Eagles signed LBer Zack Brown

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Southern0005 said:
Coaching and ownership for starters. Jason isn't allowed to call plays who wants a coach like that and Jerry can't just shut up and own the team. He needs his mitts on every move and mouth on every POD cast talking about how good they could be just to fail, the Eagles owner is ghost and stands back like should and lets the GM he hired handle it ...relevant winning seasons, legit playoff wins (not just beating a bad seahawks team and then getting ran over by a back up rb the next week),Superbowl in the last 20+ years , not to mention the culture is better. Eagles are focused on winning games ....Dallas is has always been revenue focused and the salary cap keeps them from buying anymore rings they have to earn them now. Eagles win a SuperBowl and Dallas says "so we are most lucrative franchise, America's team plus we dem doys". Stay big mad and prove me wrong.
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Southern0005 said:
Coaching and ownership for starters...relevant winning seasons, legit playoff wins (not just beating a bad seahawks team and then getting ran over by a back up rb the next week),Superbowl in the last 20+ years , not to mention the culture is better. Eagles are focused on winning games ....Dallas is has always been revenue focused and the salary cap keeps them from buying anymore rings they have to earn them now. Eagles win a SuperBowl and Dallas says "so we are most lucrative franchise, America's team plus we dem doys". Stay big mad and prove me wrong.
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So Dallas and other teams are not focused on winning? That is a stupid statement.
So the Eagles finally win a SB, and that makes them the better team and franchise and all that. Don't think so. Not saying Dallas is that either. But recent success does not mean they are overall better.

But hey, go ahead and tell yourself that, as I won't ty to convince you otherwise.
But I will give you credit for actually posting your reasons, and I will not argue against them other than what I already posted.
These type of post are good, as to just a drive by post. Those are the ones I do not like.

I was going to give you a like from your 1st 2 statement. But getting into culture and the focused on winning games, you lost me there.
 
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He's one of the those players you wonder why from the outside they never got a long term deal. Cause he is a good linebacker, or was due to the rapid declination of talent that can happen in the NFL.

Like mentioned above wonder if it was him being a headcase or something.
 

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A bad Seahawks team? What? They were legit dark horses to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl. Put the Cowboys down all you want, but you have to give praise where due. They beat a very talented Seahawks team.
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That team was so far from talented almost rebuilding ....they was injury riddled to the brim, had a bad line and no ET. Lol @ Darkhorse they literally squeaked in because someone had to win games in their division besides Rams. They have SF/Cards .. and an easy schedule.
 
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physically gifted but lacks the want to at times. That's been his M.O. He is best suited for spot duty in certain packages...NOT STARTING. So this is a nonstory really.
 
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While trying to not get banned, I think politics absolutely plays a role in why some players may not look at the Cowboys as a destination unless Jerry pays out the nose, which we know they don't do in FA anyway. For example, Malcolm Jenkins in Philadelphia is pretty socially active. He gave an interview a few years back when the ownership/players on the field politics thing collided. He admitted that he'd be reluctant to sign with certain teams based on how their ownership and front office allow expression, etc. He said there are a few players that feel that way.

I doubt the number is significant but I suspect there are players who would be reluctant to sign here given what Jerry stands for. The converse to that is the Cowboys likely won't sign players for similar reasons.
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All of that means nothing. It does not mean one teams culture is any better than another. It is a matter of preference to them for personal reasons. Nothing more. But if the money was enough, they would sign. I mean if Jerry and other owners are all about money, so are the players, it has been proven over and over.
 
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All of that means nothing. It does not mean one teams culture is any better than another. It is a matter of preference to them for personal reasons. Nothing more. But if the money was enough, they would sign. I mean if Jerry and other owners are all about money, so are the players, it has been proven over and over.
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we cant sign everyone I guess is the moral of the story...PLUS...the dude wouldn't even see light of day on our roster due to the log jam of talent we already have at the position. Good for the iggles...they got a spot duty guy.. YAY.
 

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So Dallas and other teams are not focused on winning? That is a stupid statement.
So the Eagles finally win a SB, and that makes them the better team and franchise and all that. Don't think so. Not saying Dallas is that either. But recent success does not mean they are overall better.

But hey, go ahead and tell yourself that, as I won't ty to convince you otherwise.
But I will give you credit for actually posting your reasons, and I will not argue against them other than what I already posted.
These type of post are good, as to just a drive by post. Those are the ones I do not like.

I was going to give you a like from your 1st 2 statement. But getting into culture and the focused on winning games, you lost me there.
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The culture I mean is the Jones culture. Never was a Cowboys culture its a Jones family culture. No good coach wants to be involved in that. If Jerry was dead set on winning he would hand the keys over to some one able to win. Maybe even hire a real coach he trusts ...not a puppet that he can take to family dinner that nods his head yes to everything he is asked and claps when they bring the food.
 
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Southern0005 said:
The culture I mean is the Jones culture. Never was a Cowboys culture its a Jones family culture. No good coach wants to be involved in that. If Jerry was dead set on winning he would hand the keys over to some one able to win. Maybe even hire a real coach he trusts ...not a puppet that he can take to family dinner that nods his head yes to everything he is asked and claps when they bring the food.
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whatever dude, you just hate Jerry.
Typical crap.
You have no idea how that culture is. Unless you worked or seen it 1st hand.

I know a lady that her fiancé worked in the FO for Jerry during the 90's. Unfortunately he was killed in an accident. He had 3 SB rings from them. She has one of them, and has shown it to me. She still keeps it in a Safety Deposit box.

She showed me pictures and told me stories from Jerry's Christmas parties for the team at his house. She says it at least at that time was a great atmosphere. He is very loyal to everyone that works for the team, and players.

You can believe or not, I really don't care. But unless you can state why you are correct first hand, then just be quiet.
So why did Parcells come here if no coach wants to be a puppet coach? I would bet Jason tells Jerry very strongly his opinions. Noy just sit back and says ok Jerry.
After all, if it is a Jones' culture and Garrett is part of that. Then wouldn't as family members often do speak up to each other.
 
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yeah...Jerry Jones culture issues are less and less of an issue these days because me thinks the front office is more or less pushing him to the background. It has been very telling. He's more of a pitch man these days than a meat and potatoes guy. The day to day ops are left to others. Stevie has delegated much of that t others..THANK GOD. lol
 
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whatever dude, you just hate Jerry.
Typical crap.
You have no idea how that culture is. Unless you worked or seen it 1st hand.

I know a lady that her fiancé worked in the FO for Jerry during the 90's. Unfortunately he was killed in an accident. He had 3 SB rings from them. She has one of them, and has shown it to me. She still keeps it in a Safety Deposit box.

She showed me pictures and told me stories from Jerry's Christmas parties for the team at his house. She says it at least at that time was a great atmosphere. He is very loyal to everyone that works for the team, and players.

You can believe or not, I really don't care. But unless you can state why you are correct first hand, then just be quiet.
So why did Parcells come here if no coach wants to be a puppet coach? I would bet Jason tells Jerry very strongly his opinions. Noy just sit back and says ok Jerry.
After all, if it is a Jones' culture and Garrett is part of that. Then wouldn't as family members often do speak up to each other.
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exactly. Winning, I will say, makes all the palace intrigue meaningless.
 
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the crucial difference between us and them,they sign players to care of weak spots in their teams,we continue to neglect it for 15 years.
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20 years actually...but yes...your right. Its nuts man. Not tryin to disparage our drafts...but jeesh...what about putting more emphasis on a weak position like safety?
 

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All of that means nothing. It does not mean one teams culture is any better than another. It is a matter of preference to them for personal reasons. Nothing more. But if the money was enough, they would sign. I mean if Jerry and other owners are all about money, so are the players, it has been proven over and over.
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I never said anything about one team's culture being better or not.

But you are naive to discount the possibility that players that are socially active and have major causes they push would be reluctant to sign with an organization that has a reputation for wanting to stifle that.
 
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