Cowboys Break 5/1 (Interesting Nugget On SS Donovan Wilson)

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Biggest nuggett (50:00):


Donovan Wilson

Nick: Kavon Frazier, that's what he looks like to me. Big guy..

Broaddus: I broke down a play today for the show. He's playing in the middle of the field and they run a route inside. He reads the slant all the way. He drives with really an off hand play, I think gosh if he can come in here and do that.

Helman: Didn't you say that coverage is really not his strong suit?

Broaddus: No and that's something but when the scouts use the term click and close, is when they backpedal and they hit and go. He's got that ability though to come forward. When you talk to the scouts about him they are like, they think they stole one. Chris Hall....

Helman: Chris Hall was in this seat and said that was his pet cat from this class. Will McClay is coming in tomorrow, he did an interview with Calvin Watkins of the athletic and said this guy has Kam Chancellor like traits.

Nick: What?

Broaddus: (sarcastically) Alvin Kamara, Kam Chancellor, Super Bowl for the Cowboys...get ready.

Helman: I saw Will on the training table. I asked do I have this right, I don't want to say this if it's not what you meant. And he's like no that's what I meant. He's saying I'm not saying the kids Chancellor. I'm saying he's got those type of traits. And I'm like, you realize that you're the one who runs the draft board and when you say that, it carries a lot of weight. And he's like sue me basically. That's just how I feel. And I'm like ok man. Just telling you you're comparing this kid to Kam Chancellor. I have on good authority that Kris Richard was handing out bear hugs in the war room when this kid got picked. So again this is the time of year for crazy optimism. I'm not telling you should believe things that are coming out of these peoples' mouths really but that's how they feel.


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Amazing accuracy on the written podcast. I listened to the Break yesterday.

Great post thank you.

I only agree with Nick in the sense Donovan is comparable to Frazier as an low prospect but they have different straits and body type
 

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Obviously he'll have to be coached up but all of our draft picks will. I like his chances with Greg Jackson and Richard doing the coaching.
 

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Biggest nuggett (50:00):


Donovan Wilson

Nick: Kavon Frazier, that's what he looks like to me. Big guy..

Broaddus: I broke down a play today for the show. He's playing in the middle of the field and they run a route inside. He reads the slant all the way. He drives with really an off hand play, I think gosh if he can come in here and do that.

Helman: Didn't you say that coverage is really not his strong suit?

Broaddus: No and that's something but when the scouts use the term click and close, is when they backpedal and they hit and go. He's got that ability though to come forward. When you talk to the scouts about him they are like, they think they stole one. Chris Hall....

Helman: Chris Hall was in this seat and said that was his pet cat from this class. Will McClay is coming in tomorrow, he did an interview with Calvin Watkins of the athletic and said this guy has Kam Chancellor like traits.

Nick: What?

Broaddus: (sarcastically) Alvin Kamara, Kam Chancellor, Super Bowl for the Cowboys...get ready.

Helman: I saw Will on the training table. I asked do I have this right, I don't want to say this if it's not what you meant. And he's like no that's what I meant. He's saying I'm not saying the kids Chancellor. I'm saying he's got those type of traits. And I'm like, you realize that you're the one who runs the draft board and when you say that, it carries a lot of weight. And he's like sue me basically. That's just how I feel. And I'm like ok man. Just telling you you're comparing this kid to Kam Chancellor. I have on good authority that Kris Richard was handing out bear hugs in the war room when this kid got picked. So again this is the time of year for crazy optimism. I'm not telling you should believe things that are coming out of these peoples' mouths really but that's how they feel.



 

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I spoke with a reliable Aggie fan a few days ago regarding Wilson.

“He had a really good junior year. He regressed a little his senior year. His best case scenario is to be the next honey badger. He’s fast and can lay some big hits for his size. Pretty good in coverage.”
 

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Do people really confuse traits vs potential vs productuon? A lot of players had similar traits to Emmitt but that does not mean they had his potential much less the results.

Most of them are just trolling when they claim McClay compared him directly to Chancellor as opposed to comparing traits.
 

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Biggest nuggett (50:00):


Donovan Wilson

Nick: Kavon Frazier, that's what he looks like to me. Big guy..

Broaddus: I broke down a play today for the show. He's playing in the middle of the field and they run a route inside. He reads the slant all the way. He drives with really an off hand play, I think gosh if he can come in here and do that.

Helman: Didn't you say that coverage is really not his strong suit?

Broaddus: No and that's something but when the scouts use the term click and close, is when they backpedal and they hit and go. He's got that ability though to come forward. When you talk to the scouts about him they are like, they think they stole one. Chris Hall....

Helman: Chris Hall was in this seat and said that was his pet cat from this class. Will McClay is coming in tomorrow, he did an interview with Calvin Watkins of the athletic and said this guy has Kam Chancellor like traits.

Nick: What?

Broaddus: (sarcastically) Alvin Kamara, Kam Chancellor, Super Bowl for the Cowboys...get ready.

Helman: I saw Will on the training table. I asked do I have this right, I don't want to say this if it's not what you meant. And he's like no that's what I meant. He's saying I'm not saying the kids Chancellor. I'm saying he's got those type of traits. And I'm like, you realize that you're the one who runs the draft board and when you say that, it carries a lot of weight. And he's like sue me basically. That's just how I feel. And I'm like ok man. Just telling you you're comparing this kid to Kam Chancellor. I have on good authority that Kris Richard was handing out bear hugs in the war room when this kid got picked. So again this is the time of year for crazy optimism. I'm not telling you should believe things that are coming out of these peoples' mouths really but that's how they feel.


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I assume he meant in terms of skill set and the like, because physically, there isn't much comparison. Wilson is 6-0, less than 200 and Chancellor was 6-3, 230 behemoth of a man back in 2010 when Seattle drafted him.
From what I've read, a better comparison would be the Honey Badger. They actually met while Wilson was in high school.
 

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He played way too deep in some clips watched and too bad angles and wiffed repeatedly,hopefully they try him closer to the LOS.

I think they will. We use more Cover 1 and Cover 3 than Cover 2, so the SS will play more short zone where he's playing forward instead of chasing.
 

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From what I've read, a better comparison would be the Honey Badger. They actually met while Wilson was in high school.
Is you member name a reference to the rock music group Blind Faith?
 

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Wilson had a nice career at A&M. He didn't play in 2017 due to injury. When he came back in 2018 he was playing for a new coach in Jimbo Fisher and a new defensive scheme. He still managed 66 tackles (second on the team), 4.5 TFL, 2 sacks, 2 INTs, 3 PBU, and a FF. The kid had 5 INTs his sophomore year. Even more impressive was 13 INTs at Woodland High as a senior. He was a team captain, and won the Aggie Heart and Defensive Leadership Awards. RKG a go go.
 

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Wilson had a nice career at A&M. He didn't play in 2017 due to injury. When he came back in 2018 he was playing for a new coach in Jimbo Fisher and a new defensive scheme. He still managed 66 tackles (second on the team), 4.5 TFL, 2 sacks, 2 INTs, 3 PBU, and a FF. The kid had 5 INTs his sophomore year. Even more impressive was 13 INTs at Woodland High as a senior. He was a team captain, and won the Aggie Heart and Defensive Leadership Awards. RKG a go go.

He's very unpolished but he has the tools to be a SS in the Dallas defensive scheme. Richard seems to like him.
 

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I think they will. We use more Cover 1 and Cover 3 than Cover 2, so the SS will play more short zone where he's playing forward instead of chasing.

The Kris Richard base defense is a hybrid.

He mixes in other coverages but I'll call his base defense the KR or Seattle defense.

In the KR defense, the outside CBs play man or zone depending on the WRs response off the snap.

The CB forces the WR to commit inside/outside using the unique Kick-Step Press technique.

If the WR commits outside then the CB plays man. If the WR commits inside then the CB plays zone and drops back to cover the intermediate/deep sideline area.

Regardless, with either option the CB is basically covering the sideline area.

With the CBs covering the sideline area, the single-high Safety has less area to cover than in standard single-high coverages.

The players other than the CBs play zone in the KR base.

There are many things that I really like about this coverage.

One simple benefit is that outside CBs don't get caught in between the WR at intermediate depth and a RB in the flat like often happens in other zone coverages. If the CB plays man then the WR is not being released inside which makes an inside zone player available to cover the RB. If the WR releases inside then the CB is free to come up and cover the RB.

Another benefit is that the Kick-Step press technique that forces the WR to commit inside/outside makes the reads easier/quicker for the single-high Safety.

The downside is that the Kick-Step Press is opposite of what most CBs have been taught. If it is not properly and consistently executed, then the entire scheme falls apart.

Last season they limited how much they played it because it took time for Awuzie to get comfortable with it. Jones was executing it quite well in training camp but Awuzie took about half the season before he was really executing it properly.

The scheme is more complicated than my explanation but it really solves some weaknesses that are inherent in other schemes if the CB execute it consistently.

Jourdon Lewis college playing style (exaggerated trail technique) was at the far opposite end of the spectrum from the KR CB coverage style. Lack of length was not the only reason Lewis didn't play more.

When Lewis did play, they put him in a position to succeed while playing his style.
 

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I watched a lot of film of A&M's 2016 defense and I really, really liked Donovan Wilson. I didn't see Kam Chancellor, I saw (a poor man's) Honey Badger. A&M had 4 future NFL players in that secondary.

As mentioned, Kam is huge (6'3"/232). Donovan Wilson is listed at 6'1"/207 so he's bigger than Tyrann Mathieu, but he played that same slot/nickel safety spot that is becoming its own position. I only saw a few of games this last year, but he did have a game-winning INT against Arkansas, which reminded me of his 2016 film, where he was always around the ball. I like his roster chances over Kavon Frazier.
 

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I may be in the minority here, but one of my favorite picks
He was the first player we drafted this year that I didn't wince at.

I understand the upside of Hill and the value of McGovern, but was hoping for other guys at those picks.
 

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The Kris Richard base defense is a hybrid.

He mixes in other coverages but I'll call his base defense the KR or Seattle defense.

In the KR defense, the outside CBs play man or zone depending on the WRs response off the snap.

The CB forces the WR to commit inside/outside using the unique Kick-Step Press technique.

If the WR commits outside then the CB plays man. If the WR commits inside then the CB plays zone and drops back to cover the intermediate/deep sideline area.

Regardless, with either option the CB is basically covering the sideline area.

With the CBs covering the sideline area, the single-high Safety has less area to cover than in standard single-high coverages.

The players other than the CBs play zone in the KR base.

There are many things that I really like about this coverage.

One simple benefit is that outside CBs don't get caught in between the WR at intermediate depth and a RB in the flat like often happens in other zone coverages. If the CB plays man then the WR is not being released inside which makes an inside zone player available to cover the RB. If the WR releases inside then the CB is free to come up and cover the RB.

Another benefit is that the Kick-Step press technique that forces the WR to commit inside/outside makes the reads easier/quicker for the single-high Safety.

The downside is that the Kick-Step Press is opposite of what most CBs have been taught. If it is not properly and consistently executed, then the entire scheme falls apart.

Last season they limited how much they played it because it took time for Awuzie to get comfortable with it. Jones was executing it quite well in training camp but Awuzie took about half the season before he was really executing it properly.

The scheme is more complicated than my explanation but it really solves some weaknesses that are inherent in other schemes if the CB execute it consistently.

Jourdon Lewis college playing style (exaggerated trail technique) was at the far opposite end of the spectrum from the KR CB coverage style. Lack of length was not the only reason Lewis didn't play more.

When Lewis did play, they put him in a position to succeed while playing his style.
This is an excellent post. Very informative. Thank you!
 
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