Trysten Hill: What Do Inactive Mean?

408Cowboy · Sep 12, 2019

Jumbo075 said:
The Cowboys drafted Hill with the full intention of giving him a red-shirt year to develop. That's the ONLY thing him being inactive means. Collins is balling out in front of him, and Hill allows the Cowboys to make choices in 2020 about whether to keep Collins or let him walk. Also, the Cowboys have BOTH Crawford and Collins to play the 3-tech, not to mention Hyder on his one-year deal.

I said it when they drafted him. Don't expect to see anything from Hill in 2019 unless there are a flurry of injuries.

DallasInDC · Sep 12, 2019

xwalker said:
Not all college players focus on watching NFL games.

Many are more interested in their competition which means other college teams.

College teams have ALL healthy players active for home games.

Maybe they didn't have time to watch in college, but what about high school and middle school... Not saying it can't happen, I just find it odd that players spend their entire lives playing a sport but don't know some basic things about the game. If I recall Donovan McNabb once didn't know games could end in a tie (I could be wrong about the player) .... That just seems weird to me.

ColoradoCowboy · Sep 12, 2019

smh

Dear Mr. Hill,

Learn the game that you play PROFESSIONALLY.

That is all.
The fans

skinsscalper · Sep 12, 2019

pancakeman said:
You guys who are showing how smart you are by referencing Troy Hambrick have the wrong Hambrick!

I was waiting to see if anyone would catch that before I posted it.

Alexander · Sep 12, 2019

Verdict said:
That is such revisionist history. Lol.

Beyond revisionist history.

Nobody, I mean nobody, said at the time he was drafted up until last week that this was a redshirt year.

xwalker · Sep 12, 2019

DallasInDC said:
Maybe they didn't have time to watch in college, but what about high school and middle school... Not saying it can't happen, I just find it odd that players spend their entire lives playing a sport but don't know some basic things about the game. If I recall Donovan McNabb once didn't know games could end in a tie (I could be wrong about the player) .... That just seems weird to me.

It's only a rule in the NFL.

Players spend a lot of time practicing, in meetings, traveling to games, etc.. It's not surprising that some of them don't focus on the details of the NFL in their spare time.

I think you are correct about the Donovan McNabb story. That is far more basic concept than the 46 man roster limit and is a bit hard to understand how he didn't know that info.

pancakeman · Sep 12, 2019

xwalker said:
It's only a rule in the NFL.

Players spend a lot of time practicing, in meetings, traveling to games, etc.. It's not surprising that some of them don't focus on the details of the NFL in their spare time.

I think you are correct about the Donovan McNabb story. That is far more basic concept than the 46 man roster limit and is a bit hard to understand how he didn't know that info.

I dunno, overtimes happen to teams once in a while, choosing the roster happens to every team every week. Not knowing that is much more shocking to me.

Jumbo075 · Sep 12, 2019

Alexander said:
Beyond revisionist history.

Nobody, I mean nobody, said at the time he was drafted up until last week that this was a redshirt year.

Maybe this isn't obvious to you, but it seemed obvious to me that both Collins and Crawford would be ahead of Hill on the depth chart in 2019. Of all the DT's, only Crawford and Hill are under contract for 2020. I just ASSUMED it was obvious the Cowboys would play the veterans this year, while allowing Hill time to develop.

It was also blatantly obvious to me that they overdrafted Hill based on his talent, not his refinement, and that further refinement would be necessary. If so many other DT's had not already been drafted ahead of him, I think Hill may have been picked later. He's a 3rd round talent drafted in the 2nd round because of the laws of supply and demand - meaning the demand for DT's was higher than the supply. The rumor (don't ask me for a link because I don't have it, but I think the Chiefs and Patriots were both interested) that I read was that there was another team planning on drafting Hill either late in the 2nd round, or early in the 3rd. So, if the Cowboys waited to draft Hill in the 3rd round, he likely would not have been there.

This, of course, is no guarantee that Hill becomes a good player. The Cowboys traded for Jihad Ward, who was about like Hill, a DT overdrafted in the 2nd round by the Raiders. Ward only lasted 2 years in Oakland, before coming to Dallas, and getting cut at the end of training camp. He's now on his 3rd team - the Colts.

Do I believe Hill was overdrafted? Yes.
Do I believe the Cowboys could have waited to get him in the 3rd round? Nope, some other team would have overdrafted him instead.
Am I convinced Hill will become a good starting player for the Cowboys? Nope, not yet
Do I think he has some raw talent that COULD lead to a big win for the Cowboys? Yes, but there are no guarantees.

I tend to give Will McClay some benefit of the doubt with his track record...

Runwildboys · Sep 12, 2019

shabazz said:
Was it also uncool when McNabb didn't know an NFL game could end in a tie and he was already a veteran? of course not, it was merely a fact

Now that was stupid!

Runwildboys · Sep 12, 2019

Cowboy4ever said:
I hate it when fans are just totally stupid when it comes to a player. You can't blame him for being drafted or where he was drafted. Now if you tell me he is not working hard to get better, he is not giving it his all every day, etc, then ok, bash the guy. But to bash a player that is not performing as well as a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, round should, is just stupid. Blame the coaches, blame the FO, but don't blame the player, as long as he is doing everything he can do to be the best he can be that's all he can do. He didn't ask to be drafted as high as he was.

He may not have expected it, but I'm sure he asked...and I don't blame him for that either.

cern · Sep 12, 2019

Why all the derisive comments regarding a rookie dt? Give the guy a chance. He may yet become a star.

xwalker · Sep 12, 2019

pancakeman said:
I dunno, overtimes happen to teams once in a while, choosing the roster happens to every team every week. Not knowing that is much more shocking to me.

Stand at the gate of a Cowboys game and ask fans how many player on the game day roster.

There will be far more that don't know the answer than those that do know the answer.

It's not a rule in college. I'm not surprised a college player didn't know the rule.

The only surprise to me is that nobody has mentioned it to him prior to game day. Not just the rule but the fact that he might not be active.

Oh_Canada · Sep 12, 2019

Calm down, it’s probably not that uncommon for rookies to be unfamiliar with the inactive rule since it is not used in college.
I am not concerned about Hill yet, still think he will be a player.

Alexander · Sep 12, 2019

cern said:
Why all the derisive comments regarding a rookie dt? Give the guy a chance. He may yet become a star.

When players become stars, there is usually an arc they take.

So far this kid has done nothing to show promise or progression.

Praxit · Sep 12, 2019

....Trysten soon enough, will be over there with the Lollipop guild. ...."there off to see the Wizard...." ..

Corso · Sep 12, 2019

Alexander said:
Dallas Cowboys rookie defender did not know what being inactive means. He knows now.
1 hour ago

by Mac Engel

FRISCO

Trysten Hill did not see it coming, because he did not even know the term existed.

The Dallas Cowboys rookie defensive tackle from Central Florida was unaware that there existed a possibility he would not at least suit up for the season opener against the New York Giants.

He said he was told of the Cowboys decision to make him inactive for the opener on Sunday, the day of the game, hours before kickoff. That’s a fairly standard procedure for the inactive players.

“I didn’t even know that this existed, that you only dress 46 and not all 53,” Hill said. “I didn’t even know what being ‘inactive’ was.”

Safe to say he knows now.

https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/mac-engel/article234991837.html

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The Ivie-Pump!
Everything else I don't care about yet.

America's Cowboy · Sep 12, 2019

Alexander said:
Dallas Cowboys rookie defender did not know what being inactive means. He knows now.
1 hour ago

by Mac Engel

FRISCO

Trysten Hill did not see it coming, because he did not even know the term existed.

The Dallas Cowboys rookie defensive tackle from Central Florida was unaware that there existed a possibility he would not at least suit up for the season opener against the New York Giants.

He said he was told of the Cowboys decision to make him inactive for the opener on Sunday, the day of the game, hours before kickoff. That’s a fairly standard procedure for the inactive players.

“I didn’t even know that this existed, that you only dress 46 and not all 53,” Hill said. “I didn’t even know what being ‘inactive’ was.”

Safe to say he knows now.

https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/mac-engel/article234991837.html

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@TwoDeep3 , you see Marinelli cheering in the gif above? .

Verdict · Sep 12, 2019

xwalker said:
It's only a rule in the NFL.

Players spend a lot of time practicing, in meetings, traveling to games, etc.. It's not surprising that some of them don't focus on the details of the NFL in their spare time.

I think you are correct about the Donovan McNabb story. That is far more basic concept than the 46 man roster limit and is a bit hard to understand how he didn't know that info.

I think you are letting them off a little bit easy, @xwalker but that’s just my opinion.

Verdict · Sep 12, 2019

America's Cowboy said:
@TwoDeep3 , you see Marinelli cheering in the gif above? .

No. That’s the IVEY dance. But it might as well have been for Hill too.

Verdict · Sep 12, 2019

cern said:
Why all the derisive comments regarding a rookie dt? Give the guy a chance. He may yet become a star.

No. We will crush his hopes and dreams and then enjoy the lamentation of his women.

Trysten Hill: What Do Inactive Mean?

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What's it going to be then, eh?

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What's it going to be then, eh?

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Offseason mode... sleepy time

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