Question regarding Rico

Swanny · Sep 3, 2017

joseephuss said:
How does he learn how to block on IR? He needs to do that on the field. He needs practice reps. Sure film room study can do wonders, but making his body do the movements is what he really needs.

Good point I guess he wouldn't be able to practice if he's on IR. Didn't even cross my mind. Just tough to keep a guy on your 53 that really won't contribute. But with the guys potential I would do it and just keep him inactive.

JoeKing · Sep 3, 2017

TheHerd said:
We think alike sir. I said the exact same thing.

He responded facts are factual statements and can be either true or false, but opinion or value statements are just opinions. The problem on this site is people post statements which are factual, but often not true. Opinions are never true (or false) they're just opinions.

TheHerd · Sep 3, 2017

Swanny said:
He makes my 53 only because I don't want to lose the potential the guy could be great. But now that there is a way to keep him and not count towards the 53 I thinks it's a great opportunity to keep him stashed on IR all year. I think another red shirt year would be great for him. But yes we will never know if he can play until he actually play a in a real game. I think it would be hard to get Rico to be active on game days. Having 4 active TEs on game day would mean we are running lean somewhere. Rico Would be used strictly as a redzone target where as Swaim and Hanna can be used as receivers and Blockers. I just don't see Rico really getting an opportunity until he learns how to block and I think with another redshift year it will do him wonders.

Why would Rico be only a red zone target? He looked pretty fluid on routes in the seams. It's hard to argue against his hands. And even if he's only a red zone target, what a target he is. Doesn't that help Zeke and the threat of red zone running if the defense has to dedicate at least once beefy guy to Rico? Some teams have figured out that if the TE goes a little wide, he doesn' need to block his man very well since he's already out of the play if you run. That's the bulk of the Patriot running game plan.

Rico's blocking may need work, but if Linehan is all that he can figure out a way to work around this limitation.

Or they stash him on IR. Though that could have Leary-like effects.

Swanny · Sep 3, 2017

TheHerd said:
Why would Rico be only a red zone target? He looked pretty fluid on routes in the seams. It's hard to argue against his hands. And even if he's only a red zone target, what a target he is. Doesn't that help Zeke and the threat of red zone running if the defense has to dedicate at least once beefy guy to Rico? Some teams have figured out that if the TE goes a little wide, he doesn' need to block his man very well since he's already out of the play if you run. That's the bulk of the Patriot running game plan.

Rico's blocking may need work, but if Linehan is all that he can figure out a way to work around this limitation.

Or they stash him on IR. Though that could have Leary-like effects.

I would be scared to IR for the whole season. I would be livid if I was Gathers. He obviously could be used for other things other tan redzone but it would be tough to get him on the field. With his blocking being poor Swaim and Hanna are going to be on the field over Rico

JackOfNoTrades · Sep 3, 2017

Swanny said:
Good point I guess he wouldn't be able to practice if he's on IR. Didn't even cross my mind. Just tough to keep a guy on your 53 that really won't contribute. But with the guys potential I would do it and just keep him inactive.

details on his injury have been scant. If he is truly injured and needs several weeks to recover, he should go on IR. If he physically able to play, he should be active. Yes he showed flashes but I do not see the point in an indefinite project. He either needs to get to the point where he's NFL caliber and perform the duties of his position and wasting away on IR wont get him there. There comes a point where you fish or cut bait.

TheHerd · Sep 3, 2017

Swanny said:
I would be scared to IR for the whole season. I would be livid if I was Gathers. He obviously could be used for other things other tan redzone but it would be tough to get him on the field. With his blocking being poor Swaim and Hanna are going to be on the field over Rico

Agree that getting on the field will be tough. We do have am embarrassment of riches at the offensive skill positions. If only this were Madden and we could transfer some of those points to defensive players.

I just don't want the potential Witten successor pissed off enough to leave at all costs. I don't see Swaim or Hannah as the weapon Rico could become.

Derinyar · Sep 3, 2017

The one worry I have about putting him on IR with the plan to return him is the issue of what happens if we lose two other players we can't afford to not bring back. Rico needs practice reps if he's ever going to be anything. Yes I will find it annoying to play IR games to keep Ol' Noodle Arm.

Doomsday101 · Sep 3, 2017

I think Rico has a very bright future in the NFL and I have no doubts that his future is with the Cowboys.

thisiscowboyscountry · Sep 3, 2017

Risen Star said:
8 games.

So there's at least a light at the end of the tunnel of the Witten era. Have patience.

Witten is one of the best Cowboys in history and I love how you want to push him out the door. He may not be a tight end that stretches the field regularly , but he's still a productive player that continues to get open on 3rd down.

Nightman · Sep 3, 2017

Swanny said:
Good point I guess he wouldn't be able to practice if he's on IR. Didn't even cross my mind. Just tough to keep a guy on your 53 that really won't contribute. But with the guys potential I would do it and just keep him inactive.

Why won't he contribute...... he is either worth the spot on the 53 or severely overrated.... the NFL can't have 3-4 year projects any more..... 8 weeks without practice is no beuno

He proved he is ready to play and is a terrible mismatch for some small DBs or slower LBs

Nirvana · Sep 3, 2017

I don't understand why people want to put this dude on IR all he does is make plays in the red zone. He got a bump on the head and got his rest. Let's go.

JoeKing · Sep 3, 2017

thisiscowboyscountry said:
Witten is one of the best Cowboys in history and I love how you want to push him out the door. He may not be a tight end that stretches the field regularly , but he's still a productive player that continues to get open on 3rd down.

Father time is undefeated and even the great gold jacket Witten will end his career, sooner than you wish it to happen apparently. I don't think Risen is pushing Wit out the door, just being optimistic of the TE position after Wit is gone.

links18 · Sep 3, 2017

Manwiththeplan said:
It's actually worse, they are doing this so they can add Kellen Moore...

Why in the world would someone need to go on IR for a concussion? Did Rico get brain damage or something? I'd rather they IR Hitchens if they think they must bring Moore back.

Manwiththeplan · Sep 3, 2017

links18 said:
Why in the world would someone need to go on IR for a concussion? Did Rico get brain damage or something? I'd rather they IR Hitchens if they think they must bring Moore back.

The logic behind it is, Rico either way, is not going to be active weeks 1-8 (barring an injury to the top 3). If he is still in the concussion protocol now, then they can IR him, and he can begin practicing after week 6 I believe. Then they have a certain window where he can practice before they either have to shut him down or activate him. So in essence, him not being able to practice for 6 weeks *could* open up a roster spot for someone else. However, I value Rico practicing for 6 weeks over having Kellen Moore.

DallasDomination · Sep 3, 2017

links18 said:
Why in the world would someone need to go on IR for a concussion? Did Rico get brain damage or something? I'd rather they IR Hitchens if they think they must bring Moore back.

That's what I was thinking myself. Why is Rico going on IR for a concussion? Can fhe dude not walk lol

I see the politics of it now I guess...

Tabascocat · Sep 3, 2017

DallasDomination said:
That's what I was thinking myself. Why is Rico going on IR for a concussion? Can fhe dude not walk lol

I see the politics of it now I guess...

Yea, I don't think this has anything to do with injury and more about him not being NFL ready. This IR buys them time and a roster spot for someone else.

I do not think we will see him on the active roster all season unless the TE injuries mount up.

Swanny · Sep 3, 2017

bkight13 said:
Why won't he contribute...... he is either worth the spot on the 53 or severely overrated.... the NFL can't have 3-4 year projects any more..... 8 weeks without practice is no beuno

He proved he is ready to play and is a terrible mismatch for some small DBs or slower LBs[/QUOTE
Because Swaim, Hanna and Witten will be active. It's tough going 4 active TEs on game day

links18 · Sep 3, 2017

Swanny said:
I would be scared to IR for the whole season. I would be livid if I was Gathers. He obviously could be used for other things other tan redzone but it would be tough to get him on the field. With his blocking being poor Swaim and Hanna are going to be on the field over Rico

I'd rather Rico get practice reps and maybe line him up in a few packages than banish him to IR for half the season, so we can keep a high school level QB, unless he is truly injured.

Brickman2 · Sep 3, 2017

Put Moore on PS. Problem solved. Other than still having Moore.

JackOfNoTrades · Sep 3, 2017

dexternjack said:
Yea, I don't think this has anything to do with injury and more about him not being NFL ready. This IR buys them time and a roster spot for someone else.

I do not think we will see him on the active roster all season unless the TE injuries mount up.

seems like a catch 22.....how would he become more NFL while on IR being he can't practice, etc?

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