Does Jerry Jones really want to win a championship?

TwoCentPlain

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Yes, the GM is responsible for putting a super bowl quality team together. Your answer of the KC GM getting the blame for injured OL's make no sense. Isn't KC a super bowl quality team? The sure do look like it to me. What's your issue w/ the KC GM here?

I have no issue with the KC GM. Just using him to make a point to someone who made a comment that the 'buck stops with the the GM' and not the players or coaches.
You would know that if you read a few posts and had some context. Is Jerry to blame for the injuries to the OL, QB, TE, DL, LB, and CBs?
 
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Jerry has been running this dictatorship long enough his way. He's still not convinced his way is old and out-dated. These players today are cut from a different tree compared to "Aikmen and the Boys" Its more than clear that 78 year old Jerry don't speak 27 year old Dak's language.

His old 1995 way of doing things is not going to work in this generation of players. He needs to be more urban and understand his players; especially since he doesn't want to hire a GM to do the understanding for him.
 

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Jerry has been running this dictatorship long enough his way. He's still not convinced his way is old and out-dated. These players today are cut from a different tree compared to "Aikmen and the Boys" Its more than clear that 78 year old Jerry don't speak 27 year old Dak's language.

His old 1995 way of doing things is not going to work in this generation of players. He needs to be more urban and understand his players; especially since he doesn't want to hire a GM to do the understanding for him.
I think it's more like Jerry didn't comprehend what made that 90's team great. They were a defensive team w/ a deep, talented DLine that came at the other team in waves. And a ball control O. That's not what Jerry is trying to build.
 

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Is that only for blame? Or does that apply to any credit?
So, the Buccaneers don't get the credit, the GM does?
Does the KC GM get the blame for the loss to the Buccaneers? Stupid GM should have traded up and drafted Wirfs. A real GM would have had a plan for 4 OL being out. Stupid GM should have told Andy Reid to run the ball. Stupid GM should have told Andy Reid to give the OTs help.

Ask any CEO and they will tell you the same thing. CEOs get way too much credit when things go right and way too much blame when things go wrong.

If the buck stops with Jerry in your mind, why even bother to watch a game? Just wait for the score and judge the GM. A win and Jerry fielded a good team, a loss and Jerry failed. 13-3 and no super bowl, well, just another fail by the GM.
What exactly can you give GM Jerry credit for in the last 25 years?
He makes all the hiring decisions and has no fear of getting fired no matter what.
 

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I think it's more like Jerry didn't comprehend what made that 90's team great. They were a defensive team w/ a deep, talented DLine that came at the other team in waves. And a ball control O. That's not what Jerry is trying to build.

FA and the cap say hello, nice to meet you.
Would you like a return to the FB leading the way.
 

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What exactly can you give GM Jerry credit for in the last 25 years?
He makes all the hiring decisions and has no fear of getting fired no matter what.

I see you haven’t answered my questions on who gets credit for the TB SB win. Is it the players or the GM?

You keep going to the ‘I hate all things Jerry’ well to drink.
 

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In my opinion there are two types of football players. The ones who want to win a ring. And the ones who just want to play for the money. Yes there is a third type that want both . But the point is where does Jerry Jones fit into this , Are GM . Jerry has always been loyal to his players. It seams he’s not always been loyal to winning a championship. Until he runs his team with only one goal in mind. We will be the same old Cowboys. Competitive. But not Super Bowl Worthy.
Blimey! Phooey! Name one player who isn't in it for the money and wants ONLY to win a ring. :laugh:Has this noble, mythical player donated his money or turned down money?
Name him, Mr. Hyperbole!!!:lmao::lmao2:
 

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Blimey! Phooey! Name one player who isn't in it for the money and wants ONLY to win a ring. :laugh:Has this noble, mythical player donated his money or turned down money?
Name him, Mr. Hyperbole!!!:lmao::lmao2:
I can name you several. Teddy brewski. The entire 1960 Dallas Cowboys starting offense.
 

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In my opinion there are two types of football players. The ones who want to win a ring. And the ones who just want to play for the money. Yes there is a third type that want both . But the point is where does Jerry Jones fit into this , Are GM . Jerry has always been loyal to his players. It seams he’s not always been loyal to winning a championship. Until he runs his team with only one goal in mind. We will be the same old Cowboys. Competitive. But not Super Bowl Worthy.
Jerry wants to win a championship, but he wants it to be easy.
Jerry shoved Jason Garrett down the fans throats and wasted 13 years of our lives because he wanted to be the assistant head coach and use his puppet as a figurehead on the sidelines.
He doesn't deserve another championship.
 

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Jerry wants to win a championship, but he wants it to be easy.
Jerry shoved Jason Garrett down the fans throats and wasted 13 years of our lives because he wanted to be the assistant head coach and use his puppet as a figurehead on the sidelines.
He doesn't deserve another championship.
Micromanage at its best. There was nothing wrong with Jason Garrett until he lost the locker room.
 

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I used to buy into the JJ BS and how he would pay anything to win. He will pay anything to be comfortable and have fun. If they somehow win that would be a bonus, obviously not a priority.
 

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Micromanage at its best. There was nothing wrong with Jason Garrett until he lost the locker room.
I disagree. It was Garrett's incompetence that exaggerated Jerry's. He could have done much more with the teams he had, and he showed incompetence and the inability to lead.
For 13 years the Cowboys had zero leadership from the most important position- head coach.
 

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We need a brain trust that is disconnected from the front lines that has a group that knows everything there is to know about system, cap, player health and productivity.

Dallas needs a cold hard truth hand in the game. Not everyone's rich uncle.

sheesh!
* Well,ya know JJ was a wildcatter in his oilfield production efforts that proved successful & that takes an gregarious outgoing personality trait,akin' to a somewhat self willed inner belief formulated outta pure nothingness( as there's a hell of a lot more dry holes punched&plugged than producers,,, back when I was maybe in junior high? It'd cost an "rigless speculator"who'd sewed up enough leased mineral rights a cool 100k to have us move in& rig up & drill a 3,500' ( 8" ?) hole in the ground,,,last I recall while talking to my dad / late 80's or early 90's it'd run that speculator close to a cool million,,,my point being is Jerry yards along all
that same gregarious good ol' boy in for a penny/ in for a pound innate nature of his when it comes to his players/ personal coaching staff( this is just my theory,based upon the above posted,thoo_O)


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Does Jerry Jones really want to win a championship?

Answer: Yes but he just does not know how to.
 

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In my opinion there are two types of football players. The ones who want to win a ring. And the ones who just want to play for the money. Yes there is a third type that want both . But the point is where does Jerry Jones fit into this , Are GM . Jerry has always been loyal to his players. It seams he’s not always been loyal to winning a championship. Until he runs his team with only one goal in mind. We will be the same old Cowboys. Competitive. But not Super Bowl Worthy.
if you change football players with OWNER...the result is:
JJ WANT MONEY.....don't want rings
 

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Find a recent interview where Jerry said all he desired was to be 'relevant' and 'interesting'. There's your answer. Don't come to Dallas if your goal is to win championships. I think the players around the NFL figured this out years ago.
and coaches too!!!!!!!
 

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yes but Stephen Jones is a penny pincher.when Jerry goes we are completely screwed.
 

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If Jerry truly wanted to win as he claims he does, he'd hire a knowledgeable GM to tend to it. He fully realizes he's unfit to get the job done by his own admission a decade ago. If he can't lay claim to being great himself and getting credit for it, it's not worth what it might take for his satisfaction. That will never change as long as he's still breathing. Unfortunately, it's a very difficult thing for any devoted fan to deal with.
 
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If Jerry truly wanted to win as he claims he does, he'd hire a knowledgeable GM to tend to it. He fully realizes he's unfit to get the job done by his own admission a decade ago.

This is my take on Jerry as well. Jerry claims he wants to win but refuses to replace the one person who is preventing that from happening - the GM. If Jerry truly wanted to win that is where he should start first. His refusal to do that tells you winning isn't that important.
 
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