The end of an incredible offensive line era is fast approaching

The era of most invested o line in the league with only 2 years the o line performed like a top 5 o line. 2014 and 2016

CowboyRoy said:

You are the guy complaining about the Oline and then lobbying for Pitts.

Im the one complaining about defense and advocating, nailing the Cowboys taking Parsons.

Understand the difference?

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When you bring it up then it's part of the conversation.
You brought up Pitts,not me.
The topic of this thread is about the OL, Not Pitts.

Hardline said:

When you bring it up then it's part of the conversation.
You brought up Pitts,not me.

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Hardline=Oline sucks, take Pitts
CRoy=Defense sucks, take Parsons (nailed the pick)

I’ve heard some people had a 2nd round grade on Ball. Obviously, some background issues there that hopefully was just immaturity, but talent wise he may end up being a steal and future starter.

CowboyRoy said:

Hardline=Oline sucks, take Pitts
CRoy=Defense sucks, take Parsons (nailed the pick)

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You think this logic works for you?
I am happy with the Parsons pick. He was picked exactly where I said he would.
We got your guy and you still complain .
I didn't say the OL sucks either. You are making stuff up.

I disagree. The "incredible' O-line era is not coming to an end. Our starters are coming back healthy. Sewell or Slater would have been great and welcome additions but they alone were not going to resolve this idea that the O-line is getting worse. In due time, new talent will come aboard but this draft was just not the time to re-tool there. Meanwhile, Josh Ball from Marshall and Braylon Smith from Houston are addition to our O-line that we'll just have to wait and see what they can contribute.

I think way to many posters are to interested in getting into arguments. Which leads to nonsense being posted. With no actual football discussions being had!

Hardline said:

You think this logic works for you?
I am happy with the Parsons pick. He was picked exactly where I said he would.
We got your guy and you still complain .
I didn't say the OL sucks either. You are making stuff up.

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That "putrid performance of late" that you complain about was by backups. But that comment most certainly sounded to me like you were saying the OL sucks. Please inform us how putrid performance has any other meaning.

Hardline said:

You think this logic works for you?
I am happy with the Parsons pick. He was picked exactly where I said he would.
We got your guy and you still complain .
I didn't say the OL sucks either. You are making stuff up.

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LOL.......so you predicted he would go to the Cowboys? Yah right. Dont forget we argued forever over this, me wanting Parsons and actually predicting we would take him.

Happy with Parsons? You compared him to picks like Taco.

And FYI................the Oline has been a problem for 3 years now and fading.

This OL has been been mostly MIA for 2 years. Its still a young line with Tyron Smith the elder statesman at 30. If they can stay healthy, this is still a good OL.

CowboyRoy said:

LOL.......so you predicted he would go to the Cowboys? Yah right. Dont forget we argued forever over this, me wanting Parsons and actually predicting we would take him.

Happy with Parsons? You compared him to picks like Taco.

And FYI................the Oline has been a problem for 3 years now and fading.

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Tag me to every post that I compared Parsons to Taco. Ill wait.
I predicted Parsons would not be a top 10 pick and said he will go around 12. Exactly where he went.
You are losing credibility by the post.

JoeKing said:

That "putrid performance of late" that you complain about was by backups. But that comment most certainly sounded to me like you were saying the OL sucks. Please inform us how putrid performance has any other meaning.

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Tag me to the post post where I said that. Go ahead.

Hennessy_King said:

The era of most invested o line in the league with only 2 years the o line performed like a top 5 o line. 2014 and 2016

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You not lying. I don't fault the Cowboys for doing what they did but its tricked fans into thinking that's he standard. Only way to build the offensive line is through 1st round picks. Hell no. Draft at least one linemen a year and that position should be a rotating door. Always got someone waiting in the wings. You shouldn't have more than 2 Max player offensive linemen and if you do one of them better be your left tackle.

gp_cowpolk said:

I think way to many posters are to interested in getting into arguments. Which leads to nonsense being posted. With no actual football discussions being had!

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Man its really tiresome...we all root for the same team....we all will have different opinions on it but we all can't agree on how to disagree with each other. Keep it civil. That's lost on some for some reason.

Hardline said:

Ah, memory lane.

It’s an oft-traveled road by all human beings in this life — a prodigiously deep highway with hundreds — better yet thousands of diverse memories. Some are wildly pleasant to reminisce upon, while others incite feelings of curt destitution. All though, represent imaginative pictures and stories that remind us of our once-present toils as we glimpse through a figurative looking glass to the past.

And if you’re a Cowboys fan (at least one that was born before the 1990’s), you likely have dozens of memories of the team’s great exploits tucked away in your brain’s happy place. These thoughts are safely guarded with all of your willpower so as not to allow disturbance — especially ones that can be caused by the team’s putrid performance as of late.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...ehvaFreZEsQMERPhA8eC06NoB0IdDVb1WFXGkXG1l3n-Y

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Negativity reigns.

Hardline said:

Tag me to the post post where I said that. Go ahead.

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You started this thread with those comments in your original post.

Bobhaze said:

I would get more excited if this FO knew what kind of team they want to build. It seems like they just draft “good players” without much blueprint for what they are trying to make.

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This is what happens when people draft solely on the farce called.. BPA.

Everytime I hear people say draft “Just Draft the Best Player Available”, I cringe. To truely draft this way is to disregard an individual teams need, scheme, and philosophy. I get it, the idea sounds nice and a team should be able to land the top talent available.. and if you end up drafting in excess at any one position.. that “should” give you options that can be managed via trades, dumping contracts, etc..

The problem with this theory is.. the BPA player can bust just as easily as the “scheme fit” player can. Most of the top teams in the league have veteran coaches that have been able to implement their schemes, shape their team culture, with the capacity to pick players with talent to fit the scheme.

Its a balancing act... unlike a team that has to draft only 1st Rd Offensive Lineman or 1st/2nd Linebackers to be successful like Dallas seems to do. Teams that are successful realize that position development is just as important as 1st rd talent. Without that.. a team like Dallas becomes one Dimensional.

plasticman said:

I wouldn't call it an "era"....hardly. Call it a period of wasted opportunity

Tyron Smith, Travis Frederick, Zack Martin, and La' el Collins played together for four seasons.

Tyron Smith, Travis Frederick, and Zack Martin played together for five seasons.

During the 7 seasons in which Tyron, Fredericks, and Martin were on the team, there was 17 total Pro Bowl recognitions. There was a 4 year period in which Flozell Adams, Andre Gurode, and Marc Columbo combined for 10 Pro Bowls, proportionally equal.

During his first five seasons, Tyron Smith missed one game. In the past 5 seasons he has missed 26 games. Of course, the Cowboys have to get their typical share of bad luck. They lost the best center in the game to a rare disease. La' el Collins finally gets paid and he takes a year off to still unexplained circumstance. They are hiding something.

The fact that the Cowboys had put together a fantastic line should be considered a tragedy when you consider the team's lack of playoff success and the sad way in which the line is unraveling. It culminated in 2021 with both tackles being replaced by tackles that had to be replaced. Before the season, we learned about losing our All Pro center, Fredericks. Again, La 'el was a no-show for 2021. Joe Loony started only 12 games, Even Zack Martin was out after 10 games. The only original offensive starter to play all 16 games in 2021 was Connor Williams.

Still, it doesn't have to end, there is a possibility this line can be reinvigorated by a center, Biadacz, who exceeds expectations. The rest would be up to the veterans to stay healthy and recommit to being the best they can be. The best medicine would be winning through a prolific offense that played up to their potential.

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You didn't need to write all that. All you had to write was "Garrett Sucks". We would have understood.

Hardline said:

Ah, memory lane.

It’s an oft-traveled road by all human beings in this life — a prodigiously deep highway with hundreds — better yet thousands of diverse memories. Some are wildly pleasant to reminisce upon, while others incite feelings of curt destitution. All though, represent imaginative pictures and stories that remind us of our once-present toils as we glimpse through a figurative looking glass to the past.

And if you’re a Cowboys fan (at least one that was born before the 1990’s), you likely have dozens of memories of the team’s great exploits tucked away in your brain’s happy place. These thoughts are safely guarded with all of your willpower so as not to allow disturbance — especially ones that can be caused by the team’s putrid performance as of late.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...ehvaFreZEsQMERPhA8eC06NoB0IdDVb1WFXGkXG1l3n-Y

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Me boy, you have the heart of a poet.
Good for you.

Here's the thing. Tom Landry and Jimmy Johnson. could build an offensive line out of low round picks so long as they committed to doing things the way they were taught by the coaches.

Great O-lines aren't built out of great college linemen. they are built by teams that emphasis teamwork, cohesion, communication and preparation. The offensive line must work like a machine, each part doing their job, acutely familiar with what his teammates are doing.

All the Cowboy Super Bowl O-lines were manned by guys that were dedicated to each other.

Rayfield Wright, Blaine Nye, Dave Manders, and Ralph Neely played together for seven seasons that included 5 NFC championship games and 3 Super Bowls. The only 1st round pick was Manders, Neely was a 2nd rounder, Nye was a 5th rounder and HOFer Rayfield Wright was a 7thj rounder.

The "Irish Connection" O-line of the late 70's to early 80's had Pat Donovan, Tom Rafferty, John Fitzgerald and Herbert Scott, they played together for 7 seasons including 5 NFC championships. Donovan, Rafferty and Fitzgerald were all 4th rounders, Scott was a 13th rounder.

The 90's team had an offensive line composed of a two 2nd rounders, Stepnoski and Williams, Gesek was a 10th rounder and both Tuinei and Newton were undrafted free agents. In fact, Tuinei started his career as a DT, he even recorded a sack. They participated in 4 NFC championship games and 3 Super Bowls.

That's 14 NFC championship games and 8 Super Bowls and the only 1st round pick that was a major part of this was Dave Manders.

When you have three young 1st round picks on the offensive line you are almost guaranteed to lose at least one to the salary cap unless you are willing to commit a large portion of the salary cap to the offensive line. However, they should be so dominant that it isn't necessary to draft an RB #4 overall.

Windows are very narrow these days and this offensive line provided an opportunity that should have lasted from 2013 to 2016 before running into contract issues. Great teams recognize that O-linemen are draft needs every single year. At least one pick in rounds 2-4 should be dedicated to drafting an O-lineman.