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This goes back to the Jason Garrett days.

We don’t out scheme anybody. We simply rely on talent and our guys beating their guys one on one.

this is simply why we dominate bad teams and struggle against elite teams. We are a top tier team talent wise. We just can’t win on every play.

Not surprising since Moore is on the Garret coaching tree. Its curl routes to the sticks all day!
 

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Well, I look forward to seeing you in the sidelines someday so you can revolutionize offenses. Clearly, your talent is wasted here.
What on earth does that have to do with anything? Are you arguing the offense is good as it currently is? How many times do you have to see a this offense fail in different regimes to see what the issue is?
 

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Just looking at those plays: Did you notice on 2 of the Cardinal plays, 2 receivers ran the same route. How smart is that? If a team is playing zone and you run 4 comebacks at the sticks, you are flooding one area of the field with more receivers than their are defenders. This is often an effective way to beat zone defenses.

Exactly. Cooper makes 1 remark after 1 game and now every fan thinks the sticks concept is bad. My favorite is, "uncreative."

Run up the middle for 5 yards- uncreative.

Pre-snap motion after a formation switch, double reverse, with a throwback across the field- incomplete, no gain. But that sure was creative, huh?
 

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What on earth does that have to do with anything?

I guess I have to explain for you. I said the All 22 shows the sticks concepts working. You said it showed the opposite. Since I know you're not going to get in the weeds, I figured I'd just dismiss you in the same fashion you dismissed me.

Are you arguing the offense is good as it currently is? How many times do you have to see a this offense fail in different regimes to see what the issue is?

I argued that your assertion about the sticks concept not working because of the o line is incorrect. How many times do you have to talk to me to understand I'm direct with what I'm saying? You're always looking for ulterior motives, which says more about your style than mine.
 

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I guess I have to explain for you. I said the All 22 shows the sticks concepts working. You said it showed the opposite. Since I know you're not going to get in the weeds, I figured I'd just dismiss you in the same fashion you dismissed me.



I argued that your assertion about the sticks concept not working because of the o line is incorrect. How many times do you have to talk to me to understand I'm direct with what I'm saying? You're always looking for ulterior motives, which says more about your style than mine.
I'm not always looking for anything. I just disagree you and for whatever reason you can't seem to handle it.
 

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I'm not always looking for anything. I just disagree you and for whatever reason you can't seem to handle it.

I handle it fine. Let me refer you to your own attempt at seeing something that's not there-

Are you arguing the offense is good as it currently is?

Again, we were talking about the sticks concept.
 

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I handle it fine. Let me refer you to your own attempt at seeing something that's not there-



Again, we were talking about the sticks concept.
I asked you a question how is asking a question….how you related that to looking for ulterior motives doesn’t make sense to me but it’s whatever.
 

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At this point, I have a growing suspicion the team does this crap to troll the fan-base. They're the one team that can get away with it and still exceed their revenue quotas for the year. Put on a good show for the fans at the beginning of the season, get them hyped, then pull the rug out.

Parcells: “…consider yourselves sucked…”

IMHO, it’s a combination of variables. 1)DC’s have adjusted to KM’s “innovations” and he’s struggling to adapt. 2)Injuries and Covid Crap have made it harder. 3)They could be planning playoff wrinkles. 4)The OL’s weakness at LG and C, plus Smith in and out at LT have been a problem.

I’m no guru like so many of you guys. I’m just a doofus who likes football and absurdity. My recipe for improvement is more running, particularly on the edges, more tempo and presnap motion, better routes, and better masking of tendencies.
 

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Cite it. Or are you just going to sit in the balcony and throw vegetables?

Cite it? It's almost the entire all 22. I'd be siting damn near every offensive play. Watch it for yourself and see.

If you named specific plays and have the times I'll gladly take a look. I watched it twice once to see the coverage and once to see pressure and tie it in together
 

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I see Jason Garrett routes.

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I'd rather McCarthy take over and install a full-blown WCO.

If Dak doesn't want to have to learn a different offense with new terminology, tough. It would probably help him grow as a QB.
 

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dang just think how good Moore will be after he studies from some of you guys, who repeat what somebody online tells you. Just think the offense which is now #1 could be, well guess we need to make up a new number.
 

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Cite it? It's almost the entire all 22. I'd be siting damn near every offensive play. Watch it for yourself and see.

If you named specific plays and have the times I'll gladly take a look. I watched it twice once to see the coverage and once to see pressure and tie it in together

Someone said earlier I have to break down all the 3rd downs. Said I would. Got started. Saw this. Here's what I got on the first 3rd down after the penalty-

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2:53 in the video
3rd & 14
Def- Cover 3, 4 rushing
Offense-
Schultz & Pollard in backfield, Coop Wide Right, CD slot right, Gallup wide left

Gallup runs a post, CD a corner, Coop a go, Pollard is the check down and Schultz stays in to block. First read is at Coop. Nothing there. There's a window for Gallup right after the cut in his route, before pressure is an issue. Pollard has the underneath defender occupied. Pressure comes and Dak rolls right instead of stepping up past the guy Schultz rerouted. Might not matter anyway. Gallup is throwing up his arm as he goes through the route. Possible 2nd window but Dak is on the move and that's a tough throw.

So why didn't he recognize the coverage and go to the backside post window earlier?

Here's the necessary caveats- this is 1 play. This is how I saw it. All QBs miss reads. I saw the next is a 3rd down conversion which could very well be all positive all around.
 

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Pulled these images from Bob Sturm's articles this week.

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Not sure Dak would have the time to allow for longer routes to be ran or the mobility of Murray to buy himself that time. Just a thought nothing concrete.
 

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I asked you a question how is asking a question….how you related that to looking for ulterior motives doesn’t make sense to me but it’s whatever.

You're like the Chief of the Dindus, man.

Earlier you're going back and forth about how people like me expect Dak to run block, catch, etc. You're calling me bad faith at the get go and it's not worth wasting time on.
 
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