2 Penalties- 2 Questions?

[Doomsay]

The refs also blew at least two calls on our defensive backs holding Packers receivers.

Fans ALWAYS complain about bad calls when their favorite teams lose. And there are almost always missed calls in games.

My take is unless they are egregious, they should never decide the final minutes of a game.

The holding on our DL on many plays was egregious as was the non-call PI on Witten in the end zone as was the BS premeditated call on Butler both of which cost us 7-11 points. I saw the Scandrick hold, everybody did, big deal, what was the other?

The holding on Irving was a game changer.

 

[plymkr]

I'm a sore loser and a homer and I fully acknowledge that but when a penalty is called for the first time in 30 years and the refs had to ask the Green Bay coaching staff how many yards to penalize the Cowboys then something is not right. It's convenient that they blew the call on Irving, Witten, Brown, etc that all benefited the Packers. But when they call a penalty that hasn't been called since Tom Landry was a coach, that's not a blown call, that was intentional. And at the time they called it was also fishy as far as us getting a first down and momentum. That call ended out being a 45 yard or so difference. Please, spare me any arguments. Aaron Rodgers made the comment they were going to run the table and the NFL is running with that story with their golden boy. Green Bay will win the super bowl this year, beating the Patriots and they will have help from questionable penalties at questionable times the rest of the playoffs.

 

[Jake]

First let me say penalties didn't cost Dallas the game, a 36 yard throw did and 2 big time clutch kicks. BUT, 2 penalties that did alter the game bother me. Unsportmanslike on Butler....30 years ago that was flagged?? I read someone post that it seemed premeditated to make that call..either specifically looking for it or someone arguing for it (which could backfire). Either way that is a crew that is looing to make their mark in my mind!! Butler not even in the huddle, but maybe we don't get the rule at all...My real question is the PI on Brown at the end.... Ball overthrown by 10plus yards intercepted by Heath. Yet, PI is called for contact 20 yards from where ball landed. Isnt that illegal contact or holding??? Why PI??? difference in 20-25 yards of field position. Can someone explain?? I saw replay of 1st qtr play, couple of plays before Butler gaffe... Dak throws to his right, apparently to no one, balls falls to ground harmeless...flag thrown due to someone had grabbed Dez...holding penalty....same freaking play!!!

The unsportsmanlike conduct call was bizarre. I've never seen that in my life.

The PI call as PI because (allegedly) the ball was in the air. As for "uncatchable" one could argue it was so because the guy was held. I wouldn't, but it could be done. As for the yardage, the PI call ended up being only 10 yards, not 20-25. It was only 5 yards more than holding would've been. I'm more annoyed that it cost us an interception.

 

[NotAgain]

True all penalties can impact a game, those called and not called....buts its 31-31.....with 30 secs left...last couple plays were great plays by GB....woulda coulda shoulda game you can play all day....but bottom line is Defense allowed a big play with 10 secs left...

but did you see Irving tackled on the front line........how did anyone not see that play.....and anyone who thinks that penalties cannot change the outcome of a game, especially when you lose 34-31 is an idiot

 

[Doomsay]

The unsportsmanlike conduct call was bizarre. I've never seen that in my life.

The PI call as PI because (allegedly) the ball was in the air. As for "uncatchable" one could argue it was so because the guy was held. I wouldn't, but it could be done. As for the yardage, the PI call ended up being only 10 yards, not 20-25. It was only 5 yards more than holding would've been. I'm more annoyed that it cost us an interception.

The unsportsmanlike call was held in the their pocket to kill a drive - it was really funny when they figured out that 5 yards wasn't enough and increased it to 15.

 

[guag]

Which begs the question of why can't penalties be reviewed? I realize that generally speaking that can open up a whole new can of worms, but in crucial situations (final two minutes of each half...or at least final two minutes of the game) there is no excuse not to get those right. The officials were conferring after that flag and I'm pretty sure that the discussion centered around whether the ball was in the air at the time of the hold/grab. They erroneously came to the conclusion that it was. Had the Ref had the authority to review the play, he would have been able to make the correct call, no questions asked. The league pretends to want to improve the quality of games...well there is an instance where they have the resources to do just that, but refuse to do so. That might mean having to give up one or two commercials during a game. JMO.

I look at it as an opportunity for them to show more commercials, like they usually do during a coaches challenge.

 

[guag]

but did you see Irving tackled on the front line........how did anyone not see that play.....and anyone who thinks that penalties cannot change the outcome of a game, especially when you lose 34-31 is an idiot

 

[LandryFan]

I look at it as an opportunity for them to show more commercials, like they usually do during a coaches challenge.

You have a very good point, there. I was merely looking at it from a "length of game" perspective. Hmmm...the NFL could improve the quality of the game and make more $$$ in the process. They should be all over that!

 

[guag]

You have a very good point, there. I was merely looking at it from a "length of game" perspective. Hmmm...the NFL could improve the quality of the game and make more $$$ in the process. They should be all over that!

Lol exactly, though an extended game run time might annoy some fans, but when has that ever stopped the NFL (especially when they know we'll watch anyway)?

 

[Derinyar]

The hands to the face call was also mystifying (and incorrect).

There were, now that Lombardi says the NFL admitted the substution penalty was bad, about 14 points in this game that the NFL officials directly effected. 7 in the mythical hands to the face call. 3, at minimum, from the botched substution penalty. 4 from the tackle of Witten, as I really doubt that the GB defense stops us 3 times from the 2 or so yard line.

 

[Cmac]

Did anyone question it during the broadcast??? Did Garret at the time??? Obviously a huge play on Brown's PI. As soon as it happened I question it and referred to the Dez play in 1st qtr.... If I am missing something please share, but what was the difference in the 2 plays!! Ball in the air, and that may be questionable....

Is it mandatory that Refs take an eye test or not?

 

[DogFace]

Refs like ISIS.

 

[Verdict]

Why do you guys start off by saying penalties didn't cost us this game but proceed to bring up two crucial points in the game that had a deciding factor in the game? It definetly took part in our loss. No questions asked.

We got ****ed in that game just like the last Green Bay game.

 

[DejectedFan1996]

The holding on our DL on many plays was egregious as was the non-call PI on Witten in the end zone as was the BS premeditated call on Butler both of which cost us 7-11 points. I saw the Scandrick hold, everybody did, big deal, what was the other?

The holding on Irving was a game changer.

Mo Claiborne held devante Adams so bad his shoulder armor was popping through his jersey.

Despite that the calls against us completely killed momentum.

I'm hopeful but I'm starting to be a little bit realistic as far as next year. Many people said the same things in 2007 and 2014 and we had terrible years after. Well come to think of it, 2008 probably would have been successful had for Romo not getting injured. But that's my point. We could have severe injuries again next year that put us right back to 6-10 - 8-8. This was a missed opportunity.

Hopefully we break this streak of repeating NFC East champs because it hasn't happened in 12 years.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

We got ****ed in that game just like the last Green Bay game.

It's becoming tradition sadly.

 

[mmohican29]

I look at it as an opportunity for them to show more commercials, like they usually do during a coaches challenge.

My favorite part of this particular penalty was the smug smirk on the referee's face when he got to announce it to the world. Seriously... someone should post it.

This ****** could barely hide his giddiness in making that call. I knew right then the season would probably end this afternoon.