Since 2016, in the 4th Quarter: Dak has 14 GW Drives, most in NFL

InTheZone · Jun 20, 2019

Remember when the broncos won all those games on the very last drive in one season...yeah I don't remember anyone attaching those wins as a Tim Tebow stat, not even broncos fans propped him up, but they did enjoy his fighting spirit. Team effort, don't lose perspective. It's only dangerous if the team also feels the same way because they're going to disregard a lot around the QB later on.

dogunwo · Jun 20, 2019

Established1971 said:
I swear Im not a Dak bashing person who will spin everything against him, but he has been really consistent at an inability to get early leads. Most of his 4th quarter game winning drives is because he was awful in quarters 1 - 3 at least in the red zone. He needs to up his early game.

Do you have stats to back this claim up? Not saying you're wrong, but its a pretty big statement to make without stats.

Brax · Jun 20, 2019

ShortRound131 said:

"DAK" had those drives all by himself, everyone else just watched as Dak did it all in spite of poor OL play, horrible coaching, 3rd string WR's, bad play calling , sub par run support and terrible D play. Shame he can't play like that for the first 3 quarters and score more than 6 points, Darn defense just stinks too. Is the popcorn good? Can't wait for real games to see the improved super accurate, D reading quick release, long bomb,option running super rich Dak, what a treat awaits us all.

Rockport · Jun 20, 2019

ShortRound131 said:

He’s a winner. Always has been and always will be. We are extremely lucky to have him.

Rockport · Jun 20, 2019

gimmesix said:
Not knocking this, but there's a lot that goes into it.

How many fourth-quarter game-winning situations did all the quarterbacks face? Dak has the most, but did he also have the most opportunities?

Second, how high is other QBs' rating in the fourth quarter? Because not all QBs get the same amount of GW opportunities, QB rating in the quarter can be a measure for how well they play when the game's on the line, even if they are ahead.

Don't get me wrong, I'd much rather our QB have the most than the least and be playing well when those opportunities present themselves, but it's hard to judge the value of the information without context.

The only content you need to know is that he excelled in these situations and won games. Who cares about QB rating?

Rockport · Jun 20, 2019

Hardline said:
That means the Cowboys were losing in the 4th quarter 14 times,
I would rather Dak have zero game winning drives in the 4th quarter.

Didn’t take long for this BS to surface. It’s the NFL. For the most part teams are fairly equal in talent. The draft and hard salary cap dictate that. So the majority of games are close. Haters gonna hate not matter I guess.

aikemirv · Jun 20, 2019

gimmesix said:
That would be better. Let's stop forcing our QB to have to lead game-winning drives. Some other teams make it easier on their QB by actually establishing leads and holding on to them.

Of course, this is nothing different than we saw with this team with Romo at QB, the need for comebacks because our defense blew a lead. Hopefully, we're getting the defense to the point where that won't be the case and it will simply be up to the offense to give it a lead to protect.

That may be true but 6 of these were GWD, not 4 Quarter comebacks. A Game winning drive could happen in the 3rd qtr.

Only 3 4thQC in 2018 - 5 in 2016 when we were 13-3

And actually the only thing Dak performed better at in the 4th qtr in 2018 than other qtrs was 1st downs running the football. His passing in the 4th was less efficient than other qtrs. 2016 was a completely different story however.

Rockport · Jun 20, 2019

Sarge said:
That’s exactly what I used to say when people bragged about Romo and his game winning drives.

And you were wrong then and are wrong now if you feel the same way.

Lutonio · Jun 20, 2019

The argument that he has the most opportunities to win these games doesn't matter. He still has to actually win those opportunities, and he has.

I think this type of thing is actually one of the stronger points for his supporters. Maybe I'm misremembering, but I feel like these situations are when he is likely to use his legs to create more plays or extend drives. If the team can work this into the regular gameplan and not as a panic mode facing a late game loss, then I think he can really start to warrant some of that contract talk.

Rockport · Jun 20, 2019

Brax said:
"DAK" had those drives all by himself, everyone else just watched as Dak did it all in spite of poor OL play, horrible coaching, 3rd string WR's, bad play calling , sub par run support and terrible D play. Shame he can't play like that for the first 3 quarters and score more than 6 points, Darn defense just stinks too. Is the popcorn good? Can't wait for real games to see the improved super accurate, D reading quick release, long bomb,option running super rich Dak, what a treat awaits us all.

It’s a shame you have no understanding of the NFL, the draft the salary cap and the parity throughout the league.

sean10mm · Jun 20, 2019

It's pretty funny to hear people suddenly trashing the idea of a QB leading his team on a late scoring drive to win a game because Dak has some and they don't like Dak.

That's the mathematical definition of clutch... and you don't want clutch now because Dak does it sometimes? So instead of calling Roger Staubach "Captain Comeback" they should have called him "Captain Should Have Scored Sooner"? Is that REALLY the hill some of you guys want to die on? LMAO OK.

You don't even have to like Dak as a QB overall to recognize that he doesn't really choke in the 4th quarter. It's an observable fact. But instead we have people talking themselves into pretzels trying to argue that pulling out wins late is actually a sign of something bad.

Brax · Jun 20, 2019

Rockport said:
It’s a shame you have no understanding of the NFL, the draft the salary cap and the parity throughout the league.

I Compliment Dak and you still don't like my post.

gimmesix · Jun 20, 2019

Rockport said:
The only content you need to know is that he excelled in these situations and won games. Who cares about QB rating?

Fans who actually like to see the whole picture instead of just a piece of it.

Rockport · Jun 20, 2019

gimmesix said:
Fans who actually like to see the whole picture instead of just a piece of it.

Yes my point to you exactly.

percyhoward · Jun 20, 2019

gimmesix said:
Do you know what the defense's points per game was during that stretch?

22.9 points allowed per game, at the rate of 9.8 drives faced per game. Because the offense led the league in TOP per drive during that stretch, the defense faced half a drive less per game than the league average. At the NFL's average rate of 10.3 drives per game, it comes out to 24.0 points allowed per game.

Games 8-18, 2018
% of opponent drives ending in TD
1 Bears 12.0%
2 Vikings 13.4%
3 Ravens 18.8%
4 Colts 19.0%
5 Titans 19.1%

20 Cowboys 25.0%

Those same eleven games, in points allowed per drive:
8 vs Titans 3.11
9 at Eagles 1.82
10 at Falcons 2.38
11 vs Commanders 2.00
12 vs Saints 1.11
13 vs Eagles 2.18
14 at Colts 3.29
15 vs Bucs 2.00
16 at Giants 3.09
17 vs Seahawks 1.67
18 at Rams 3.75

The best average points allowed per drive for the full season was the Bears at 1.43; the worst was the Raiders' 2.61. So in that 11-game stretch, we had one game (Saints) that was better than the league's best season average. We had four games (vs Titans, at Colts, at Giants, at Rams) that were worse than the league's worst season average.

aikemirv · Jun 20, 2019

PA Cowboy Fan said:
BUT...But....lol

Actually this is Dak's saving grace so I won't knock him in anyway for it. He does a good job in these situations!

CowboysFaninHouston · Jun 20, 2019

sean10mm said:
It's pretty funny to hear people suddenly trashing the idea of a QB leading his team on a late scoring drive to win a game because Dak has some and they don't like Dak.

That's the mathematical definition of clutch... and you don't want clutch now because Dak does it sometimes? So instead of calling Roger Staubach "Captain Comeback" they should have called him "Captain Should Have Scored Sooner"? Is that REALLY the hill some of you guys want to die on? LMAO OK.

You don't even have to like Dak as a QB overall to recognize that he doesn't really choke in the 4th quarter. It's an observable fact. But instead we have people talking themselves into pretzels trying to argue that pulling out wins late is actually a sign of something bad.

so we have compared Dak to Brady, Aikman, and now roger Staubach..... I bet there is an S on his chest when he removed his cowboys uniform...….maybe a small S since he is an average passer, but an S nonetheless

gimmesix · Jun 20, 2019

aikemirv said:
That may be true but 6 of these were GWD, not 4 Quarter comebacks. A Game winning drive could happen in the 3rd qtr.

Only 3 4thQC in 2018 - 5 in 2016 when we were 13-3

And actually the only thing Dak performed better at in the 4th qtr in 2018 than other qtrs was 1st downs running the football. His passing in the 4th was less efficient than other qtrs. 2016 was a completely different story however.

If I remember correctly, we played a lot of extremely close games in 2016. Just now looking at it, we won six games by less than a touchdown and lost two. Of course, that was the difference between 13-3 and 8-8.

acr731 · Jun 20, 2019

Rockport said:
He’s a winner. Always has been and always will be. We are extremely lucky to have him.

'Cept he can win when it means the most. You know, like when its playoff time.

Per the usual, this reeks of celebrating regular season successes.

Rockport · Jun 20, 2019

acr731 said:
'Cept he can win when it means the most. You know, like when its playoff time.

Per the usual, this reeks of celebrating regular season successes.

People with brains wired negatively will take this stance.

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