Are you a Zeke fan, a Dak fan, or a Cowboys fan?

superonyx

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Blah, blah, blah. Go whine to those who care. So you're for a player being as greedy as possible, even if it hurts the team? Don't know why you're bringing up the owners. They have a business to run, and their #1 goal is to make a profit. It has nothing to do with a team's salary cap and how a team's owner/GM has to manage that cap wisely if they intend on building and keeping a playoff capable team intact. You fail to acknowledge how those players make millions on the side through sponsorships simply for wearing the Star on their helmets, especially if they are a stud key team player. The owners with the approval of the players' union approved to the current CBA agreement which includes the salary cap. Unless you own a business, you truly don't understand nor have a right to be complaining against those "greedy" owners. If the players don't like it, they can go try to make such money $$$$$ elsewhere simply for playing a sport. Good luck with that.
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There are a lot of Cowboys fans on this site. There are also a fair # of people that are just fans of themselves. So they like to pick sides, defend things, and be "right". Even if its just trolling because it makes them feel good. IE fans of themselves.

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Blah, blah, blah. Go whine to those who care. So you're for a player being as greedy as possible, even if it hurts the team? Don't know why you're bringing up the owners? They have a business to run, and their #1 goal is to make a profit. It has nothing to do with a team's salary cap and how a team's owner/GM has to manage that cap wisely if they intend on building and keeping a playoff capable team intact. You fail to acknowledge how those players make millions on the side through sponsorships simply for wearing the Star on their helmets, especially if they are a stud key team player. The owners with the approval of the players' union approved to the current CBA agreement which includes the salary cap. Unless you own a business, you truly don't understand nor have a right to be complaining against those "greedy" owners. If the players don't like it, they can go try to make such money $$$$$ elsewhere simply for playing a sport. Good luck with that.

You say “go whine to those who care” then you go on for 6 paragraphs(https://www.google.com/search?q=paragraph&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari) explaining why I’m wrong. Interesting.

You say I’m whining when I simply state the tactic that Zeke used to get more money and why that he’s justified in doing that. Then you predictably go on to cheerlead for the owners. I guessing you’re a business owner or their cheerleader too. Good job.

Either way the labor and the product has the right(from the CBA as you with no sense of irony cite) to negotiate. Again, that’s what he did. That’s whining? Do you see how that makes no sense and is completely stupid of you?

Then you proceed to whine about how hard the owners have it and tell me what right I don’t have. Who are you again? More irony.

What do what the players make on the side from the star that they bring attention to by being the product and labor have to do with anything? Sounds like you are counting their money while accusing them of greed. Even More irony.

I didn’t say anything confrontational in any way to justify your blah blah whining comments. You’re clearly very sensitive and emotional on this subject and I’m sorry to upset your delicate feelings. :)
 

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You say “go whine to those who care” then you go on for 6 paragraphs(https://www.google.com/search?q=paragraph&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari) explaining why I’m wrong. Interesting.

You say I’m whining when I simply state the tactic that Zeke used to get more money and why that he’s justified in doing that. Then you predictably go on to cheerlead for the owners. I guessing you’re a business owner or their cheerleader too. Good job.

Either way the labor and the product has the right(from the CBA as you with no sense of irony cite) to negotiate. Again, that’s what he did. That’s whining? Do you see how that makes no sense and is completely stupid of you?

Then you proceed to whine about how hard the owners have it and tell me what right I don’t have. Who are you again? More irony.

What do what the players make on the side from the star that they bring attention to by being the product and labor have to do with anything? Sounds like you are counting their money while accusing them of greed. Even More irony.

I didn’t say anything confrontational in any way to justify your blah blah whining comments. You’re clearly very sensitive and emotional on this subject and I’m sorry to upset your delicate feelings. :)
Irony is you claiming the owners are greedy while supporting the players being as greedy as possible in their demands. Dumb is you not understanding (or refusing to) that there is a CBA agreement in place between the owners and players where a salary cap has been agreed upon. Ignorant is you not having an idea how it works since it's obvious you've never owned or ran a business.

Please don't ever try to run a business. You will fail.
 

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There is nothing about being right, but there is plenty of place for calling out things for what they are. Before this year Dak was playing like an average qb, this year he is playing as arguably the best ok you can have top 3. Zeke on this forum has always been overrated, and now with his contract it needs to be stated, he is not the best back in the league, he is running behind the best offensive line in the league, he really doesn't break tackles, sure he can get an extra hard yard.
I love that the statistical analysis breaks it down clearly that Zeke isn't elite, then you also have the zero MVP votes and PFF to back that up. Meanwhile on here you just got the homer fans saying that Zeke is best because he carries the ball the most.
No, to all of that.
I don't see that on the field.
 
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I think most love their Cowboys. In the format of a forum sometimes fans over analyze players and forget the team concept. For example a few days someone created a thread talking about Witten taking away TD's from Swaim. My response was they both score TD's for the Cowboys.

At the end of the day we should all want all of our players to be successful in the context of helping us win. Dak vs Zeke is ridiculous. Zeke needs Dak, Dak needs Zeke, Amari needs Dak, Dak needs Amari, Zeke needs Amari, Amari needs Zeke, the offense needs the defense, the defense needs the offense, ect ect ect. #Road2Six
 

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I’m a Cowboys fan above players, coaches, and front office. If I think a player coach or front office person is hurting the team I’ll say so. I also don’t understand why fans want players to get top dollar contracts the more they spend on one player less there is to spend on the team.
 

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I’m a Cowboys fan above players, coaches, and front office. If I think a player coach or front office person is hurting the team I’ll say so. I also don’t understand why fans want players to get top dollar contracts the more they spend on one player less there is to spend on the team.
I don't think many fans want a player to get top dollar. I think some fans can understand why a player would want top dollar though.
We have too many fans that vilify a player for the business side of the sport. Yet we don't vilify the billionaires for the gouging they do to the fans. Some of the NFL practices are borderline illegal. Exclusive Directv contract, Exclusive EA Sports contracts ect. Most of the increases in your cable bills come from professional sports tv contracts. Owners threaten cities to have taxpayers subsidize stadiums that are handed off to the owners. How is this ok? We pay taxes to a private business to build them a billion dollar asset that they can then charge us to access?
 

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There are a lot of die hard Dak supporters on this site, more so than Zeke supporters. Which is understandable given the amount of haters Dak has. I mean, I get it. I understand defending Dak, especially at this point in his career. Dak is balling out and everything is falling into place.

But what I don't understand is the shade getting thrown at Zeke in the process of defending Dak. We shouldn't downplay Zeke's success in defense of Dak's own. Zeke and Dak fans are turning on each other. Whatever happened to being a "Cowboys" fan?
I am a cowboy fan and as a result, a Zeke and Dak fan. team above players.
 

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Stats regarding broken tackles, he was 5th in the league last year for yards after contact.

Stats regarding carries/yards. Barry Sanders avg. was 5.0, Emmitt was 4.2, Zeke is at 4.7. Meaning he's doing great. Not sure why some of you people think being a workhorse back is a negative. Not many backs can run as much as Zeke can.

People like this guy is exactly what I'm talking about. Most of his posts consist of rooting for Dak while downplaying Zeke. They're both projected to have their best seasons yet this year, not sure what the problem is?

I defend both Dak and Zeke. They defend our star!

I wonder if fantasy football would have anything to do with some posts :)
 

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There are a lot of Cowboys fans on this site. There are also a fair # of people that are just fans of themselves. So they like to pick sides, defend things, and be "right". Even if its just trolling because it makes them feel good. IE fans of themselves.
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I'm a Cowboys fan so I root for the team. I like Dak. He stepped into a horrible situation and significantly outplayed his contract while being a class act. I dislike Zeke. He makes it hard to root for him and the only reason I do is because he wears the star and he's on my fantasy keeper league team. I'd hate him if he were on any other team.
 

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There are a lot of die hard Dak supporters on this site, more so than Zeke supporters. Which is understandable given the amount of haters Dak has. I mean, I get it. I understand defending Dak, especially at this point in his career. Dak is balling out and everything is falling into place.

But what I don't understand is the shade getting thrown at Zeke in the process of defending Dak. We shouldn't downplay Zeke's success in defense of Dak's own. Zeke and Dak fans are turning on each other. Whatever happened to being a "Cowboys" fan?

Always a Cowboy fan 1st but also a fan of Dak and Zeke. I hope to see these guys grow together and win championships.
 

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There is nothing about being right, but there is plenty of place for calling out things for what they are. Before this year Dak was playing like an average qb, this year he is playing as arguably the best ok you can have top 3.

Before this year Dak had a crappy OC. This year he has a decent one. Maybe even a good one.

Also, I heard somewhere that Moore was doing like McVay, and doing some pre snap reads in Dak's ear at the LOS. Anyone know the truth of that?

Last year Dak had issues and was held back by a poor OC. This offseason he clearly corrected a number of his issues, and now has an OC who helps him better than holding him back.
 

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Blah, blah, blah. Go whine to those who care. So you're for a player being as greedy as possible, even if it hurts the team? Don't know why you're bringing up the owners. They have a business to run, and their #1 goal is to make a profit. It has nothing to do with a team's salary cap and how a team's owner/GM has to manage that cap wisely if they intend on building and keeping a playoff capable team intact. You fail to acknowledge how those players make millions on the side through sponsorships simply for wearing the Star on their helmets, especially if they are a stud key team player. The owners with the approval of the players' union approved to the current CBA agreement which includes the salary cap. Unless you own a business, you truly don't understand nor have a right to be complaining against those "greedy" owners. If the players don't like it, they can go try to make such money $$$$$ elsewhere simply for playing a sport. Good luck with that.
Don't get me wrong, I didn't like what Zeke did. But i also understand why he wanted to get paid while he was producing. Had he held out or got traded, I would've felt even more indifferent. But he's here to stay, so I let it go. All I want is W's!
 
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