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Not on Weeden but on the game plan
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kojak
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It was the consensus hear, I belief, before the game that the plan was to give the ball to Murray. Manys manys time.
How hard was that?
If Murray had 40 yards at havetime, I say let him pound the ball relentlessly ALL game and the rest of the game.
With 2 minute left in the already lost game, he was on the sidelines. For his sake at least let him rip a couple of long runs to keep his record going for this proud player. The genuses on the sideline should have let him carry all day long and discourage Weeden from thowing too much.
Romo dodged a bullet by the name of the Cardinals defense and he should thank Weeden that he took all the pressure this week while maybe Romo can relatively cruise next week in London. I think the bravados in him will make him play.
But the game plan should be so few passes that Murray could pound it as the blitz came on anyway.
Weeden gave it his best but the game plan failed him with Dez and Murray relatively marginalized. Weeden turned in a sorry performance but so did many other cowboys including our secondary so knock off the Weeden bashing. It was not him exclusively and yous knows it.
Did you even watch the game? Weeden was off all day and even the cardinals said they come out in the second half focusing on stopping murray and forcing weeden to beat them. Someone should of put beasely in a hunters vest across the middle. They were playing 8 in the box and daring us to throw. He played poorly.
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I'm curious to know how he looks in practice. My guess is he either practices better than playing in real games or the defense isn't going full speed in practices where he can get exposed.
He looked like an undrafted rookie on his first NFL start today. Maybe worse.
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I also saw that, he was slow in getting the ball out after the WR made their cuts. Romo would have release the ball at the same time as the cut giving the wr some separation. The throw to Written along the sideline was way short for the interception. Either that was a slow read or inaccurate as he _ _!
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Weeden should not be in the NFL. Or the QB coach who is coaching him should be fired. Seriously.
There is a thing called progression. If he can't make reads to which receiver to go to than he doesn't belong in the NFL. I blame Weeden first and foremost. Then I blame the brains who brought him here without giving a lick on whether he can play or not and expect miracles.
I would give all the reps to Dustin Vaughn from now on. Heck I would be looking at every other team's practice squad right now on just about any QB. I don't care who. Just no Weeden. That guy absolutely sucks.
There is a thing called progression. If he can't make reads to which receiver to go to than he doesn't belong in the NFL. I blame Weeden first and foremost. Then I blame the brains who brought him here without giving a lick on whether he can play or not and expect miracles.
I would give all the reps to Dustin Vaughn from now on. Heck I would be looking at every other team's practice squad right now on just about any QB. I don't care who. Just no Weeden. That guy absolutely sucks.
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It was the consensus hear, I belief, before the game that the plan was to give the ball to Murray. Manys manys time.
How hard was that?
If Murray had 40 yards at havetime, I say let him pound the ball relentlessly ALL game and the rest of the game.
With 2 minute left in the already lost game, he was on the sidelines. For his sake at least let him rip a couple of long runs to keep his record going for this proud player. The genuses on the sideline should have let him carry all day long and discourage Weeden from thowing too much.
Romo dodged a bullet by the name of the Cardinals defense and he should thank Weeden that he took all the pressure this week while maybe Romo can relatively cruise next week in London. I think the bravados in him will make him play.
But the game plan should be so few passes that Murray could pound it as the blitz came on anyway.
Weeden gave it his best but the game plan failed him with Dez and Murray relatively marginalized. Weeden turned in a sorry performance but so did many other cowboys including our secondary so knock off the Weeden bashing. It was not him exclusively and yous knows it.
The gameplan was installed with the assumption there was a competent QB under center. I don't usually side with Garett and the coaching staff, but you have to expect your QB to be able to throw a football.
This was on Weeden. Dwayne Harris could have been behind center and ran/pitched every time with a greater effect than Weeden.
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I didn't have a problem with the gameplan. They were using bootlegs and screens to the RB's with good success early on to counter Arizona keying in on the run and to keep the percentages in their favor with Weeden throwing the ball. Eventually Arizona started to stop those passes and they were containing the run and Weeden needed to throw passes of a little longer length and was wildly incompetent. He was inaccurate all day long. And if he wasn't inaccurate directionally, he would have too much zip on the ball. And then he couldn't read the defense and find the open man. The INT to Witten was bad as Beasley was wide open underneath.
The only issue I've had with the play calling lately is that we almost pass exclusively on 2nd down the past 2 games. That needs to be split more evenly.
YR
The only issue I've had with the play calling lately is that we almost pass exclusively on 2nd down the past 2 games. That needs to be split more evenly.
YR
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I did not get to see all the game but from what I was able to see, Arizona dared them to beat them with the pass, they are pretty bad pass defense. I think the gameplan was very conservative and they wanted to limit Weeden's exposure but played into Arizona's strength. This may have been the game where they should have tried to get a "little cute". But instead with 2/5 of starting line and good run defense they decided to run into the teeth of the defense. I think that weeden never got into rhythm even against Was his pass were not always on target.
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It was the consensus hear, I belief, before the game that the plan was to give the ball to Murray. Manys manys time.
How hard was that?
If Murray had 40 yards at havetime, I say let him pound the ball relentlessly ALL game and the rest of the game.
With 2 minute left in the already lost game, he was on the sidelines. For his sake at least let him rip a couple of long runs to keep his record going for this proud player. The genuses on the sideline should have let him carry all day long and discourage Weeden from thowing too much.
Romo dodged a bullet by the name of the Cardinals defense and he should thank Weeden that he took all the pressure this week while maybe Romo can relatively cruise next week in London. I think the bravados in him will make him play.
But the game plan should be so few passes that Murray could pound it as the blitz came on anyway.
Weeden gave it his best but the game plan failed him with Dez and Murray relatively marginalized. Weeden turned in a sorry performance but so did many other cowboys including our secondary so knock off the Weeden bashing. It was not him exclusively and yous knows it.
the game plan was poor but make no mistake, Weeden was terrible - he couldn't even make easy 5 yard passes. Yes, we should have placed the game squarely on Murray's shoulders but that says as much about how good Murray is running as it does about on how bad Weeden is passing.
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Its because Colt can at least play the dink and dunk game. He would have completed short passes on the blitz all day and done decent. Weeden can't play dink and dunk because he throws every pass 100 mph. I live near Cleveland and watched the same thing with Weeden here.
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Then why is he here?
remdak
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Good question! Cowboys like those OK State players.
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It was the consensus hear, I belief, before the game that the plan was to give the ball to Murray. Manys manys time.
How hard was that?
If Murray had 40 yards at havetime, I say let him pound the ball relentlessly ALL game and the rest of the game.
With 2 minute left in the already lost game, he was on the sidelines. For his sake at least let him rip a couple of long runs to keep his record going for this proud player. The genuses on the sideline should have let him carry all day long and discourage Weeden from thowing too much.
Romo dodged a bullet by the name of the Cardinals defense and he should thank Weeden that he took all the pressure this week while maybe Romo can relatively cruise next week in London. I think the bravados in him will make him play.
But the game plan should be so few passes that Murray could pound it as the blitz came on anyway.
Weeden gave it his best but the game plan failed him with Dez and Murray relatively marginalized. Weeden turned in a sorry performance but so did many other cowboys including our secondary so knock off the Weeden bashing. It was not him exclusively and yous knows it.
The defense had them in the game until the 4th quarter with a score of 14-10 with 7 of the Cowboy points coming from the defense. Any defense was eventually going to break after the offense could run out any time and kept turning the ball over.
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I'm not making any excuses for Weeden, he was bad.
I'm trying to find the stats but am having trouble. It seemed to me like the Cowboys offense was starting to become more effective as the game went on. Like the Cards D was getting worn out, which makes sense. That's where I have a problem with the play calling, because at that point the game was was still 14-10 so it's not like they had to abandon the run.
But the last 2 games, the team has looked for 2013 like in the play calling department. I couldn't agree more with what a poster said earlier in this thread. If they aren't getting 7-8 yards on a run they seem to get discourage and immediately go pass.
Can anyone confirm the Cowboys rushing stats for the 3rd quarter and first 3 minutes of about the 4th quarter, compared to the rest of the game. Thanks
I'm trying to find the stats but am having trouble. It seemed to me like the Cowboys offense was starting to become more effective as the game went on. Like the Cards D was getting worn out, which makes sense. That's where I have a problem with the play calling, because at that point the game was was still 14-10 so it's not like they had to abandon the run.
But the last 2 games, the team has looked for 2013 like in the play calling department. I couldn't agree more with what a poster said earlier in this thread. If they aren't getting 7-8 yards on a run they seem to get discourage and immediately go pass.
Can anyone confirm the Cowboys rushing stats for the 3rd quarter and first 3 minutes of about the 4th quarter, compared to the rest of the game. Thanks
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Seems to me, once the staff saw Weeden locking in on a receiver from the snap...........put that guy (Dez) in a bunch set, in a pick play, in a stack to take off the cb press........so that Weeden can lock into the guy .......now about the accuracy problem-------well, the coaches should've seen that in preseason and practice by now, same with the constant velocity on his balls, ....in fact should've seen that in the pre-signing workout. The one fail of Will McClay?
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Just speculating, but maybe the gameplan was put together based on Weeden's ability? He showed the world he isn't very good, maybe the coaches knew this before gametime? Am i giving this coaching staff too much credit?
When you have a totally inept QB throw 36 times and give it to the NFL's leading rusher just 19 times?
Yeah, you're giving the coaching staff WAAYYY too much credit.
And not nearly the blame they truly deserve.
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the game plan was not the problem. we ran the ball early on but could'nt convert the 3rd downs. i said earlier in the wekk if we was to win this game we had to do it thru the air. this team is capable of slowing down the run game and if you want to beat them the qb has to convert 3rd downs weeden was terrible and that made it impossible to stickk to your game plan. he had single coverage all day and hit a wr once in the first 50 min of the game