3-WR sets on offense - finally!

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Bryan Broaddus - CBS Sports
12:43 pm The majority of the offensive snaps for the Cowboys this season have been in the two-TE package. With Martellus Bennett sitting out this game, coach Wade Phillips hinted that the Cowboys offensive plan could include more three WR sets, which he feels very good about.

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Some might argue that Martellus Bennett has not lived up to his end of the productivity that the 2-TE set was ever meant to bring. But what we don't really know is whether it is Bennett holding back that productivity, or if it's the 2-TE formation holding back Bennett's productivity. Maybe we’re better off with Witten as the featured TE in a more-traditional system, with Bennett spelling him off the bench?

At least we get to somewhat find out this week, per the CBS report above, that Dallas will run more 3-WR sets and less 2-TE sets with Bennett out with injury. I am very happy about this - not because Bennett is out, but because I'm not sold on this 2-TE set.

And that's because the 2-TE set bunches things up inside and has made it easier for opposing defenses to rush the passer and set up run-blitzes from the inside lanes. And because it invites defenses inside, it leaves for less room over the middle of the field for route-runners to exploit. This season, the OL has struggled with this inside rush, and even Witten’s season has not been all that impressive based on his previous-seasons standards. To what extent is this 2-TE set the cause?

Now, I just hope that with more WRs out of a 1-TE lineup, the middle of the field will open up more for Witten, and even Felix Jones and Marion Barber. In fact, I would not be surprised to see the offense post its best offensive showing yet --- and seeing that the majority of that success is being attributed to a more open middle of the filed, brought on by more traditional 1-TE/2-3 WR sets.

We’ll see, I suppose…

 

[Hook'em#11]

I wouldn't mind seeing some 4 WR sets as well. Spread that defense. Not many, just like Dallas have 3 DB's that good that can cover.

 

[Rampage]

I think the morons who run this team just hate the element of suprise. between Jerry and Wade they sure "hint" at a lot of stuff they plan on doing during the game. same stuff just a different year.

 

[juck]

Otree?

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

I wouldn't mind seeing some 4 WR sets as well. Spread that defense. Not many, just like Dallas have 3 DB's that good that can cover.

I really think Wade has just been shut-out of all offensive decisions - because Jerry Jones just lets Garrett do whatever he wants.

All I know is that, several times this year, I've heard Wade talk about opposing offenses and say things like "well they like to spread defenses out some, causing problems for how you defend them. It leaves peole out there on islands in one-on-one coverage matchups, so we'll have our hands full with that for sure. So we just need to be ready".

And now we hear that Wade is liking the fact that we'll be running (forced due to injury) more 3-WR sets. I bet that, if he had any say on offense, then this use of 3 and/or 4 WR sets would have been implemented many weeks ago.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Otree?

Over Hurd.

 

[WarDaddy]

Be careful what you wish for.


If the Cowboys can't run out of this formation we won't see the results we're hoping for in the passing game. Blitz pickups haven't been the best.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Otree?

More like Austin, RW and Crayton

 

[bayeslife]

Pitt is very good with 3 WR sets, especially when they go Slot Strong and put Ward in there for a free release.

I hope we try it a little bit.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I think the morons who run this team just hate the element of suprise. between Jerry and Wade they sure "hint" at a lot of stuff they plan on doing during the game. same stuff just a different year.

What does it matter when you're offensively one of the best teams in the league? The defense can know your formation and even your play but that doesn't mean they can stop you. Everyone knows what the Saints are going to do in a 4 or 5 receiver set. Its another thing to stop them though.

 

[Rampage]

What does it matter when you're offensively one of the best teams in the league? The defense can know your formation and even your play but that doesn't mean they can stop you. Everyone knows what the Saints are going to do in a 4 or 5 receiver set. Its another thing to stop them though.

that's gotten us so far lately. we are also not the Saints. we have had several opponents mention how predictable our offense is. just imagine if it wasn't predictable.

 

[gmoney112]

Good deal. I'm starting Witten and Roy in fantasy.

I also hope Phillips has a coming out party. A reliable 3rd TE can allow us to a lot of things on draft day. I like Marty B but if Phillips shows he's a good run blocker and has better hands, we can probably pick up a 1st or 2nd for him on draft day.

Just sayin

 

[Hook'em#11]

I really think Wade has just been shut-out of all offensive decisions - because Jerry Jones just lets Garrett do whatever he wants.

Completely agree. Dallas really has 2 HC's and that's not good.

What does it matter when you're offensively one of the best teams in the league? The defense can know your formation and even your play but that doesn't mean they can stop you. Everyone knows what the Saints are going to do in a 4 or 5 receiver set. Its another thing to stop them though.

that's gotten us so far lately. we are also not the Saints. we have had several opponents mention how predictable our offense is. just imagine if it wasn't predictable.

Like Dallas was so unpredictable in the 90's. LOL. They just "excecuted" the plays. Every team in the NFL knew exactly what they were gonna run. Emmitt run, Novie or Emmitt run on 2nd, Irvin/ Novie on 3rd.. Done. Nothing new here, move along.

All the players have to do is execute and this team would be fine. It's more on the players then the scheme.

 

[stilltheguru]

Bryan Broaddus - CBS Sports
12:43 pm The majority of the offensive snaps for the Cowboys this season have been in the two-TE package. With Martellus Bennett sitting out this game, coach Wade Phillips hinted that the Cowboys offensive plan could include more three WR sets, which he feels very good about.

*** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***

Some might argue that Martellus Bennett has not lived up to his end of the productivity that the 2-TE set was ever meant to bring. But what we don't really know is whether it is Bennett holding back that productivity, or if it's the 2-TE formation holding back Bennett's productivity. Maybe we’re better off with Witten as the featured TE in a more-traditional system, with Bennett spelling him off the bench?

At least we get to somewhat find out this week, per the CBS report above, that Dallas will run more 3-WR sets and less 2-TE sets with Bennett out with injury. I am very happy about this - not because Bennett is out, but because I'm not sold on this 2-TE set.

And that's because the 2-TE set bunches things up inside and has made it easier for opposing defenses to rush the passer and set up run-blitzes from the inside lanes. And because it invites defenses inside, it leaves for less room over the middle of the field for route-runners to exploit. This season, the OL has struggled with this inside rush, and even Witten’s season has not been all that impressive based on his previous-seasons standards. To what extent is this 2-TE set the cause?

Now, I just hope that with more WRs out of a 1-TE lineup, the middle of the field will open up more for Witten, and even Felix Jones and Marion Barber. In fact, I would not be surprised to see the offense post its best offensive showing yet --- and seeing that the majority of that success is being attributed to a more open middle of the filed, brought on by more traditional 1-TE/2-3 WR sets.

We’ll see, I suppose…

3 wr sets? So what?

 

[Hoofbite]

Like Dallas was so unpredictable in the 90's. LOL. They just "excecuted" the plays. Every team in the NFL knew exactly what they were gonna run. Emmitt run, Novie or Emmitt run on 2nd, Irvin/ Novie on 3rd.. Done. Nothing new here, move along.

All the players have to do is execute and this team would be fine. It's more on the players then the scheme.

This argument is so damn stupid. This team is not the team of the 90's. This team will not be the team of the 90's.

And there are also 11 guys on the field who's job it is to prevent you from executing. You might have heard of them, they usually are referred to as the defense.

If you have the talent to line up and smash through everyone, you don't need creativity. If you don't have the talent, you need to compensate a little with playcalling.

 

[khiladi]

This argument is so damn stupid. This team is not the team of the 90's. This team will not be the team of the 90's.

And there are also 11 guys on the field who's job it is to prevent you from executing. You might have heard of them, they usually are referred to as the defense.

If you have the talent to line up and smash through everyone, you don't need creativity. If you don't have the talent, you need to compensate a little with playcalling.

It's also stupid because it isn't true. Dallas was simple, but they surely weren't predictable. They were essentially the best play-action team out there and were a balanced offense. They set teams up and made them pay. They were patient and had a defined plan of attack unlike this team.
We hardly run play-action...

 

[khiladi]

I really think Wade has just been shut-out of all offensive decisions - because Jerry Jones just lets Garrett do whatever he wants.

All I know is that, several times this year, I've heard Wade talk about opposing offenses and say things like "well they like to spread defenses out some, causing problems for how you defend them. It leaves peole out there on islands in one-on-one coverage matchups, so we'll have our hands full with that for sure. So we just need to be ready".

And now we hear that Wade is liking the fact that we'll be running (forced due to injury) more 3-WR sets. I bet that, if he had any say on offense, then this use of 3 and/or 4 WR sets would have been implemented many weeks ago.

Seriously... If Wade had a say in this offense, I think we'd be pretty well off..

 

[NextGenBoys]

Bryan Broaddus - CBS Sports
12:43 pm The majority of the offensive snaps for the Cowboys this season have been in the two-TE package. With Martellus Bennett sitting out this game, coach Wade Phillips hinted that the Cowboys offensive plan could include more three WR sets, which he feels very good about.

*** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***

Some might argue that Martellus Bennett has not lived up to his end of the productivity that the 2-TE set was ever meant to bring. But what we don't really know is whether it is Bennett holding back that productivity, or if it's the 2-TE formation holding back Bennett's productivity. Maybe we’re better off with Witten as the featured TE in a more-traditional system, with Bennett spelling him off the bench?

At least we get to somewhat find out this week, per the CBS report above, that Dallas will run more 3-WR sets and less 2-TE sets with Bennett out with injury. I am very happy about this - not because Bennett is out, but because I'm not sold on this 2-TE set.

And that's because the 2-TE set bunches things up inside and has made it easier for opposing defenses to rush the passer and set up run-blitzes from the inside lanes. And because it invites defenses inside, it leaves for less room over the middle of the field for route-runners to exploit. This season, the OL has struggled with this inside rush, and even Witten’s season has not been all that impressive based on his previous-seasons standards. To what extent is this 2-TE set the cause?

Now, I just hope that with more WRs out of a 1-TE lineup, the middle of the field will open up more for Witten, and even Felix Jones and Marion Barber. In fact, I would not be surprised to see the offense post its best offensive showing yet --- and seeing that the majority of that success is being attributed to a more open middle of the filed, brought on by more traditional 1-TE/2-3 WR sets.

We’ll see, I suppose…

I think MartyB is the biggest disappointment of any Dallas Cowboy this year sans Roy Williams.

I think 3/4WR sets and spreading the field a bit more may do wonders for our offense.

 

[Rampage]

Completely agree. Dallas really has 2 HC's and that's not good.





Like Dallas was so unpredictable in the 90's. LOL. They just "excecuted" the plays. Every team in the NFL knew exactly what they were gonna run. Emmitt run, Novie or Emmitt run on 2nd, Irvin/ Novie on 3rd.. Done. Nothing new here, move along.

All the players have to do is execute and this team would be fine. It's more on the players then the scheme.

This argument is so damn stupid. This team is not the team of the 90's. This team will not be the team of the 90's.

And there are also 11 guys on the field who's job it is to prevent you from executing. You might have heard of them, they usually are referred to as the defense.

If you have the talent to line up and smash through everyone, you don't need creativity. If you don't have the talent, you need to compensate a little with playcalling.

Thank you, Hoof. It has really gotten old when people compare the 90s Cowboys(one of the greatest teams of all time) to the current joke of a team we have now.

 

[NextGenBoys]

Thank you, Hoof. It has really gotten old when people compare the 90s Cowboys(one of the greatest teams of all time) to the current joke of a team we have now.

Agreed.