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Runwildboys · May 13, 2019

Roadtrip635 said:

Of Dragons and Men

Lutonio · May 13, 2019

YosemiteSam said:
I'm going to have to go with Littlefinger. Either that or Walder Frey and house.

Oh, if we're going series wide then I have to say Oberyn.

speedkilz88 · May 13, 2019

When they kill Dany, don't they have to kill her armies as well. Grey Worm and the unsullied and the Dothraki.

Runwildboys · May 13, 2019

speedkilz88 said:
When they kill Dany, don't they have to kill her armies as well. Grey Worm and the unsullied and the Dothraki.

Not if the dragon stays loyal to the last remaining Targaryan.

Roadtrip635 · May 13, 2019

speedkilz88 said:
When they kill Dany, don't they have to kill her armies as well. Grey Worm and the unsullied and the Dothraki.

I'm still trying to figure out who Varys was writing to to tell them that Jon was the rightful heir? Who would it make a difference to that would be strong enough to warrant writing to inform them? I only came up with two sides, the letter is to all the other Houses not already involved in this battle to sway them into joining Jon's side. The other would be a huge development, the Iron Bank. Cersei and the Lannisters, and the kingdom in general were in huge debt to the Iron Bank and with the Lannister's done who pays back their loans? They would be willing to back Jon, provided he was willing to agree to pay back the money owed them by the previous ruler and it's also going to take a lot of money to rebuild. They have been a force that no House has been willing to cross and they wield considerable wealth and power. How many forces they personally have is unknown, but they do have the power to call in markers from all other houses and kingdoms which would be more than formidable. It's been said many times that the Iron Bank gets their dues.

Runwildboys · May 13, 2019

Roadtrip635 said:
I'm still trying to figure out who Varys was writing to to tell them that Jon was the rightful heir? Who would it make a difference to that would be strong enough to warrant writing to inform them? I only came up with two sides, the letter is to all the other Houses not already involved in this battle to sway them into joining Jon's side. The other would be a huge development, the Iron Bank. Cersei and the Lannisters, and the kingdom in general were in huge debt to the Iron Bank and with the Lannister's done who pays back their loans? They would be willing to back Jon, provided he was willing to agree to pay back the money owed them by the previous ruler and it's also going to take a lot of money to rebuild. They have been a force that no House has been willing to cross and they wield considerable wealth and power. How many forces they personally have is unknown, but they do have the power to call in markers from all other houses and kingdoms which would be more than formidable. It's been said many times that the Iron Bank gets their dues.

Maybe it was intended for the people of Winterfell. Maybe we'll find out, if the little bird reaches her destination.

Roadtrip635 · May 13, 2019

Runwildboys said:
Maybe it was intended for the people of Winterfell. Maybe we'll find out, if the little bird reaches her destination.

That's all over Winterfell by now, Sansa be at the beauty shop saying "you didn't hear it from me, but............"

nobody · May 13, 2019

Roadtrip635 said:
I'm still trying to figure out who Varys was writing to to tell them that Jon was the rightful heir? Who would it make a difference to that would be strong enough to warrant writing to inform them? I only came up with two sides, the letter is to all the other Houses not already involved in this battle to sway them into joining Jon's side. The other would be a huge development, the Iron Bank. Cersei and the Lannisters, and the kingdom in general were in huge debt to the Iron Bank and with the Lannister's done who pays back their loans? They would be willing to back Jon, provided he was willing to agree to pay back the money owed them by the previous ruler and it's also going to take a lot of money to rebuild. They have been a force that no House has been willing to cross and they wield considerable wealth and power. How many forces they personally have is unknown, but they do have the power to call in markers from all other houses and kingdoms which would be more than formidable. It's been said many times that the Iron Bank gets their dues.

Dorne

speedkilz88 · May 13, 2019

Roadtrip635 said:
I'm still trying to figure out who Varys was writing to to tell them that Jon was the rightful heir? Who would it make a difference to that would be strong enough to warrant writing to inform them? I only came up with two sides, the letter is to all the other Houses not already involved in this battle to sway them into joining Jon's side. The other would be a huge development, the Iron Bank. Cersei and the Lannisters, and the kingdom in general were in huge debt to the Iron Bank and with the Lannister's done who pays back their loans? They would be willing to back Jon, provided he was willing to agree to pay back the money owed them by the previous ruler and it's also going to take a lot of money to rebuild. They have been a force that no House has been willing to cross and they wield considerable wealth and power. How many forces they personally have is unknown, but they do have the power to call in markers from all other houses and kingdoms which would be more than formidable. It's been said many times that the Iron Bank gets their dues.

Maybe the Lord of Light witches? They were backing Dany (except for Melisandre)

Big_D · May 14, 2019

DeathMonkey said:
Dorne

I think he probably sent out a bunch dorne, river run, the vale, the lords of Westeros, the meisters... etc all the kingdoms will know the truth.

Flamma · May 14, 2019

YosemiteSam said:
Don't you love how clean that cave-in is? Never seen a cave-in that clean in my life.

Have you seen many cave ins?

Hoofbite · May 14, 2019

Roadtrip635 said:
I don't think they're dead, too anti-climatic for such major characters. I think they crawl and drag their way out of the rubble and confront Dany in the throne room, or somewhere else within the keep and there's a showdown between Dany and Cersei and Arya mopping up whoever is left. I'm thinking Cersei kills Dany in a shocker and then Arya kills Cersei while she gloats, to cross the last name off her list.

If they aren't dead, season 8 might go down as the worst final season of any television show ever broadcast.

Crawling out from hundreds or thousands of tons of stone would be the joke of all jokes.

DallasEast · May 14, 2019

Roadtrip635 said:

That is SO very wrong. :laugh:

YosemiteSam · May 14, 2019

Flamma said:
Have you seen many cave ins?

Mostly only in pictures, but I do have a very good understanding of physics. One thing I know for sure. Things only fall in a controlled fashion in a controlled environment.

DallasEast · May 14, 2019

Roadtrip635 said:

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Kevinicus · May 14, 2019

Roadtrip635 said:

The top image is a promo shot and wasn't in the episode, I imagine the 2nd was from making of footage (but am not sure). Trying to find something tiny to pick on, even if it's not true, seems to be the cool thing to do with this show now.

Roadtrip635 · May 14, 2019

Those elephants woulda come in handy.......

YosemiteSam · May 14, 2019

Runwildboys said:
Not if the dragon stays loyal to the last remaining Targaryan.

Because they fear the dragon? Gray worm, the unsullied and the Dothraki follow Dany specifically because of what she did / who she was for them, not because she is a Targaryen

DallasDomination · May 14, 2019

Deanyries wants to rule but she wants to be loved too. Once she started losing the people she cared about and her dragons started going down I knew she was going to have a meltdown. She was showing signs for a while now.

I partly blame Jon for being such a weirdo.. I mean speak up man. Grow a sack when it comes to doing what you have to. He could of just gave dany what she wanted, take one for the team. Instead he sits there like a weirdo and still follows her to the destruction of kings landing.

Everyone knows what Jon must do next episode. If he doesnt do what's right, then Jon is no real leader.

At least Varys died doing the right thing. And honestly as things sit now there is no better person to rule Westeros than Tyrion Lannister.

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