Browns could void Watson contract with 24th case

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Goodell has already come out and said they will not be using the exempt list on Watson this year. So its either a suspension or not. He probably feels that Houston essentially used the exempt list last year when they told Watson not to report.

That was before the 23rd and 24th allegation.
 

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I've found this whole thing to be very peculiar since it first hit the news. I really didn't think it would amount to much in the end. It has really dragged on and the more information that comes out, the more peculiar it seems. I don't really trust Buzbee. That doesn't mean his clients are lying, but he doesn't come across as credible to me. It is very possible all the women are lying. It is also possible all are telling the truth, but in a criminal court of law how do you prove that beyond a reasonable doubt? Another possible scenario is one or two women are telling the truth and the rest are lying for a payday. It is all a mess and so far new news that comes out clears up anything.

I did find these comments from Buzbee interesting. I don't trust that what he is saying is true, but it is interesting.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...tween-prosecutors-and-deshaun-watsons-lawyer/

“Just so there is no confusion,” Buzbee said on Instagram, “I personally contacted the Harris County DA’s office one time on behalf of the victims to make available to her my clients and any evidence I had collected. My team also did so. They wouldn’t even talk to us! I has no idea that the assistant district attorney was regularly corresponding with Deshaun Watson’s lawyer by email and text; I didn’t know that the assistant district attorney actually went to [Rusty] Hardin’s office to discuss the cases; I didn’t know that Watson’s lawyer provided a PowerPoint that was to be used before the grand jury. I didn’t know, but now know after speaking to the investigating officer under oath, that the police investigation team was convinced that Watson had committed more than ten sexual crimes, or that the ADA has prevented the investigating officers from talking to the women who had filed lawsuits but had not filed criminal complaints. And what I do know is that, of the multiple criminal complainants in Houston, only one was asked by the ADA to appear in front of the grand jury, even though other victims were standing by to do so. As a taxpayer, and more importantly as the advocate for these women, I feel ‘home towned’ in my own home town, and duped. I think the public and all interested were duped as well. Makes you wonder. . . . Thank God for the civil justice system.”
Two of the bigger lies from my childhood are "crime doesn't pay" and "justice is blind".
 

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I doubt 24 women are lying
I don’t doubt at all that at least some of the claims are valid
I think the league in this case has done the right thing. Wait till they have their day in court
That’s not been the case many times with the nfl
There have been many times players were accused of things, suspended and never charged, or charges dropped
My point is punishment based on claims not charges creates a situation that not only is unfair but could be exploited. Inconsistent approaches actually opens the league up to litigation
Losing in litigation for owners is rarely punished at all
The only reason Snyder is likely to lose his team isn’t about all the stuff that happened but the one cardinal sin was touching their money
100% agree. Point taken. The last line you said is spot on. Their Golden Calf is THE REVENUE. Snyder is likely finished.In this case, Im glad. He is a bad human being in general. Very seedy. HE MAKES THE OTHER 31 OWNERS LOOK LIKE SAINTS. Thats sayin something lol
 

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Goodell has already come out and said they will not be using the exempt list on Watson this year. So its either a suspension or not. He probably feels that Houston essentially used the exempt list last year when they told Watson not to report.
the outcry will be enormous if DW isn't suspended. RG has 0 choice but 2 do something.
 

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The thing is....

It seems like Watsons lawyers weren't even aware of this one. So, if his lawyers didn't know then I'm sure the Browns didn't know either.

So, if he withheld information from the Browns that pertained to possible future things happening regarding more potential lawsuits they absolutely might be able to void his contract.

If these allegations are true and if he withheld information from even his lawyers, I think you may see him forced to find a new legal team.
 

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If these allegations are true and if he withheld information from even his lawyers, I think you may see him forced to find a new legal team.

Don't fall for the hype. As long as there are more women that gave Watson massages, they are all potential women that can come forward at any given time. The lawyers know this. No one is being taken by surprise.
 

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Don't fall for the hype. As long as there are more women that gave Watson massages, they are all potential women that can come forward at any given time. The lawyers know this. No one is being taken by surprise.

I'd imagine that's the case. I'm just saying if it's true though, then there's a larger issue. Of course, there are two sides to every story.
 

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https://brobible.com/sports/article/nfl-investigation-deshaun-watson-not-done/

The NFL Is Backtracking On Saying The Desaun Watson Investigation Was Coming To A Close As New Accusations Surface

Rapoport dug into the investigation, saying that the league is looking at the new claims as well as talking to Watson.

“Remember we talked about, a couple weeks ago, where Roger Goodell came out and said, ‘The investigation is coming to a close.’ Well, when these new allegations came, these are now being looked into. So, I would say it’s still on the back end, but I don’t think it’s over because I believe the league is investigating these new claims. And talking to Deshaun Watson about it, as well.”
 

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https://brobible.com/sports/article/nfl-investigation-deshaun-watson-not-done/

The NFL Is Backtracking On Saying The Desaun Watson Investigation Was Coming To A Close As New Accusations Surface

Rapoport dug into the investigation, saying that the league is looking at the new claims as well as talking to Watson.

“Remember we talked about, a couple weeks ago, where Roger Goodell came out and said, ‘The investigation is coming to a close.’ Well, when these new allegations came, these are now being looked into. So, I would say it’s still on the back end, but I don’t think it’s over because I believe the league is investigating these new claims. And talking to Deshaun Watson about it, as well.”

This shouldn't surprise anyone. It's a captain obvious moment. I wish them luck on this one. At any given time women can come forward.
 

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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...al-nfl-suspension-i-just-wanna-clear-my-name/

Deshaun Watson addressed reporters Tuesday for the first time in more than two months, and the Browns quarterback once again proclaimed his innocence in the face of 24 (and reportedly soon to be 26) civil lawsuits alleging sexual assault or misconduct. While the former Texans standout declined to elaborate on certain details of his case, referring some questions to his legal team, he expressed regret for the impact his situation has had on the community while reiterating a desire to "clear my name."
 

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He has 24 accusers. Clearing his name is no longer an option. That's just the way it works in the court of public opinion.

I'm curious to see how the NFL handles this case as women keep tricking in. Do they just let him play until the full investigation is over, like they did with Zeke? I'm guessing that's what they do.
 

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The Browns have been a hot mess for years now.
 

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He has 24 accusers. Clearing his name is no longer an option. That's just the way it works in the court of public opinion.

I'm curious to see how the NFL handles this case as women keep tricking in. Do they just let him play until the full investigation is over, like they did with Zeke? I'm guessing that's what they do.
This is going to be interesting. I doubt if the NFL has any clue as to how to handle this.
 

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This is going to be interesting. I doubt if the NFL has any clue as to how to handle this.
And I bet they’re getting all kinds of input from the owners.

‘The question is how does 24 or 26 accusers constitute conduct detrimental?
 

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If the NYT piece is accurate and he had 66 different masseuses, that means there are 42 that have not come forth so are we to assume Watson didn”t pull his funny stuff with them or did they just go along and remain silent?

Isn’t it interesting that his lawyers haven’t brought any of these 42 forward to vouch that he was a gentleman?

It is also interesting that no other players they have spoken to have ever approached that number of different masseuses, not even close. They find one that has the touch and they stay with them.
 
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