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Dak had one of the best rookies seasons of all time. He was plenty accurate, very accurate on the move, and ran for 6 TDs.

He was generally accurate til the Atlanta game. And has rarely been since. People say Dak got figured out, but I don't think teams figure out your accuracy into crap. They figure out your offense, which is on the OC.

We should have dumped Linehan, and gotten a new OC and a real QB coach this offseason. Evaluating Dak under a poor OC coaching regime reveals little about Dak, but that he can be screwed by poor coaching.

We made the wrong call on keeping Linehan, and until we rectify that, we're not moving ahead to either improve or accurately evaluate Dak. First things first. Get a decent play caller in here.

Dak's numbers were trending down even before the Atlanta game not as bad as after that game but none the less it was there. Then they blamed it on Zeke not being there, well Zeke has been back since the Seattle game last year and even with him leading the league in rushing ths season Dak's numbers are still declining. Then it was the WR's they blamed it on (Dez is done and Witten is old was all the talk) At what point does this start to fall on the QB's shoulders? He does after all touch the ball on every single offensive play
 

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I have been a proponent of a wait-and-see approach with Prescott because he's only in his third year as a starter. I felt we'd have a better pulse on who he is as a starting quarterback by the end of this season.

I also believed that like with most quarterbacks he gets blamed when there's poor protection, receivers run bad routes or drop balls, the play-calls are bad, etc. Then, there are his 2016 performance and games like Detroit where he makes some picture-perfect passes.

The Texans' game convinced me, though, that Dak is only that type of quarterback who gives you those glimpses that make you believe he can be better than he is. We can look at dropped passes, protection breakdowns, poor play-calling and say that Dak would look like that 2016 QB if those things were fixed, but truthfully in the Houston game, he had too many passes where the receiver was open and the protection was good enough and he couldn't connect. There's just too much hit and miss in his game, and I think if we focus on the hit and ignore the miss, we're going to end up sticking with a starter who isn't good enough unless everything around him is pretty much perfect.

I'm ready at this point to see what Mike White can show before it's necessary for us to draft a quarterback in the first round next year. Yes, I skipped Cooper Rush, but that's because I think Rush's ceiling is being a good backup, but he doesn't have the zip to be a starter.

I know some will believe I'm overreacting to a bad performance, but there's been too much InDakuracy last year and this year. It's no longer about who Dak might can become, it's about who he is.
Not going to happen. Jerry just said on 105.3 The Fan that he absolutely believes, without a doubt, that Dak is a franchise QB for years to come.

So there ya go Zoners.
 

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I have been a proponent of a wait-and-see approach with Prescott because he's only in his third year as a starter. I felt we'd have a better pulse on who he is as a starting quarterback by the end of this season.

I also believed that like with most quarterbacks he gets blamed when there's poor protection, receivers run bad routes or drop balls, the play-calls are bad, etc. Then, there are his 2016 performance and games like Detroit where he makes some picture-perfect passes.

The Texans' game convinced me, though, that Dak is only that type of quarterback who gives you those glimpses that make you believe he can be better than he is. We can look at dropped passes, protection breakdowns, poor play-calling and say that Dak would look like that 2016 QB if those things were fixed, but truthfully in the Houston game, he had too many passes where the receiver was open and the protection was good enough and he couldn't connect. There's just too much hit and miss in his game, and I think if we focus on the hit and ignore the miss, we're going to end up sticking with a starter who isn't good enough unless everything around him is pretty much perfect.

I'm ready at this point to see what Mike White can show before it's necessary for us to draft a quarterback in the first round next year. Yes, I skipped Cooper Rush, but that's because I think Rush's ceiling is being a good backup, but he doesn't have the zip to be a starter.

I know some will believe I'm overreacting to a bad performance, but there's been too much InDakuracy last year and this year. It's no longer about who Dak might can become, it's about who he is.
Preaching to the choir here been saying this since his rookie year. The guy is averaging less than 225 passing yards a game for his career. Those numbers are not starting numbers in today's NFL. He needs to be on the bench with a clip board in his hands watching a guy who can actually put the ball were it belongs. His rookie year he rode the same bus we all rode on and that was Zeke and the OLine dominance. There was glimpses in his rookie year he didn't have what it takes and HOF experts on every sport channel pointed this out. The kid just doesn't have the moxie to be a starter. Bench him and move on.
 

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Well if you replace Dak with another mediocre QB and then another it will be like the Ryan Leaf days.

Which is fine. All the sooner we move on from this disaster of a passing offense.

New coach, new coordinator, new quarterback....let's go.

Either get to the top of the draft, or do the Kirk Cousins thing. Something. This offensive line and running back are being wasted.
 

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Not going to happen. Jerry just said on 105.3 The Fan that he absolutely believes, without a doubt, that Dak is a franchise QB for years to come.

So there ya go Zoners.
What else is he going to say? That means nothing.
 

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Sure he was.

But the supporting cast this year is NOWHERE CLOSE to what Dak had in 2016.

Also, thrusting Dak into the starting role, hasn’t really worked out for him long term.

White is better off learning and growing from the sidelines. As far as long term potential is concerned.

Fair enough i will agree that the offensive supporting cast was much better in 2016 than it is now (our D this season is much much better than the 2016 D), but doesn't that statement point a little bit to what alot say around here, that everything has to be perfect for our QB to succeed?
 

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Which is fine. All the sooner we move on from this disaster of a passing offense.

New coach, new coordinator, new quarterback....let's go.

Either get to the top of the draft, or do the Kirk Cousins thing. Something. This offensive line and running back are being wasted.
The RB is being wasted. The OL I think needs some rebuilding. But I'm all for the New coach, coordinator and QB. Been waiting for a new coach since those 8-8 seasons when we lost to a different division rival each year in a win or go home game.
 

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And let’s not forget that the metrics showed that the OL issue and the drops issue was overblown.
 

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Fair enough i will agree that the offensive supporting cast was much better in 2016 than it is now (our D this season is much much better than the 2016 D), but doesn't that statement point a little bit to what alot say around here, that everything has to be perfect for our QB to succeed?

Correct. Don’t get me wrong. I want a talented prospect in here badly this off season.
 

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His rookie year was ugly the last 6 games. The downfall started long before the Atlanta game.

He is dreadful.

This is easily debunked by pulling up the stats, or you know, actually watching the games down the stretch during that season.

But having that argument is pointless now considering the circumstances.
 

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I have been a proponent of a wait-and-see approach with Prescott because he's only in his third year as a starter. I felt we'd have a better pulse on who he is as a starting quarterback by the end of this season.

I also believed that like with most quarterbacks he gets blamed when there's poor protection, receivers run bad routes or drop balls, the play-calls are bad, etc. Then, there are his 2016 performance and games like Detroit where he makes some picture-perfect passes.

The Texans' game convinced me, though, that Dak is only that type of quarterback who gives you those glimpses that make you believe he can be better than he is. We can look at dropped passes, protection breakdowns, poor play-calling and say that Dak would look like that 2016 QB if those things were fixed, but truthfully in the Houston game, he had too many passes where the receiver was open and the protection was good enough and he couldn't connect. There's just too much hit and miss in his game, and I think if we focus on the hit and ignore the miss, we're going to end up sticking with a starter who isn't good enough unless everything around him is pretty much perfect.

I'm ready at this point to see what Mike White can show before it's necessary for us to draft a quarterback in the first round next year. Yes, I skipped Cooper Rush, but that's because I think Rush's ceiling is being a good backup, but he doesn't have the zip to be a starter.

I know some will believe I'm overreacting to a bad performance, but there's been too much InDakuracy last year and this year. It's no longer about who Dak might can become, it's about who he is.

I don't agree with playing White this early in the season, but I agree with your overall assessment of Dak. Sigh.
 

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Not going to happen. Jerry just said on 105.3 The Fan that he absolutely believes, without a doubt, that Dak is a franchise QB for years to come.

So there ya go Zoners.
if he believes that then I hope they hire a real OC and QB coach...and draft a WR.
had a bad feeling when he made that rams statement that there went our 1st Rd QB.
 

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This is easily debunked by pulling up the stats, or you know, actually watching the games down the stretch during that season.

But having that argument is pointless now considering the circumstances.
That's one problem I have with some who have been bashing Dak from the beginning. He was great in 2016. Never saw a problem. I go by what my eyes tell me. I still think a lot of that were Romo fans hurt because Tony wasn't given his job back.
 
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