10 NYCowboy22's Not So Vague Predictions

[The30YardSlant]

He can't cover Santana Moss. Most corners can't cover him. But Roy has solid cover skills for a safety.

No, he doesnt. That stereotype about him didnt get there fore no reason. He has below average cover skills for a SS, terrible coverage skills as a FS

He is a great playmaker, but he is not a coverage player by any stretch of the imagination

 

[littlewebs]

No, he doesnt. That stereotype about him didnt get there fore no reason. He has below average cover skills for a SS, terrible coverage skills as a FS

He is a great playmaker, but he is not a coverage player by any stretch of the imagination

Ok, name all the strong safeties that cover better than Roy Williams. If he's below average, he should be in the bottom half right? Good luck finding 16 guys that are better.

 

[NYCowboy22]

Ok, name all the strong safeties that cover better than Roy Williams. If he's below average, he should be in the bottom half right? Good luck finding 16 guys that are better.

Well said.

 

[BigDFan5]

No, he doesnt. That stereotype about him didnt get there fore no reason. He has below average cover skills for a SS, terrible coverage skills as a FS

He is a great playmaker, but he is not a coverage player by any stretch of the imagination

His coverage skills are average for his position

 

[The30YardSlant]

Ok, name all the strong safeties that cover better than Roy Williams. If he's below average, he should be in the bottom half right? Good luck finding 16 guys that are better.

In coverage? Even though that logic is terribly flawed, there are definitly 16 SS's with better coverage skills:

Ed Reed
Troy Polamalu
Mike Minter
Michael Lewis
Mike Brown
Tony Parrish
Kenoy Kennedy
Shaun Williams
Michael Boulware (A former LB)
Tebucky Jones
Bob Sanders
Sammy Knight
Adrian Wilson
Rodney Harrison
Lawyer Milloy
Madieu Williams

And that's assuming Sean Taylor moves to FS

 

[dbair1967]

In coverage? Even though that logic is terribly flawed, there are definitly 16 SS's with better coverage skills:

Ed Reed
Troy Polamalu
Mike Minter
Michael Lewis
Mike Brown
Tony Parrish
Kenoy Kennedy
Shaun Williams
Michael Boulware (A former LB)
Tebucky Jones
Bob Sanders
Sammy Knight
Adrian Wilson
Rodney Harrison
Lawyer Milloy
Madieu Williams

And that's assuming Sean Taylor moves to FS

there isnt one football GM who would agree with you on this...not one..

in fact the last time I saw the poll conducted by football GM's and personnel people, Williams was rated the #1 safety in football

Sammy Knight? Kennoy Kennedy???? Bob Sanders???? Madieu Williams???? Shaun Williams????? Mike Brown??????

get a clue man

David

 

[The30YardSlant]

there isnt one football GM who would agree with you on this...not one..

in fact the last time I saw the poll conducted by football GM's and personnel people, Williams was rated the #1 safety in football

Sammy Knight? Kennoy Kennedy???? Bob Sanders???? Madieu Williams???? Shaun Williams????? Mike Brown??????

get a clue man

David

And no one is saying he isnt a great safety, he just isnt a great coverage player

And I'll acknowledge that Bob Sanders and Sammy Knight are deabteable, the other 3 you listed are not, however

 

[BigDFan5]

In coverage? Even though that logic is terribly flawed, there are definitly 16 SS's with better coverage skills:

Ed Reed
Troy Polamalu
Mike Minter
Michael Lewis
Mike Brown
Tony Parrish
Kenoy Kennedy
Shaun Williams
Michael Boulware (A former LB)
Tebucky Jones
Bob Sanders
Sammy Knight
Adrian Wilson
Rodney Harrison
Lawyer Milloy
Madieu Williams

And that's assuming Sean Taylor moves to FS

and how exactly do you determine better coverage since Williams has better numbers than most on that list.

 

[The30YardSlant]

and how exactly do you determine better coverage since Williams has better numbers than most on that list.

Because most play typical safety roles, unlike RW who blitzes and plays up to the line more than any other safety in football

RW is always going to have more sacks, tackles, and FF because he is unique in that way from every other safety in football, which is why he IS a great player despite his subpar coverage skills.

 

[BigDFan5]

Because most play typical safety roles, unlike RW who blitzes and plays up to the line more than any other safety in football

RW is always going to have more sacks, tackles, and FF because he is unique in that way from every other safety in football, which is why he IS a great player despite his subpar coverage skills.

you didn;t answer my question

 

[DragonCowboy]

Sean Taylor > Roy Williams??

HH31, did some Commanders fan steal your account?

 

[theogt]

1- The Cowboys will not take an OLB in the first round.
2- The Cowboys won't take a safety in the first round.
3- The Cowboys won't take a reciever in the first round.
4- Unless someone unexpectedly falls, Dallas trades down out of the first round for a potentially higher first rounder next year. (We are talking Hawk, Huff or Justice)
5- Burnett is the starter at OLB in 06.
6- Beriault is the starter at FS in 06.
7- TO gets through the year with no real mishaps (not counting the media blowing stupid things out of proportion)
8- Henson beats Romo for the backup job.
9-Dallas takes a NT on the first day.
10- Dallas takes a Guard on the first day.

Only time will tell.

You could have left out 1, 2, and 3, as they are obvious once you state 4.

Burnett WON'T be the starter as of week 1. He might not even be able to dress for week 1. Beriault? That's ridiculous. I'll agree with 7, 8, and 10. 9 is a distinct possibility, but it all depends on what Bill think of the two guys we have there right now. I'm not sure what he thinks of them to be honest.

 

[dbair1967]

And no one is saying he isnt a great safety, he just isnt a great coverage player

And I'll acknowledge that Bob Sanders and Sammy Knight are deabteable, the other 3 you listed are not, however

and you came to those conclusions about those players how exactly? you probably havent seen half of them play a single game

using your John Madden playstation game to make judgements about players isnt how it works in the real world

David

 

[The30YardSlant]

you didn;t answer my question

I did, you just can't grasp this whole reading comprehension thing:

Because most play typical safety roles, unlike RW who blitzes and plays up to the line more than any other safety in football

That is why his numbers look better than most of the other safeties

As for how to determine who the better coverage safeties are, you 1: Watch more than just Cowboys games and 2: Take notice of who is getting burned every other week and who is not

RW is a better player than most on that list, however that was not the question posed

 

[big dog cowboy]

Just to help clear the air. Draw your own conclusions.........

Justin Beriault, SS, Ball State

Height: 6:02.2 Weight: 199

Analysis: Positives... Team leader who works hard in his offseason conditioning program. ... Has good hip flexibility and quick feet, showing the ability to change direction smoothly. ... Smart and instinctive player who reacts quickly and makes proper reads, especially in run support. ... Shows adequate vision in the passing game, doing a decent job of sniffing the ball out in front of him. ... Makes plays on the ball in the air and while not an explosive tackler, he is reliable to wrap and secure. ... Tough and aggressive in run support, squeezing through trash to quickly plug the rushing lanes. ... Stays low in his pads and drives hard with his legs to push the fullback back through the hole. ... Shows good field smarts in zone coverage, flowing quickly to the ball. ... Has good strength for his position, but could use additional bulk and power to compete effectively at the next level. ... His instincts and ability to break down plays allows him to take good angles in order to compensate for a lack of top-end speed.

Negatives... Little stiff in his hips and does not have the short area explosion to be relied too much in man coverage. ... Has good range, but needs to build up to top speed. ... Struggles to adjust to the ball with his back to it and is better making plays in front of him. ... Will not usually bit on a receiver's double moves, but if they get by him, he does not have the recovery speed to make the play. ... Effective with his hands to keep blockers off his body, but they are not natural enough to get good production on the interception. ... Not a quick-twitch type, but is reliable getting to the ball.

 

[littlewebs]

Because most play typical safety roles, unlike RW who blitzes and plays up to the line more than any other safety in football

RW is always going to have more sacks, tackles, and FF because he is unique in that way from every other safety in football, which is why he IS a great player despite his subpar coverage skills.

Except Polamalu, Adrian Wilson, Rodney Harrison, and maybe some others but I'm sure of those three, all of whom you claimed could cover better than Roy. And your list of 16 was just a list of names. From those, Reed, Parrish, Lewis, and maybe Boulware are better I think. The rest Roy is at least as good at if not better.

 

[The30YardSlant]

and you came to those conclusions about those players how exactly? you probably havent seen half of them play a single game

using your John Madden playstation game to make judgements about players isnt how it works in the real world

David

Yes, that's it, I scrolled through the Madden players to find the best coverage safeties

Reaching much are we?

Considering you think Mike Brown is worse in coverage than RW, I have to question whether or not you have ever even heard of these players

 

[The30YardSlant]

Sean Taylor > Roy Williams??

HH31, did some Commanders fan steal your account?

Where did I say Sean Taylor was a better safety than Roy Williams? I said he had bette natural coverage ability.

 

[littlewebs]

Yes, that's it, I scrolled through the Madden players to find the best coverage safeties

Reaching much are we?

Considering you think Mike Brown is worse in coverage than RW, I have to question whether or not you have ever even heard of these players

What has Mike Brown done since his 2 OT touchdowns in 2001? (besides make the Pro Bowl on his reputation from those 2 plays)

 

[dbair1967]

Considering you think Mike Brown is worse in coverage than RW, I have to question whether or not you have ever even heard of these players

would that be the Mike Brown who despite playing two years longer than Roy Williams, has fewer passes defensed and only two more ints?

David