players who have left should have left because it had become a toxic environment no matter what anyone says.

Let sleeping dogs ly.

Our wide receivers are oddly the best part of our team

Redball Express said:

Really?

What I remember was the cavelear decision to play receiving via Committee.

Beasley got noticed as getting too much opportunity and defenses turned their attention to him.

The whole passing attack imploding forcing Dallas to trade for Cooper.

I never looked at Beasley failing as a #1. Just a totally wrong decision to let Dez go and then not reacting to the obvious void they created not to replace him.

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well yeah. Exactly. Point is though that it gave Cole the chance to show his worth which you said he did.

Proof said:

ehhh. This was a guy plucked from obscurity and groomed into an impactful player. One who was ready to quit and convinced to come back and rewarded handsomely. The Cowboys made Cole, loved him and rewarded him. And when he moved on he took digs at every opportunity. It was just petty and a bit insulting considering the relationship. And let’s be honest no one expected Buffalo to become a juggernaut so all his fawning over them felt manufactured

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Cole made Cole, and people are allowed to contemplate their future career. He owes no loyalty to the Cowboys in a contract driven league. He criticized an offense and coaching staff and how it was using him, and it looks now that he was correct.

Like with Ware in Denver, Beasley will probably go on to be a hero in Buffalo. They love him there and the fan base treats him far better.

khiladi said:

I wasn’t making any real comparison to Gallup. The comparison I was make is Beasley in Dallas to Beasley in Buffalo.

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Fair enough. Garrett truly sucked imo. I'm watching hitchens playing right now. For the sb champion chiefs. That one hurt far more than Beasley.

mattjames2010 said:

Cole made Cole, and people are allowed to contemplate their future career. He owes no loyalty to the Cowboys in a contract driven league. He criticized an offense and coaching staff and how it was using him, and it looks now that he was correct.

Like with Ware in Denver, Beasley will probably go on to be a hero in Buffalo. They love him there and the fan base treats him far better.

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Obviously he put in the work, the cowboys put him in position and maximized his opportunities. I'm not saying that he owes them anything, just that it was fairly tasteless the way he left after the cowboys afforded him so much. Ware is a perfect example, no one begrudged him, a bunch of our fan base rooted for him and was happy for him. Class act through and through. Cole... was not and has not been that. And how does it look like he was correct when he's largely doing the same thing there as here?

DejectedFan1996 said:

Just like it was time for Aikmans country singing self to hang it up

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Glad never heard it.

Who says we let him go ? Beasley literally spent all of the 2018 season ranting on twitter about how he was the best #3 in the game and couldn't wait to hit the open market to go to the highest bidder (why is the narrative we let him go ? He didn't want to stay here)

I don't blame the cowboys for not wanting to drop 30 million on a #3 receiver (they where rightfully happy with Gallup/Cooper and they had a ton of pending contracts going into the 2019 season)

Proof said:

Umm. Think you’re misremembering a bit. When Dez was cut, opposing teams immediately seized on Beasleys limited route tree and just bracketed him and effectively shut him and the team down. The opportunity for him to cement his value was there, and purposely designed with him in mind and he flopped miserably.

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That’s not entirely accurate.
Beasley was assigned to only certain routes (similar to the way Garrett and Kellen did/do with Gallup, Dez, and TWilly). If you go back to the first 7 games of 2016, Beasley was a top 10 WR in the NFL in receptions. Tony Hill was interviewed on 105.3 and said that he coached Beasley (with his son) and Beasley has short area quickness that is almost impossible to cover. Garrett and Linehan were challenged by the media following the Ravens game that they could not make “explosive plays”. Suddenly the plays were long developing and the short pass game was eliminated. But more importantly Garrett and Kellen only assign certain routes and rigid roles to their WRs. (Dez running go-routes when he was absolutely unstoppable on slants was just silly. Not to mention absurd plays like a TE running a bubble screen - Martellus Bennett)

But all of this is completely different from McCarthy who wants all WRs to be able to play all 4 spots and routes. Beasley was pigeonholed and reduced to limited roles but if you were to watch the 2016-17 Green Bay playoff game, Dallas rallied with Beasley. Garrett’s playbook and philosophy is still very much Kellens and thus Gallup runs only certain routes at certain parts of the game. Not because he can’t. McCarthy will change that when he changes the Coryell to WCO.

Beasley was given a great deal more responsibility in Buffalo and demonstrated how inept and clueless both Garrett and Kellen were. Beasleys quickness is meant for a short pass offense but takes innovation and creativity that is available in complex offenses. The history of the Coryell flaw is that the pass plays are rigid and don’t change per novel defense or setting (see Linehan with the Rams or Turner at all his stops following his leaving the Cowboys).

Watch the Chiefs, the speed, quickness and play variability is exactly what Beasley is able to do and what the current elite teams in the NFL are doing. While Dallas has gobemouche Kellen Moore running an offense that has a claim to fame of “what you see on game tape, you see in live”.