Rapoport: Rivers and Brees are retiring

rnr_honeybadger · Jan 20, 2021

Surprised that Rothlisberger isn’t on that list

CouchCoach · Jan 20, 2021

Streetwise said:
Two more franchises that will need a solid QB to be competitive enough to get to the playoffs. Two more teams in the hunt and may need to draft one.

Payton seems happy with Hill and Winston or at least that's the face he's putting on. Since they acquired Jameis Winston, the blue crab population on the coast is mysteriously down.

Thomas82 · Jan 20, 2021

It seems like yesterday when the Chargers chose to keep Rivers over Brees as their QB.

America's Cowboy · Jan 20, 2021

I'm enjoying the whining by the Dak haters. Gonna need boxes of kleenex when Dak signs a new contract Jerry will be offering him soon.
:muttley:

G2 · Jan 20, 2021

CouchCoach said:
Payton seems happy with Hill and Winston or at least that's the face he's putting on. Since they acquired Jameis Winston, the blue crab population on the coast is mysteriously down.

I agree, he seemed like he passed the torch, which was kind of nice to see. Whether or not either is starting material is really up for debate. My guess is that if anything, they would be a one year bridge player if they don't have a QB on their board with pick 21 or 28.

Stash · Jan 20, 2021

CouchCoach said:
Why not Stafford to IND or CAR, NE or WAS? He deserves a shot since he's been in NFL purgatory for almost his entire career.

I’m sure he will be a consideration for several teams as well. WAS is certainly in the market. Not as sure about CAR or NE at Stafford’s expected price tag.

Stash · Jan 20, 2021

ninja said:
I did not think it was possible for the Eagles to save money trading him this year. Cutting or trading him will accelerate a lot of dead cap. I do not think trading him allows the hit over two years.

Eagles are basically screwed with Wentz and his contract and might have to sweeten the trade with a draft pick or two to get a team to take Wentz’s contract.

Yeah, if you click on the amounts for 2021 it shows you that they could actually save around $800,000 to trade him. Not a lot this year, but plenty in the future.

CouchCoach · Jan 20, 2021

stasheroo said:
I’m sure he will be a consideration for several teams as well. WAS is certainly in the market. Not as sure about CAR or NE at Stafford’s expected price tag.

Might not be all about the money if Belichick shows some interest. He's all about getting the QB some best friends like a D and run game.

Stash · Jan 20, 2021

CouchCoach said:
Might not be all about the money if Belichick shows some interest. He's all about getting the QB some best friends like a D and run game.

That would be a surprise. Stafford has been about big money since he entered the league. And Belichick has always expected a discount at the position.

CouchCoach · Jan 20, 2021

Streetwise said:
I agree, he seemed like he passed the torch, which was kind of nice to see. Whether or not either is starting material is really up for debate. My guess is that if anything, they would be a one year bridge player if they don't have a QB on their board with pick 21 or 28.

Payton is a gambler, he took a risk with Brees and his surgically repaired shoulder and he fashions himself as a QB whisperer so he can do anything but one thing he has done is build a pretty good team for any QB to step in and lead.

WoodysGirl · Jan 20, 2021

In randomness...

CouchCoach · Jan 20, 2021

stasheroo said:
That would be a surprise. Stafford has been about big money since he entered the league. And Belichick has always expected a discount at the position.

Stafford has made the big money and he's an also ran in the QB rich NFL world, the forgotten man. I do not underestimate the drive he might have for more than money and he wouldn't be the first vet to take less to get a ring. It would also depend on whether NE's OC gets a HC gig.

TwoCentPlain · Jan 20, 2021

America's Cowboy said:
I'm enjoying the whining by the Dak haters. Gonna need boxes of kleenex when Dak signs a new contract Jerry will be offering him soon.

I hear the 2021 cap is likely to be $180M. If so, there will be a lot of whining in the NFL and a lot of Kleenex for GMs, players, and fans. Good luck working a $35-40M, 4-year contract into a $180M cap. No, 2022 cap is not looking much better.

Let Dak explore the open market and find out his market value. Dak and his agent might just be crying the most.

Motorola · Jan 20, 2021

quickccc said:
Question of the Day:.... Will Phillip Rivers eventually be in the NFL Hall of Fame ?

Yes. Never missed a game his whole career. 5th in yards, TDs, completions.

ChronicCowboy · Jan 20, 2021

Rivers could have played another season but I think he was burnt out. Brees is finished physically, you could tell last weekend.

DanTanna · Jan 20, 2021

Stash · Jan 20, 2021

CouchCoach said:
Stafford has made the big money and he's an also ran in the QB rich NFL world, the forgotten man. I do not underestimate the drive he might have for more than money and he wouldn't be the first vet to take less to get a ring. It would also depend on whether NE's OC gets a HC gig.

I certainly don’t rule anything out entirely.

Tussinman · Jan 20, 2021

quickccc said:
Question of the Day:.... Will Phillip Rivers eventually be in the NFL Hall of Fame ?

Easily. 8x pro bowl, 7x NFL top 100, 60K+ yards, 400+ TDs

He easily makes the hall of fame. Not first ballot of course but I think he gets in where around 3 to 5 years after becoming elgible

dckid · Jan 20, 2021

stasheroo said:
Wow.

I suspected both might retire but it’s big to see both at the same time.

Truly the end of a era and changing of the guard.

With Rivers retirement I have to wonder about Wentz to the Colts.

The Eagles cap hit would be too much.
To me this is a great opportunity to try and snag two number 1's for Dak. Imagine that?

Hawkeye0202 · Jan 20, 2021

CouchCoach said:
Payton seems happy with Hill and Winston or at least that's the face he's putting on. Since they acquired Jameis Winston, the blue crab population on the coast is mysteriously down.

True but I find it hard to believe he's going to either QB with an entire season.

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