20 TDs, 4 INTs

[SDCowboy]

did a 4th guy make the pro bowl that I missed?

No clue. I'm not the one that said there were four. lol

Good catch.

 

[CowboyRoy]

No clue. I'm not the one that said there were four. lol

that because we didnt have 4 we had 3. And smith was lucky to make it this year. I would say it was about 2.5 this year in reality.

 

[garyo1954]

How do you stretch the field with this personnel and playbook? Even in 2014....Romo wasn't stretching the field...he had to extend plays to mask this awful playbook.

The problem is not the playbook. That's some horse smack excuse used by people on this board to make some off the wall point. "Oh, yeah this offense is from the 90s, so outdated and antiquated, ain't fooling nobody," they'll say.

Look up Bill Belichick's offense. Save you some time. He runs a modified Earhardt-Perkins system developed in the 1970s under Chuck Fairbanks! Holy Smacktalk Batman! If the 90s is outdated and antiquated, the 70s must be a mummy and dinosaur bones by now.

AND ITS STILL WORKING!
How 'bout dat!

Now give this some thought.

How many holes are there in a running formation? Imagine that! So few places to run and yet Jim Brown, Gale Sayers, Leroy Kelly, Tony Dosett, Bary Sanders, Emmitt Smith, Adrian Peterson, and even Zeke Elliott can find yards! Do these guys know some secret holes they can run through? Or do they have the same places to run that everybody else does?

For the last 70 years you've had the same running lanes and that hasn't stopped running backs. (Unless you want to talk about Mark Sanchez, who tried to find a new hole and created the butt-fumble) Now see how foolish it is to blame the playbook?

So how do you stretch the field?

You do like Tom Landry did before he got Tony Liscio.
You do it like Ben Rothelisberger.
You do it like Aaron Rodgers.
You do what you have to do to do it.

Part of being a winning team is imposing your will.
Sometimes you have to improvise.
But you can't let the other team dictate what you can do.

The playbook ain't calling plays. Scott Linehan is.
And just because Linehan don't call it, doesn't mean its not available, (evidenced by Chris Jones fake punt.)

Now if none of that sinks in watch Cooper Rush......



Yeah, he's playing against 2ns stringers and NFL wannabes, but what was Dak playing against in the Philly game?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The problem is not the playbook. That's some horse smack excuse used by people on this board to make some off the wall point. "Oh, yeah this offense is from the 90s, so outdated and antiquated, ain't fooling nobody," they'll say.

Look up Bill Belichick's offense. Save you some time. He runs a modified Earhardt-Perkins system developed in the 1970s under Chuck Fairbanks! Holy Smacktalk Batman! If the 90s is outdated and antiquated, the 70s must be a mummy and dinosaur bones by now.

AND ITS STILL WORKING!
How 'bout dat!

Now give this some thought.

How many holes are there in a running formation? Imagine that! So few places to run and yet Jim Brown, Gale Sayers, Leroy Kelly, Tony Dosett, Bary Sanders, Emmitt Smith, Adrian Peterson, and even Zeke Elliott can find yards! Do these guys know some secret holes they can run through? Or do they have the same places to run that everybody else does?

For the last 70 years you've had the same running lanes and that hasn't stopped running backs. (Unless you want to talk about Mark Sanchez, who tried to find a new hole and created the butt-fumble) Now see how foolish it is to blame the playbook?

So how do you stretch the field?

You do like Tom Landry did before he got Tony Liscio.
You do it like Ben Rothelisberger.
You do it like Aaron Rodgers.
You do what you have to do to do it.

Part of being a winning team is imposing your will.
Sometimes you have to improvise.
But you can't let the other team dictate what you can do.

The playbook ain't calling plays. Scott Linehan is.
And just because Linehan don't call it, doesn't mean its not available, (evidenced by Chris Jones fake punt.)

Now if none of that sinks in watch Cooper Rush......



Yeah, he's playing against 2ns stringers and NFL wannabes, but what was Dak playing against in the Philly game?

You had me until you tried to make a valid point by bringing up what Cooper Rush did against players not even in this league anymore. Yikes. If you are ok with a play book that lacks vertical plays then that's fine. If you are ok with receivers running the same 3 routes all game then ok.

 

[Oh_Canada]

To all you Dak haters, this is the number of TDs and INTs he passed/ran for in the first 8 games before Zeke's suspension, while adjusting to 2 new starters on the OL, and beforeTyron got hurt. No, he did not play well the second half of the year with/without Zeke and Tyron. But maybe, just maybe, next year he is the player we saw the first half of the season, not the second. Especially if we get a more creative OC and playmakers with separation ability at WR and TE.

Thank you.

The haters should also take a look at second year numbers for Drew Brees, Donavan McNabb, Tom Brady, Matt Ryan etc and than slowly move away from the ledge.

Ben Rothliesberger had his worst statistical performance in his third year.

 

[DC Cowboy]

He was also something like 2nd or 3rd in total TDs at about the midway point of the season.

There were holes in his game the first half of the season, but that split of games was lightyears ahead of what he did during the final 8 games.

That Atl. game!

 

[Oh_Canada]

The problem is not the playbook. That's some horse smack excuse used by people on this board to make some off the wall point. "Oh, yeah this offense is from the 90s, so outdated and antiquated, ain't fooling nobody," they'll say.

Look up Bill Belichick's offense. Save you some time. He runs a modified Earhardt-Perkins system developed in the 1970s under Chuck Fairbanks! Holy Smacktalk Batman! If the 90s is outdated and antiquated, the 70s must be a mummy and dinosaur bones by now.

AND ITS STILL WORKING!
How 'bout dat!

Now give this some thought.

How many holes are there in a running formation? Imagine that! So few places to run and yet Jim Brown, Gale Sayers, Leroy Kelly, Tony Dosett, Bary Sanders, Emmitt Smith, Adrian Peterson, and even Zeke Elliott can find yards! Do these guys know some secret holes they can run through? Or do they have the same places to run that everybody else does?

For the last 70 years you've had the same running lanes and that hasn't stopped running backs. (Unless you want to talk about Mark Sanchez, who tried to find a new hole and created the butt-fumble) Now see how foolish it is to blame the playbook?

So how do you stretch the field?

You do like Tom Landry did before he got Tony Liscio.
You do it like Ben Rothelisberger.
You do it like Aaron Rodgers.
You do what you have to do to do it.

Part of being a winning team is imposing your will.
Sometimes you have to improvise.
But you can't let the other team dictate what you can do.

The playbook ain't calling plays. Scott Linehan is.
And just because Linehan don't call it, doesn't mean its not available, (evidenced by Chris Jones fake punt.)

Now if none of that sinks in watch Cooper Rush......



Yeah, he's playing against 2ns stringers and NFL wannabes, but what was Dak playing against in the Philly game?

Have you looked at Dak's 2016 preseason performance?

How about Blaine Gabbert 2017?

 

[CATCH17]

Yep, many seem to have forgotten how well he was playing in the first half of the season. That doesn't make up for how bad he was in the second half, but I'm still willing to give him a good chunk of next season to return to form.

He's like 22-9 as a starter.

Cowboyszone is being way way to hard on him.

He showed some chinks in his armor but I don't get why people think he's not good now.

Look at the quality of NFL QB's. Kirk Cousins is a top 10 QB probably and hes barely above average.

Dak can play and he'll get better unless Garrett just completely screws him up.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Thank you.

The haters should also take a look at second year numbers for Drew Brees, Donavan McNabb, Tom Brady, Matt Ryan etc and than slowly move away from the ledge.

Ben Rothliesberger had his worst statistical performance in his third year.

Your examples are poor, everyone improved or stayed roughly the same between their first and second year except for Brees. And even then it wasn’t the giant RGIII fall off of a cliff that Dak forced us to watch.
Still, Brees was definitely worse in his second year. So all we have to do is hope Dak is the second coming of the guy who is probably going to hold all of the major all-time passing records. What could go wrong?

 

[DFWJC]

he won the raiders, giants, and skins games which were all elimination games. you're moving the goal posts when the ball looks to be going through.

he went 3-3 without zeke and won 3 of the 4 total elimination games this year.

Not that it matters either way, but....
No, no they weren't mathematically elimination games. Plus a true elimination game (a seriously stupid term to begin with) involves TWO teams trying to prevent elimination. Otherwise, one has more to play for.
Say, one team needs a win to get int the playoffs and the other plays their 3rd stringers...that credit for "winning" an elimination game gets real fuzzy in a hurry.

But like I said, I think the whole concept of "elimination games" (outside of actual playoff games) is silly anyway.
Just as assigning TEAM wins and losses to one player is beyond stupid.

 

[DFWJC]

Just some trivia here; and the ealry numbers were great in any case....
but if you're going to add rushing TDs to passing TDs then you also must add fumbles to interceptions.
fwiw

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Not that it matters either way, but....
No, no they weren't mathematically. Plus often a true elimination game (a seriously stupid term to begin with) involves TWO teams trying to prevent elimination. Otherwise, one has more t play for.
But like I said, I think the whole concept of "elimination games" (outside of actual playoff games) is silly anyway.
Just as assigning TEAM wins and losses to one player is beyond stupid.

For a long time, an “elimination game” had to have 3 qualifications:
1) the lights must be shining bright
2) Tony Romo must be playing
3) Tony Romo’s team had to lose (if they won, it then became a “regular game”)

 

[DFWJC]

For a long time, an “elimination game” had to have 3 qualifications:
1) the lights must be shining bright
2) Tony Romo must be playing
3) Tony Romo’s team had to lose (if they won, it then became a “regular game”)

So true

 

[Coy]

22-10 in two years

Bortles was 10-6 this year, losing the last two when everything was wrapped up for them.
Record doesn't mean the QB is playing great, just saying.

 

[Nightman]

Bortles was 10-6 this year, losing the last two when everything was wrapped up for them.
Record doesn't mean the QB is playing great, just saying.

Bortles played well this year...... he exceeded expectations by a mile

 

[Coy]

Bortles played well this year...... he exceeded expectations by a mile

He played better than last yeat but he did not play well, he just had a great D, he did play better than Dak, I'll give you that.

 

[HungryLion]

Bortles was 10-6 this year, losing the last two when everything was wrapped up for them.
Record doesn't mean the QB is playing great, just saying.

Bottles played very well the second half of the season

 

[Nightman]

Bottles played very well the second half of the season

Without ARobinson and AHurns

 

[Coy]

Bottles played very well the second half of the season

11 TD's and 8 Int's (60 or under passer rating in 4 of the 8 games) in the second half of the season, I wouldn't call that "very well" but to each his own I guess.
Anyway, this isn't about Bortles, I just pointed out that a good record doesn't necessarily mean good QB play, that is all.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Your examples are poor, everyone improved or stayed roughly the same between their first and second year except for Brees. And even then it wasn’t the giant RGIII fall off of a cliff that Dak forced us to watch.
Still, Brees was definitely worse in his second year. So all we have to do is hope Dak is the second coming of the guy who is probably going to hold all of the major all-time passing records. What could go wrong?

Wrong Brady's rating went down and worse still in year three from rookie season.

McNabb marginally better, but had his worst staistically year in year four.

Matt Ryan's Qbr dropped in year two, as did comp% and interceptions thrown.

Brees was a disaster.

But yeah let's talk RGIII because the narrative fits. Let's give up on a guy who had a historical rookie season after a lesser second season, because the Romo lovers are still butt hurt from his injuries ending his career.