If you were in charge - Taco or Crawford?

kskboys said:

Sheeples always have to pick a whipping boy.

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Yeah I know and it’s pathetiz. They did it with Jaylon and Lawrence too.

rocyaice said:

Yeah I know and it’s pathetiz. They did it with Jaylon and Lawrence too.

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Feel free to sing the praises of a first round bust, and a guy buried so far down the depth chart and with such attitude problems that he's a healthy scratch.

Blame the fans for that too.

kskboys said:

Keep Daniel Wise and Joe Jackson and dump 'em both.

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Couldn't be worse.

Whyjerry said:

2 seasons. Too early to bury the guy.

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True, but he needs to show something. I'll give him a rider due to the injury.

Whyjerry said:

Lots of debate on both players. With the draft and FA, Dallas is stacked on the DL. It will be a struggle to make the final roster. In my opinion Crawford and Taco are nearly the same player, meaning a DE with some ability to play inside. Crawford seems to have made the full conversion to DE.

We know what Crawford is at this point. Try hard guy, limited production, decent run stopper, below average pass rusher, good leader, injury prone...

We really don't know what Taco is. Attitude issues, flashes real ability, injury prone, Social Media headache, first rounder that was supposed to take a couple years, then ???...

I doubt Crawford makes the roster given all the depth but if he does doesn't he hurt Taco's development? With Quinn on a 1 year deal and Gregory being a question mark, isn't this the year to see what we have in Taco. Get him snaps at DE and DT and see what we have.

I vote for Taco over Crawford and it is not even a close decision. What do you all think?

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It's Crawford over Taco if it comes down to one or the other.

They are difference players, Taco is a LE. I'm in the minority but I'm taking Taco if I had to pick between him and Crawford.

Crawford is a good piece to have on a team as he can play multiple positions. When you don't have much depth on the DL that's a guy you want. We now have a ton of depth across the board at DL. I get that some are question marks but tons of potential as well.

Taco isn't as bad as some like to bash on him, he has made some plays before. Has he played like a first round pick, the answer is no he has not. He isn't taking Lawrence spot but he is the primary backup at LE. I think his future with the team is decided this training camp. You have Armstrong that is looking better, some guys we drafted and brought in from free agency as well. If Taco isn't motivated and goes into training camp with the mindset to win that backup LE spot then his future with Dallas is just about done. He is going into his 3rd season and as of this moment is just an ok backup. Lose the battle in training camp to a 2nd year Armstrong or a rookie....... All that being said I think Taco will do decent and with Lawrence being out from surgery should get plenty of opportunities to excel. You can't cry about playing time when you will be getting a ton of reps this preseason.


I did see Armstrong was taking first team reps at LE, it's possible Taco has already been passed. If a guy like Jackson shows out, then Taco better get ready to play for another team.

Again this isn't about the LE spot but the question if I had to pick between Crawford or Taco.

Falco78 said:

He is a leader on the team and is consistent in making sure his job is done

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lol

rocyaice said:

I don't get the hate for Taco. Has he underachieved? Yes. But he was a project when we got him yet, I guess people wanted him to be better by year 2?

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Taco's problem is he that he has been a raw talent that makes up for it with a less than acceptable work ethic and attitude.

Falco78 said:

I'd take Crawford over Taco in an instant as Taco has never shown a thing...

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At least Taco wasn’t a 1st round pick.

GhostOfPelluer said:

The old Taco/TJ Watt debate has proven to be one-sided and a non-debate. Although if there is a fair criticism of our FO/coaches, sometimes they can get too hung up on prototypes and there's no guarantee Watt would have the same success in our scheme. I don't know how we would utilize him. Although even as a PT pass-rusher (he's much more than that obviously, I'm just guessing what his role would have been here starting out) he would have given some juice to our D.

That said, even if you think Crawford isn't worth his salary or cap hit, he's multitudes better than Taco so far and anyone who watches the film can see that.

The only caveat is that DL sometimes take time to develop, especially DE. It would be foolish to just give up on the guy without giving him a third training camp and preseason to see if there is any evidence of turning a corner.

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Just out of curiosity, how difficult is it to turn an OLB into a DE? Watt seems to have a high motor, and may have thrived in a 4-3

sulu1701 said:

Just out of curiosity, how difficult is it to turn an OLB into a DE? Watt seems to have a high motor, and may have thrived in a 4-3

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Some will try to tell you it's 'impossible' , while their favorite team does it all the time, with guys like Haley, Ware, Spencer, and many more. The 'rules' change for this team as they see fit. Whatever helps the Cowboys look better? That's the 'rule'!

stasheroo said:

Some will try to tell you it's 'impossible' , while their favorite team does it all the time, with guys like Haley, Ware, Spencer, and many more. The 'rules' change for this team as they see fit. Whatever helps the Cowboys look better? That's the 'rule'!

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Well Taco has NOT helped the Cowboys look better imo

sulu1701 said:

Well Taco has NOT helped the Cowboys look better imo

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Neither the Cowboys nor himself. Coming into last year, I was optimistic for him, as I saw a guy that was taking his lumps but fighting. Someone who was keeping at it and not giving up. And I was encouraged nit to bet against a young player showing those traits. But then he came out and tried to blame others for his own issues and ended up getting deactivated for his pouting and sulking. That's the opposite of the player I had believed him to be last year.

And if the comments from Will McClay represent the feelings of the organization, they're about done with him. He gets with the program or he gets out.

stasheroo said:

Feel free to sing the praises of a first round bust, and a guy buried so far down the depth chart and with such attitude problems that he's a healthy scratch.

Blame the fans for that too.

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I’m not blaming you guys for anything I just don’t get the rush in calling a second year pro a bust. A lot of you guys wrote him off before he even stepped on the field so I’m not shocked.

JustChip said:

Taco's problem is he that he has been a raw talent that makes up for it with a less than acceptable work ethic and attitude.

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I can’t speak on his work ethic but his spoiled attitude does harm him.

rocyaice said:

I’m not blaming you guys for anything I just don’t get the rush in calling a second year pro a bust. A lot of you guys wrote him off before he even stepped on the field so I’m not shocked.

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And "us guys" have been 100% right about everything to this point. But yeah, I'm sure you still can't admit that Gavin Escobar was a bust either, some fans can't admit the obvious.

sulu1701 said:

Just out of curiosity, how difficult is it to turn an OLB into a DE? Watt seems to have a high motor, and may have thrived in a 4-3

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I suppose it depends on the player. I wasn't insinuating that Watt couldn't have been successful here, I just know how hard-headed the coaching staff can be about scheme fit sometimes and just because the player might be plenty capable doesn't necessarily mean the opportunity to do so is fully afforded. Maybe they make him a full-time DE, or maybe they make him a pass rushing DE and a SLB in base. That's all just speculation.

Have to keep both, can't break up the band Hot Boyz, it be like the breakup of the Beatles.

Whyjerry said:

Lots of debate on both players. With the draft and FA, Dallas is stacked on the DL. It will be a struggle to make the final roster. In my opinion Crawford and Taco are nearly the same player, meaning a DE with some ability to play inside. Crawford seems to have made the full conversion to DE.

We know what Crawford is at this point. Try hard guy, limited production, decent run stopper, below average pass rusher, good leader, injury prone...

We really don't know what Taco is. Attitude issues, flashes real ability, injury prone, Social Media headache, first rounder that was supposed to take a couple years, then ???...

I doubt Crawford makes the roster given all the depth but if he does doesn't he hurt Taco's development? With Quinn on a 1 year deal and Gregory being a question mark, isn't this the year to see what we have in Taco. Get him snaps at DE and DT and see what we have.

I vote for Taco over Crawford and it is not even a close decision. What do you all think?

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This is a really tough question.

I would go with Taco.

Not because he is the better player or because he has some character issues.

I saw alot of improvement from him in his second year. And Crawford will be gone after this, latest next season. If Taco can show the same improvement this season he has more upside and is cheaper.

And then right now we dont need Crawford at DT if Hill is what he is advertised. And at end nobody really wants to see Crawford.

stasheroo said:

And "us guys" have been 100% right about everything to this point. But yeah, I'm sure you still can't admit that Gavin Escobar was a bust either, some fans can't admit the obvious.

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And that’s what this is about. Being “right”. And you guys will be right. I just notice there is a certain rush to get him out of here as if it’s foreign for guys to produce in year 3 of their careers.