2024-25 College Football Thread

hate that for knapp.
played extremely well all year.
bright future for him.
irish have another great one i think.
 
jterrell said:
Its exactly how it happens in the NFL.
Top 4 seeds in each conference are the division winners.
No asks you who played; they award those 4 in each conference then they award the best of the rest seeds 5 and 6.

People whine about it, but it maintains importance in the regular season which also boosts ratings.
The Byes proved this year to mean jack squat. The 5-8 seeds won and advanced.
The title game is seeds 7 vs 8. Seeds and rankings are clearly not great at this.
Conf championships are won on the field, not in eye tests or public opinion polls.
Same way tourneys are won.
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That's b/c the byes were automatic. But, those weren't the 4 best teams. They need to re-seed after deciding the 12 teams. It should have been 1. Oregon 2. OSU 3. ND 4. UGA. The eye test and SOS should matter in a committee meeting or why bother with a committee? ASU and BSU had no business getting byes.
 
looking at notre dame's depth chart for the national title game mon nite vs ohio st...dt howard cross is the starter.
he has been battling thru injury...its good to see he'll be anchoring that dline...tho right now he's held together by asprin and duct tape.
go♧irish.
 
cowboyec said:
looking at notre dame's depth chart for the national title game mon nite vs ohio st...dt howard cross is the starter.
he has been battling thru injury...its good to see he'll be anchoring that dline...tho right now he's held together by asprin and duct tape.
go♧irish.
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The extra time will help. he is truly critical; we have lost so many players to injury that its amazing we made it this far.
 
gtb1943 said:
The extra time will help. he is truly critical; we have lost so many players to injury that its amazing we made it this far.
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it goes all the way back to the spring.
and yet al golden's bunch continues to find ways to generate pressure and take aways.
its really unreal.
 
atlantacowboy said:
That's b/c the byes were automatic. But, those weren't the 4 best teams. They need to re-seed after deciding the 12 teams. It should have been 1. Oregon 2. OSU 3. ND 4. UGA. The eye test and SOS should matter in a committee meeting or why bother with a committee? ASU and BSU had no business getting byes.
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This is just dumb on top of dumb.
Oregon was 1 and deserved it.
Georgia was 2 and was going to be either 2 or 3.
ND was not going to get a Bye bases on the regular season they had with a loss to NIU.

Ohio State finished 3rd in their own conference and was not getting a Bye no matter the system after 2 losses including to a bad Michigan team that Texas, Oregon and Michigan all beat.

So lets stop lying and focus on reality.

the initial 4 of a committee would have been:
1. Oregon
2. Georgia
3. Penn State
4. UT.

NONE of which made the Finals. Only 1 of which had a bye but lost its first game.

So the committee doesn't get jack right. They are not savants and they do not need to guess. They need to award champions of conference then the team who had the best regular seasons outside those champions.
That is what happened, and it worked out quite well.
Anyone arguing ASU didn't belong was an idiot and there are many idiots. A major glut resides in the SouthEast.
Same with Boise St. One loss team and "best" loss in the country on the road to #1 by 3 points.
A top 3 Heisman finalist in tow.

We've been arguing this point since long before the games were played so you can go back and look at the projections prior to the games....
All your initial cries were for an inconsistent Bama team.

At the end of the day Byes prove do not be helpful. the time off after 20+ days was not an advantage at all.
And they want to increase the teams anyway.
So fine, go to 16 but award the top seeds to conf winners.
 
At some point we will get a standard ~64 team Super League and they will exclude all G5. Until then if their best team rises higher in the rankings in the Big 12 or ACC champ then it should be awarded for doing so.
BYU had the CFP's best argument for inclusion, but Boise State had a better year when BYU lost its 2nd game.
The one you could actually argue was BYU over SMU since they beat SMU at their place and both had 2 losses.
 
jterrell said:
At some point we will get a standard ~64 team Super League and they will exclude all G5. Until then if their best team rises higher in the rankings in the Big 12 or ACC champ then it should be awarded for doing so.
BYU had the CFP's best argument for inclusion, but Boise State had a better year when BYU lost its 2nd game.
The one you could actually argue was BYU over SMU since they beat SMU at their place and both had 2 losses.
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jterrell said:
This is just dumb on top of dumb.
Oregon was 1 and deserved it.
Georgia was 2 and was going to be either 2 or 3.
ND was not going to get a Bye bases on the regular season they had with a loss to NIU.

Ohio State finished 3rd in their own conference and was not getting a Bye no matter the system after 2 losses including to a bad Michigan team that Texas, Oregon and Michigan all beat.

So lets stop lying and focus on reality.

the initial 4 of a committee would have been:
1. Oregon
2. Georgia
3. Penn State
4. UT.

NONE of which made the Finals. Only 1 of which had a bye but lost its first game.

So the committee doesn't get jack right. They are not savants and they do not need to guess. They need to award champions of conference then the team who had the best regular seasons outside those champions.
That is what happened, and it worked out quite well.
Anyone arguing ASU didn't belong was an idiot and there are many idiots. A major glut resides in the SouthEast.
Same with Boise St. One loss team and "best" loss in the country on the road to #1 by 3 points.
A top 3 Heisman finalist in tow.

We've been arguing this point since long before the games were played so you can go back and look at the projections prior to the games....
All your initial cries were for an inconsistent Bama team.

At the end of the day Byes prove do not be helpful. the time off after 20+ days was not an advantage at all.
And they want to increase the teams anyway.
So fine, go to 16 but award the top seeds to conf winners.
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I find it hilarious you can't have a debate without being insulting. We obviously disagree on a lot of things but we can agree that the byes are not necessary and , at least first go-round, seemed to be a disadvantage.
 
I see Ewers has announced his intention to enter this years draft…
Can anyone see him drafted in the first two rounds??
 
John813 said:
With how weak the class is, maybe round 2 depending on the combine?
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My guess is Ewers looks great in shorts and helmet and rises.
He may still be a R3 guy because some teams will challenge if he has ever elevated his team.
Bu R4 graded QBs may be drafted R2 because that ius how it works.
 
jterrell said:
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the conference championship game winner is not something the big conferences are going to let go. Which already has and will continue to put teams that truly do not belong in the CFP in instead of teams more deserving.
Clearly Alabama deserved to be in more than ASU, Boise State or Indiana. But then I think a twelve team playoffs is way too much anyway.
 
gtb1943 said:
the conference championship game winner is not something the big conferences are going to let go. Which already has and will continue to put teams that truly do not belong in the CFP in instead of teams more deserving.
Clearly Alabama deserved to be in more than ASU, Boise State or Indiana. But then I think a twelve team playoffs is way too much anyway.
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It will change in 2026 but as the tweet says it is unlikely to change in 2025.
It is unlikely anything changes for 2025 because you need universal agreement.
The P2 already got a sweetheart deal of sweetheart deals.
Thinking Alabama deserved it more than ASU, Indiana or Boise is delusional.
Alabama was not a top 16 team.

BYU probably should have been in over SMU. That is the only real possible change that was warranted. BYU did beat SMU at SMU.
 
2026 will almost certainly bring 16 teams with a guarantee of 4 ACC and 4 SEC teams, 2 each of ACC/Big 12, the non P4 highest rated champ and 3 at large.
The P2 sure better hope for a tOSU win because their leverage is shaky already and to have the CFP not won by one of their schools makes it even shakier.
The P2 has a whole heck of a lot more money to lose than the rest of the teams dragging behind this system.
 
jterrell said:
It will change in 2026 but as the tweet says it is unlikely to change in 2025.
It is unlikely anything changes for 2025 because you need universal agreement.
The P2 already got a sweetheart deal of sweetheart deals.
Thinking Alabama deserved it more than ASU, Indiana or Boise is delusional.
Alabama was not a top 16 team.

BYU probably should have been in over SMU. That is the only real possible change that was warranted. BYU did beat SMU at SMU.
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At its best it Alabama certainly was a better team than those three. Now it was too inconsistent and that rightfully cost it a shot at the playoffs, but talent wise you really cannot argue that it was not more so.
 
hope to see a competitive title game,Buckeyes are really good but they are not a juggernaut that is unbeatable.
 
jterrell said:
2026 will almost certainly bring 16 teams with a guarantee of 4 ACC and 4 SEC teams, 2 each of ACC/Big 12, the non P4 highest rated champ and 3 at large.
The P2 sure better hope for a tOSU win because their leverage is shaky already and to have the CFP not won by one of their schools makes it even shakier.
The P2 has a whole heck of a lot more money to lose than the rest of the teams dragging behind this system.
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typo there but i agree with everything you wrote,16 team playoff seems inevitable.
 
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