The Dak Prescott love thread

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One of the dumbest arguments people use to prove Dak can't play is the "he needs a perfect team". Yet, I don't hear that about Goff who has a stacked team around him, or Ben Roethlisberger or Brady who have stacked teams or Brees who's team is stacked.

What good QB has a poor team around him?
 

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No doubt there was at least a couple throws you can’t miss in the NFL like the deep one to Cooper when he had separation. I’m not sure I see that on coaching or scheme as much as timing and accuracy which is more on the QB.

In the end QB’s are measure by winning which his 11 game winning wave is what steered his future here. And this was a signature win for Dak. The kind of bus driving that could lead to better things.

I’ve been a staunch critic of Dak but accolades are deserving after last nights performance.

Ive seen Tony missed some passes like that too. So saying that all QBs in the NFL should easily make that pass is paradoxical. Its nothing more than Collinsworth mouthing off anything with Dak. He did that quite a bit with Tony too.
 

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One of the dumbest arguments people use to prove Dak can't play is the "he needs a perfect team". Yet, I don't hear that about Goff who has a stacked team around him, or Ben Roethlisberger or Brady who have stacked teams or Brees who's team is stacked.

What good QB has a poor team around him?


Yeah thats a silly argument. Dak has probably one of the worst set of receivers in the NFL. Not until Cooper came on board. He certainly has the worst set of TEs in the NFL. As for the oline, they have been atrocious blocking well for him. Thus the firing of their online coach, Paul Alexander. Lastly, Garrett and Linehan are one of the worst coaches on offense. Top that off with possibly the worst QB coach the NFL has ever seen - Kellen Moore. Take that all in and no wonder Dak is not performing up to his abilities.

People blame him for everything and keep saying that he needs to be in a perfect system. While the other QBs are stacked with talent.
 

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Yeah thats a silly argument. Dak has probably one of the worst set of receivers in the NFL. Not until Cooper came on board. He certainly has the worst set of TEs in the NFL. As for the oline, they have been atrocious blocking well for him. Thus the firing of their online coach, Paul Alexander. Lastly, Garrett and Linehan are one of the worst coaches on offense. Top that off with possibly the worst QB coach the NFL has ever seen - Kellen Moore. Take that all in and no wonder Dak is not performing up to his abilities.

People blame him for everything and keep saying that he needs to be in a perfect system. While the other QBs are stacked with talent.
I'll never understand it. And yeah when I said one of the worst cores.....that was prior to Cooper. With Cooper this unit looks completely different. All of a sudden receivers are getting separation and guys aren't dropping balls.
 

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Impossible to have regression? What NFL are you watching?



All I care about is the W. When it was time to score in the clutch between Wentz and Dak only one of them was able to do it. The other was able to choke like he continues do.
It was only one game and an outlier at that. Dak has been horrible this season.
 

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It was only one game and an outlier at that. Dak has been horrible this season.
Dak has been horrible but he has proven to step it up when he has to if the game is close enough in the 4th and the defense is getting stops. Wentz.....he's been a pretty good fantasy player.
 

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Dak has been horrible but he has proven to step it up when he has to if the game is close enough in the 4th and the defense is getting stops. Wentz.....he's been a pretty good fantasy player.
There is a reason he is undrafted in most fantasy football leagues... he is not reliable. He relies on too many other factors before he "steps it up" He not the guy that will put the team on his shoulders and go get a win. I give him credit for his leadership but he is leading the Cowboys nowhere.
 

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Ive seen Tony missed some passes like that too. So saying that all QBs in the NFL should easily make that pass is paradoxical. Its nothing more than Collinsworth mouthing off anything with Dak. He did that quite a bit with Tony too.
And I was a critic of Romo too.
 

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Been reviewing all your love dak post here....hey bud just Pray and Pray hard that Zeke can run or else not even you will be able at some point to excuse the Panic Dak....you are supporting a lost cause remember this statement as it will be true to form only a matter of time till he is benched and out of the NFL....
I was allegedly wrong about my boy J--Train too and my boy Beastley.. They both turned out to be just fine.

So I have little worry about Dak turning it around. Even if he has to do it by himself.
 

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In effect, I am not giving credit to Dak for being a good QB, but rather giving it to the players around him. IF the players are great, then Dak shines. If they are not, he cant hold them up and his play is bad. And although I think to some degree this is the same of most QB's, it appears more so for Dak.

Very very simple stuff.

There are also guys paid to figure out Garretts predictable offense. They are called DC's. Every team has one.
other QBs, good ones...lift the players around them and make them better than they are...Dak doesn't do that...when there are good players around him, he can safely drive the bus....
 

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Dak has had good coaching dating back to his college days. His rookie season was not normal for him at all. He has had the same faults throughout his career since high school. He was not a good passer in college because he had the same faults that he is showing every game in the NFL. He will never return to playing at the same level tat we saw his rookie season. He has a few great moments every game but they are not as frequent as his bad plays. Dallas will never be a playoff contender as long as he is the starting QB. He is what he is, kinda like Tebow. No amount of coaching can make him a consistent QB. The worse thing that could happen to Dallas is for Jerry to sign him to a long term extension as the starting QB. I don’t think NFL teams are going to line up wanting to sign him as their starting QB. Dak has one decent game and fans forget about the ten games where he sucked. He was an inaccurate QB that took care of the ball. Now he can’t even do that. His fumbles is his own fault and no amount of coaching can make up for his mental flaws. He is a great kid with limited talent.
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been arguing the same...everyone is hung up on the 2016 season, but he had the same flaws then as he has now, except everything around him was perfect that year....we would easily be 6-2 with a decent QB and put Brees on this team and we are 8-1. instead we pitter putter to 4-5.

some of his flaws may be fixed, like please please please set your feet when you throw, instead of throwing like a basketball jump ball.

and to your point, its about consistency...even elite QBs make mistakes, but over all they make more good/great plays than bad ones....good QBs, the same...and the Dak lovers point to the periods he looks good, but they are far and few in between....he doesn't consistently play at that level..... even in 2016, he wasn't elite. he was 19th in passing yards. the team leaned and leaned heavily on Zeke.
 

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I was allegedly wrong about my boy J--Train too and my boy Beastley.. They both turned out to be just fine.

So I have little worry about Dak turning it around. Even if he has to do it by himself.[/QUOTE]

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One of the dumbest arguments people use to prove Dak can't play is the "he needs a perfect team". Yet, I don't hear that about Goff who has a stacked team around him, or Ben Roethlisberger or Brady who have stacked teams or Brees who's team is stacked.

What good QB has a poor team around him?
It is a dumb argument. Ask why Romo didn't win anything and see what the responses are. The double standards will be very apparent.
 

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Dak Prescott is an average quarterback. He played well against a bad Eagles defense. He'll revert back to his sub-200 yard passing game once he faces a good offense with a decent defense and has to play from behind.

I rewatched the tape and saw nothing special from Cowboys offense regarding play design. They ran the ball very effectively and Prescott took what the defense gave him. Dinked and dunked all game with a couple of 20-yard completions sprinkled into his stat sheet. A couple of deep throws that went nowhere. Could not scramble for more 5 yards.

I said in another thread before the game that Eagles defense is suspect. I saw only 2 designed blitzes dialed up by Jim Schwartz all game. TWO!!!!

None of us are professional coaches, but look at this play and tell me how any of this makes sense. It's 3rd & 2 in the second quarter and Schwartz dials up a blitz for the first time in the game.

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Looks like he's blitzing 7 and playing man-to-man coverage on the back end. But look at the way he positions the secondary. They're playing 7-10 yards off the receivers. Anyone with half a brain can see that Prescott will take a 3-step drop and will try to get rid of the ball to avoid the pressure. Wide receivers will cut their routes short to compensate. There is no threat of deep throw because QB will not have time to take a 7-step drop. CB's need to be in WR's face and jamming them at the line of scrimmage.

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Cole Beasly ran a quick 5-yard out route and picked up the first down.

Jim Schwartz is so bad that it's infuriating. His defensive philosophy is to bring pressure with 4 rushers and drop back 7 into coverage. It's fine when it works, but he is incapable of adapting and switching things up when it doesn't. The D-line faces a new offensive line every week. Some offensive linemen are weak against a speed rush, others against bull rush. Guys like DE Chris Long are speed rushers. He is not capable of pushing a tackle backwards, but instead tried to beat him with a speed rush. Against a slow tackle he has great games. But if he faces a tackle with quick feet, you can watch an entire game without hearing Chris Long's name. And that's how the Eagles defensive line has been all year. There are games where it completely destroy the opposing offense with 4 rushers. Other times they can't sack a QB to save their lives.

But at the very bottom, what really irks me about Jim Schwartz is that he doesn't even try to disguise his defense. Even if he plans to send 4 rushers, he will never show a blitz to confuse an offense and drop everyone into coverage. Look at the Cowboys game. He lined up 4 pass rushers all day and Cowboys offensive line didn't have to make any shifts or adjustments all game long. Cowboys had a backup center playing and he was never challenged to change protection.

Eagles fans will drive Jim Schwartz out of town by the end of the year. That's a promise.
 

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A QB gets worse from his rookie season to his 3rd with no injuries? No that is completely stupid. Its actually impossible.

No, it's not "actually impossible" - Regression happens - what Dak may have applied on the field, he may not now. You know, in terms of mechanics and footwork.

Now, do I think that he got worse? No, because I think he has always sucked. What we are seeing is just more exposed now that he doesn't have a dominant offense around him.

But this talk that regression is impossible is just utter stupidity. Just log off for the day.
 

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Impossible to have regression? What NFL are you watching?



All I care about is the W. When it was time to score in the clutch between Wentz and Dak only one of them was able to do it. The other was able to choke like he continues do.

Wentz was going up against a solid defense, while Dak was going up against one that is beat up or just outright bad in the secondary.
 
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