*** SPOILERS *** Game of Thrones Season 8

[DallasEast]

That's not it either.

Well crap. Now I am getting interested.

 

[Idgit]

We agree to disagree. One of the most imposing sites in the Seven Kingdoms fell and crushed an insanely defiant ruler and her idiot devoted lover brother under tons of stones. Cersei did not believe anyone would humiliate and defeat her again after blowing up her enemies in The Sept with wildfire. Cersei wanted the White Walkers, Dany and the North to wipe themselves out (illogically conceived knowing the dead were basically unstoppable).

She was proven wrong, feeling trapped by the inevitability of an inescapable death worse than drowning. The visual impact of their deaths was a scene not unlike the fall of The Wall by the Night King and Viserion. Heck. Let us compare a hypothetical end with Ramsey walking lazily off a cliff to the destruction of The Wall too. lol.

Yeah, I've had issues with a lot of the directorial decisions this season, but Cersei going out with her kingdom literally falling around her has enough poetic justice to it to satisfy me. As much as I wanted to see her have a graphic death like Joffrey's.

 

[Kevinicus]

GRRM has already stated that the show has already diverged from where the books are going several season ago. Not sure what that BS that came out two days ago is.

Well, unless he started over again. Which he has done before with books and a reason it takes him years to release a book. If he does write it to what is happening now, I won't read the books. This ending sucks.

There are differences, that doesn't mean the major moments aren't the same.

 

[Kevinicus]

Well crap. Now I am getting interested.

Nevermind, I got confused on the making of. I guess that was him, the other guy I was thinking of was shown immediately after him on the making of (which I was kind of sort of paying attention to).

 

[jsb357]

Seeing a castle that had never fallen before FALL and crush Cersei (and Jaime) seem very climactic to me.

Is this actually the case?

When I first saw the blocked passage I swear there was a hole at the top.

Upon further investigation...

Maybe?

 

[Lutonio]

So far, everyone except the Mountain and the Hound had anti-climactic deaths.

Yeah, but Qyburn had the BEST death.

 

[nobody]

There were hints throughout the series that Daenerys wasn't the most stable person. She tried to burn herself, her dragon eggs, and her deadish husband alive after all. That's just one of many little things that hint that there was something there all along.

Plus the mega-long title that she seemed to relish. She envisioned herself as a destined savior. As the story progressed, betrayals, etc fueled her paranoia (rightfully so for a while). With the rapid losses of two dragons, Jorah Mormont, Missendei, and the new love of her life (who she sacrificed a dragon for) spurning her because she was his aunt in addition to feeling like she didn't have anyone she could trust that was competent, she finally cracked and surrendered to the family madness that was showing itself with little hints the whole time. You could almost see the switch when she told Jon "Fear it is." Then as the bells were ringing, the conflict was on her face before she decided to blame everything that went wrong on Cersei and the people of King's landing and decided to make them pay to spread fear of her.

Also, keep in mind that in the books, she starts GoT at the age of 14....While the books don't show how much time has passed overall, I think it's less time than the show portrays....so she's probably still in her teens by the end (if barely). Teens aren't the most stable people to begin with, especially ones convinced of how special they are and that they are the saviors of humanity. The reason that I point this out is that since the show is based on the books, they went with the same mentality and motivations without adjusting for possible age differences.

Arya's actions/behavior in the latest episode doesn't make much sense unless the Hound had been working on her the entire way down to King's Landing and his final speech to her let it sink in.

Clegane Bowl was entertaining. I think a lot of people expected it to end up as a tie or with Sandor winning. But the way it ended... wow.

I had really hoped that they had had Jaime or Tyrion strangle Cersei. But apparently they left out that part of the prophecy in the show.

 

[FloridaRob]

I really thought cersai being pregnant would have been a significant role but it wasn't. Like a lot of things maybe it was brought in just to make us think something sinister was to happen.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Yeah, but Qyburn had the BEST death.

I'm going to have to go with Littlefinger. Either that or Walder Frey and house.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I had really hoped that they had had Jaime or Tyrion strangle Cersei. But apparently they left out that part of the prophecy in the show.

Maybe Tyrion can strangle the mush that's left after they dig them out.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Is this actually the case?

When I first saw the blocked passage I swear there was a hole at the top.

Upon further investigation...

Maybe?

Don't you love how clean that cave-in is? Never seen a cave-in that clean in my life.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

I actually like how the story has developed with Dany being the Mad Queen. A White Walkers or Cersei finale would've been too predictable. My main issue with the series is that everything seems to be very poorly executed. I'm expecting the Dany descent into madness to be much better and believable in the books.

Here are just a few examples that come to mind of pointless storylines or scenes that would've been handled much better in the earlier seasons:

• When Bran is waiting for the Night King to arrive, he tells Theon "I have to go now" and then wargs into some ravens. For what? To fly around and look at things?
• Tyrion subtly slips in "Do it for the baby" to Cersei. Euron hears this. This can be a great way to cause turmoil between Cersei and Euron because he'd wonder how Tyrion knew about the baby since they hadn't seen Tyrion since before Euron slept with Cersei. But nothing comes of it. It goes right over Euron's head.
• Cersei has the strategy to let the North deal with the White Walkers so that she can have an easy time cleaning up the leftovers. Her plan seems to work. Or does it? A depleted North is still too much for her to handle.
• They make such an effort to show how the Scorpions are the kryptonite for dragons. They also go out of their way to mention how Dany only has one dragon left. But somehow one dragon versus thousands of Scorpions is a cakewalk.

 

[Runwildboys]

I see GoT is following The 100's lead and having characters completely change their personality by 100 degrees.

You still in love @DallasEast now that you're sweetheart is a Mad Queen. (she not even nor has she ever been a queen, she is just of royal birth)

I would make scrub clean my bedpan with her bare fingers.

She's been showing signs all along, like when she killed Sam's father and brother. It's just been brushed off as that time of .....er, uncharacteristic overreactions.

 

[YosemiteSam]

She's been showing signs all along, like when she killed Sam's father and brother. It's just been brushed off as that time of .....er, uncharacteristic overreactions.

Killing Sam's father and bother for not bending the knee is not even remotely similar to what she just did to King's Landing. Hell, she even asking them with them knowing what the outcome would be if they didn't. She just started mass killing an entire city without cause. None, zip, zilch. At least she asked the Tarleys. She asked nothing of the peasants of King's Landing.

There is nothing realistic about season 8. They just trashed the ending to a great storyline.

 

[Runwildboys]

Yeah, but they were indirectly killed and not only that. The where killed together. Having Jamie kill her, or even a Dragon swallow her whole would have been infinitely better. Think Joffery. What if he just died in his sleep? Yeah, that's basically what happen to Jamie and Cersei. We will just have to agree to disagree. All that revenge that was supposed to to gotten out of her hide. They likely will never even know if she died or not because they will never find / be able to identify them.

Fire all the writers / producers / directors.

I think they wanted us to see her as human after all, crying and frightened. Also, Jamie and Cersei went out the same way they came in...together.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

I have a meme idea. Just gotta take the time to create it:

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Office Space Bobs: "What would you say it is that you do here?"

Bran: "I reveal things."

Office Space Bobs: "Like what?"

Bran: "Like that Jon Snow is the true son of Rhaegar Targaryen."

Office Space Bobs: "But can't Sam do that?"

 

[Runwildboys]

There were hints throughout the series that Daenerys wasn't the most stable person. She tried to burn herself, her dragon eggs, and her deadish husband alive after all. That's just one of many little things that hint that there was something there all along.

Plus the mega-long title that she seemed to relish. She envisioned herself as a destined savior. As the story progressed, betrayals, etc fueled her paranoia (rightfully so for a while). With the rapid losses of two dragons, Jorah Mormont, Missendei, and the new love of her life (who she sacrificed a dragon for) spurning her because she was his aunt in addition to feeling like she didn't have anyone she could trust that was competent, she finally cracked and surrendered to the family madness that was showing itself with little hints the whole time. You could almost see the switch when she told Jon "Fear it is." Then as the bells were ringing, the conflict was on her face before she decided to blame everything that went wrong on Cersei and the people of King's landing and decided to make them pay to spread fear of her.

Also, keep in mind that in the books, she starts GoT at the age of 14....While the books don't show how much time has passed overall, I think it's less time than the show portrays....so she's probably still in her teens by the end (if barely). Teens aren't the most stable people to begin with, especially ones convinced of how special they are and that they are the saviors of humanity. The reason that I point this out is that since the show is based on the books, they went with the same mentality and motivations without adjusting for possible age differences.

Arya's actions/behavior in the latest episode doesn't make much sense unless the Hound had been working on her the entire way down to King's Landing and his final speech to her let it sink in.

Clegane Bowl was entertaining. I think a lot of people expected it to end up as a tie or with Sandor winning. But the way it ended... wow.

I had really hoped that they had had Jaime or Tyrion strangle Cersei. But apparently they left out that part of the prophecy in the show.

Well technically, Tyrion told Jaime to bring her down there, so both of them killed her.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I think they wanted us to see her as human after all, crying and frightened. Also, Jamie and Cersei went out the same way they came in...together.

Here is what the show runners say about it.

Game of Thrones’ showrunners say Daenerys’ big decision was completely spontaneous

I agree with the article. It was completely and utterly out of character no matter what they say about seeding it since season one. First off, they didn't seed crap in season one. This was from the books. So, first lie caught right out of the gate.

They half-***ed season eight and took two years to do it. It's weird though. Normally, I don't care about crap like this, but I really liked this show / books and for them to screw it off like this is a bit upsetting. Hell, I've seen writers / producers / directors screw up Star Wars and Star Trek and it meant very little to me, but this annoys the hell out of me..

 

[Runwildboys]

Killing Sam's father and bother for not bending the knee is not even remotely similar to what she just did to King's Landing. Hell, she even asking them with them knowing what the outcome would be if they didn't. She just started mass killing an entire city without cause. None, zip, zilch. At least she asked the Tarleys. She asked nothing of the peasants of King's Landing.

There is nothing realistic about season 8. They just trashed the ending to a great storyline.

No, it's not the same, but like I said, it showed signs of her losing her cool. In the last couple of episodes, she started getting very distrustful of nearly everyone.

One thing that did bother me is, certainly by the time the army started off for King's Landing, Daenerys would have found out that Tyrion had freed Jaime. Why was he still alive and unchained?

 

[Roadtrip635]

She's been showing signs all along, like when she killed Sam's father and brother. It's just been brushed off as that time of .....er, uncharacteristic overreactions.

Exactly, throughout the whole series, she's said several times she would burn this or that to the ground to take what's hers. It's wasn't just sayings, she really meant it. You also have to remember this family has been inbreeding for centuries, she was gonna be crazy. She's just lucky not to have webbed hands and feet, a humpback, or some misshapen weird body part sticking out somewhere. Her House motto is literally "blood and fire"