CFZ Since We Insist on Keeping Bums, Prescott Needs a Better QB Coach

SteveTheCowboy · Apr 13, 2022

charron said:
Correct.

Romo wanted nothing to do with another QB's development.

Source?

SteveTheCowboy · Apr 13, 2022

KJJ said:
Everyone who was watching the games in 2016 saw Mark Sanchez communicating with Dak a lot. He was clearly the one mentoring him. Sanchez knew what his role was when he signed on with the Cowboys and it wasn’t to be their starting QB. No one is saying Romo never helped Dak but he wasn’t mentoring him. He wasn’t about to help Dak take his job.

LOL....Romo haters everywhere.

You didn't SEE him "in his ear" therefor Romo didn't want to help anyone.

SteveTheCowboy · Apr 13, 2022

bigE79 said:
The black kurt cousins is what he is, good against bad teams,chokes against good teams..
Doesn't matter who the qb coach is,the results remain the same.

As much as I'd like to disagree, it seems the case.

This is not the mocked "eye test". If we dig down on stats...the case is made.

He did fine against Tampa....but could he do that against them in the playoffs? The record says no.

charron · Apr 13, 2022

SteveTheCowboy said:
Source?

Multiple interviews during and after that time. It's been well documented that Sanchez was Daks sounding board not Romo.

SteveTheCowboy · Apr 13, 2022

charron said:
Multiple interviews during and after that time. It's been well documented that Sanchez was Daks sounding board not Romo.

Thats fine but it isnt what i asked.

charron · Apr 13, 2022

SteveTheCowboy said:
Thats fine but it isnt what i asked.

You asked for a source. It's called the internet and you can Google and sift through all the interviews if you wish but I'm not doing it for you. I've read them and seen them years ago and I have no reason to find them but you are welcome to.

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country · Apr 13, 2022

Pass2Run said:
Is it me?

Or did Dakota P. seem to show the most promise as a player when Romo was in his ear a lot?

Nussmeier has the experience for a job like this. But I think Dakota would just play better if he had a QB coach who had real NFL experience.

I'm certain Romo could do the job better than almost anyone. And as classy as he was, he never seemed to feel threatened by Prescott. He was actually trying to help him win the best he could, even though he wasn't behind center. And Dakota responded well to Romo's advice, I think particularly because he knew Romo was a legit QB trying to help him bring his skill level up NFL speed.

The main thing I see with Dak is, his lack of urgency.

I actually went back to watch Brady's first Super Bowl win last night.

It wasn't pretty.

It was your typical bus driver performance.

In fact, it was pretty awful. Brady is playing better at 44 than he was at 24.. In any case, in that first Super Bowl, you can tell Brady had his head in the game. You can see he wants to win it. And you can see he's focused on trying to give his team the best chance to win.. Not force anything stupid, etc .

Kurt Warner, on the other hand, forced something stupid four separate times, and it cost him twice.

Had he eliminated just one of those, the Rams win.

In any case, I'm fine with the coaching staff from a football standpoint. But they are lacking a bit in other areas like psychology, and anthropology (Belichick is a great anthropologist), and they need a QB coach who brings the best out of Dakota P. and coaches him up enough to take the risks needed to win without throwing the game being stupid ala Kurt Warner.

Using Brady as an extreme metric or comparison for Dakota P at least allows us to see how even the best quarterbacks in the game are really just bus driving bums after all.

So, it's a mindset that our team doesn't have.

You can see the mindset and cohesiveness the Patriots have as a team in that game and that kind of has little to do with the players and very much the coaches.

They surely didn't win that game from what Brady did.

It was more about what Brady didn't do.

So if we're keeping king bum beater, at least bring him a decent QB coach because chances are we'll have to face some elite QBs along the way.

And maybe our defense can bail out Dakota like the defense bailed out Brady in his first Super Bowl win, and prove all the haters wrong.

I think there's a small chance that can happen, even with the average QB play we're currently getting from Dakota, but he has to have the right coaches around him.

Romo was allowed in the coaches room to help with the game planning. So it's not the QB coach that needs help, it's Moore. His game plans suck. And Dak is a soldier, not a rebel. So Dak just goes out there and execute the plays that are called. Romo would always change the plays, that's what got him invited into the planning room in the first place. The coaches wanted to know what he was going to changing plays into. So the problem had always been game planning and play calling. The difference is between Dak's and Romo's personalities. The soldier and the rebel.

Garrett is gone but Moore is Garrett reborn.

SteveTheCowboy · Apr 13, 2022

charron said:
You asked for a source. It's called the internet and you can Google and sift through all the interviews if you wish but I'm not doing it for you. I've read them and seen them years ago and I have no reason to find them but you are welcome to.

I want to know where YOU found romo had no interest in helping dak. You claimed it. Show us. Its how it works.
You want me to prove your statement? Not how it works.

Just because you didnt "see".....doesnt mean he didnt....or more importantly "had no interest".

charron · Apr 13, 2022

SteveTheCowboy said:
I want to know where YOU found romo had no interest in helping dak. You claimed it. Show us. Its how it works.
You want me to prove your statement? Not how it works.

Just because you didnt "see".....doesnt mean he didnt....or more importantly "had no interest".

You don't have to take my word for it. Do your own research

G2 · Apr 13, 2022

SteveTheCowboy said:
Source?

It was well documented by Dallas employees that when Romo missed practice time, he was not at the facility. When he was on IR, he wasn't at the facility. And toward the end of his career, he missed more and more time to try and rest up.

Correction - Not at the facility unless he was rehabbing. Not with the team.

garyo1954 · Apr 13, 2022

Pass2Run said:
Dallas Cowboys QB Dak Prescott reveals Tony Romo was a coach for him

"I feel Tony did a great job, and I commend Tony and thank him so much for that - being another coach for me, helping me out on the game, in the middle of a game, at practice, on the field, off the field, giving me advice.

"He went through exactly what I went through in taking over the position from an older veteran and knowing what it's like to be a quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys."

Dallas Cowboys QB Dak Prescott reveals Tony Romo was a coach for him | NFL News | Sky Sports

Try again, bro?

Glad you brought that up.......QB1 should have some say in if he and Romo got along. Here's what he said in 2017......

Even with Tony Romo out of the building, Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott maintains he had a strong relationship with the departed franchise legend.

"I mean, Tony did an amazing job of helping me out. I think that's what Tony realized is that, he couldn't necessarily control whether he was going to play or not. But what he can control is our relationship," Prescott said Wednesday on The Rich Eisen Show.

"And I think Tony did a great job, and I commend Tony and thank him so much for that -- of being another coach for me, of helping me out, of in the middle of the game, at practice, on the field [and] off the field, giving me advice. And as a guy who went through exactly what I went through -- taking over the position from an older veteran, and knowing what it's like to be the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys, and just helping me out."

Prescott said Romo never made their relationship awkward.

https://www.nfl.com/news/dak-presco...building,,whether he was going to play or not.

Trendnet · Apr 13, 2022

charron said:
You asked for a source. It's called the internet and you can Google and sift through all the interviews if you wish but I'm not doing it for you. I've read them and seen them years ago and I have no reason to find them but you are welcome to.

Source: trust me bro

SteveTheCowboy · Apr 13, 2022

charron said:
You don't have to take my word for it. Do your own research

hah...so you don;t have anything.

I asked so we could be on the same page. Looking at the same information. I thought it would be a good place to start.

You state a claim then ask me to prove it. Well...hard to believe but there it is.

SteveTheCowboy · Apr 13, 2022

Trendnet said:
Source: trust me bro

"Romo dated Charron's Mom"

Source?

"go look it up bro".

SteveTheCowboy · Apr 13, 2022

G2 said:
It was well documented by Dallas employees that when Romo missed practice time, he was not at the facility. When he was on IR, he wasn't at the facility. And toward the end of his career, he missed more and more time to try and rest up.

Correction - Not at the facility unless he was rehabbing. Not with the team.

So "well documented" that neither you nor Carron could cite said sources.

In the time it took for all these replies....yo;d think you two would have chosen the easier path and be done with it.

SteveTheCowboy · Apr 13, 2022

G2 said:
It was well documented by Dallas employees that when Romo missed practice time, he was not at the facility. When he was on IR, he wasn't at the facility. And toward the end of his career, he missed more and more time to try and rest up.

Correction - Not at the facility unless he was rehabbing. Not with the team.

None of this proves the claim that "romo had not interest" in helping Dak.

G2 · Apr 13, 2022

SteveTheCowboy said:
So "well documented" that neither you nor Carron could cite said sources.

In the time it took for all these replies....yo;d think you two would have chosen the easier path and be done with it.

I have nothing to prove to you. If you don't believe me, I couldn't possibly care less, stop responding. There were multiple podcasts where they discussed this very subject. This isn't hard.
I don't have time to make things up. Or, try to convince someone who has no desire to discuss.
Have a great day!

KJJ · Apr 13, 2022

SteveTheCowboy said:
LOL....Romo haters everywhere.

You didn't SEE him "in his ear" therefor Romo didn't want to help anyone.

You must be a Romo lover if you saw him Dak’s ear all the time. No aging, injury prone starting QB is going to be eager to help a young QB take their job.

fansince68 · Apr 13, 2022

KJJ said:
It’s you. The success he had his rookie year was due to a great OL and running game led by Zeke when he was at his absolute best. It enabled him to manage games and play within himself.

I agree. However, if we gave Dak a good o line and running game would he be able to win a playoff game with those items alone? Dak needs savy!!. Dak needs to watch more of his own film to improve and eliminate mental mistakes. This team is always the brides maid due to mental mistakes. Dak could use a good coach that is watching every Dak snap and coaching him after every series. Dak doesn't have a ton of arm talent but it would benefit his pass plays and running game if he would qb keep and run/slide at the right times. The added benefit would be ball control, keeping drives alive, and a fresher defense to close games.

KJJ · Apr 13, 2022

fansince68 said:
I agree. However, if we gave Dak a good o line and running game would he be able to win a playoff game with those items alone?

He’s won a playoff game with those two items alone. To get further he needs a better more physical defense.

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