4 best (and 2 worst) Cowboys trades under Jerry Jones

[Big_D]

The other problem was Jerry couldn't draft. He downright sucked at it. So these ridiculous WR trades were the only route to get better and he sucked there too. The guy couldn't evaluate a roster or fix it which was the overall problem.

 

[CCBoy]

Jimmy Johnson was GM as per his contract when the Walker and Haley trades were made.

No, Jerry Jones never gave up his position of GM...don't rewrite the truth or facts.

 

[CCBoy]

Then at that time wouldn't it make more sense to get 2 20 year olds who can go on to long careers.

No Darrell won dash competition in the Pro Bowl games after his retirement. He wasn't Bob Hayes, but very fast and good.

 

[Big_D]

No, Jerry Jones never gave up his position of GM...don't rewrite the truth or facts.

He gave Jimmy Johnson full control of the roster, it was in his contract. When he tried to change that the divorce proceedings began. That is the truth.

 

[KJJ]

That's still not worth 2 firsts and they could've found that in the draft. What made the Galloway trade bad was not only his age and the cost but the fact that they had a slew of needs at that time, not just a need at receiver and then the team fell apart anyway. The entire roster was a mess and Jerry picks that time to make a splash when they basically have no shot at winning anything.

It’s what happened in the draft two years earlier passing on Randy Moss that caused Jerry to fork over two first round picks for Galloway. After passing on Moss, he then lost Michael Irvin to a career ending injury the following year, so he got desperate. He was trying to help Aikman who needed a receiving threat. The trade might have been worth it had Aikman stayed healthy. WR was a huge need for the Cowboys and Galloway still had a lot left in the tank. He proved that when he left for Tampa, but we had a terrible QB situation that couldn’t take advantage of his deep speed. Our OL was also a complete wreck and our QBs didn’t have time to throw. Even as bad as our QB situation was Galloway still put up just over 900 yards and 6 touchdowns in 2003. He had almost 3600 yards and 21 TDs in the three years he played for Tampa and they didn’t have a very good QB situation either. Granted, Jerry overpaid for Galloway, but it could have worked out had Aikman stayed healthy and didn’t have to be released.

 

[nyc-cowboy]

Charles made the 49's hate their deal later...

I'm sure they never wanted to trade such a talented player, but he was such a head case in Frisco...fortunately for us.

 

[Big_D]

It’s what happened in the draft two years earlier passing on Randy Moss that caused Jerry to fork over two first round picks for Galloway. After passing on Moss, he then lost Michael Irvin to a career ending injury the following year, so he got desperate. He was trying to help Aikman who needed a receiving threat. The trade might have been worth it had Aikman stayed healthy. WR was a huge need for the Cowboys and Galloway still had a lot left in the tank. He proved that when he left for Tampa, but we had a terrible QB situation that couldn’t take advantage of his deep speed. Our OL was also a complete wreck and our QBs didn’t have time to throw. Even as bad as our QB situation was Galloway still put up just over 900 yards and 6 touchdowns in 2003. He had almost 3600 yards and 21 TDs in the three years he played for Tampa and they didn’t have a very good QB situation either. Granted, Jerry overpaid for Galloway, but it could have worked out had Aikman stayed healthy and didn’t have to be released.

Passing on Moss still irks me, and that was definitely the motivation behind the trade. Trying to appease the fans. If another GM makes that trade it probably finds success, but Jerry was clueless on all fronts after Jimmy left. Everything about that team began to fade until he put the call in to Parcells out of an act of desperation. Galloway could've been good, but the Cowboys were not.

 

[VaqueroTD]

When the team was winning Super Bowls in the mid 1990s, Jones looked at every option to keep the momentum going. If that meant adding Deion Sanders on a massive contract, he was willing to open his wallet. If it meant adding a veteran quarterback in Bernie Kosar when Troy Aikman was injured in 1993, he went and signed him. The moves paid off then, but Jones has pulled back since some moves went south.

Dallas made some big trades this offseason, but it has been a few years since Jones was willing to bring in players with resumes like Stephon Gillmore and Brandin Cooks. Some of the trades Jerry has made throughout his time have gone well, but a good amount failed.

1. Terry Glenn (Best)​

2. Amari Cooper (Best)​

3. Charles Haley (Best)​

4. Hershel Walker (The Best)​

5. Joey Galloway (Worst)​

6. Roy Williams (The Worst)​

https://thelandryhat.com/posts/4-best-2-worst-cowboys-trades-under-jerry-jones

Glenn is Parcells. Haley and Walker are Jimmy.
Only 1 of those is Jerry. Cooper. And even that might be McClay?

But yeah, Roy W and Galloway are all your boy Jerry!

 

[eromeopolk]

When the team was winning Super Bowls in the mid 1990s, Jones looked at every option to keep the momentum going. If that meant adding Deion Sanders on a massive contract, he was willing to open his wallet. If it meant adding a veteran quarterback in Bernie Kosar when Troy Aikman was injured in 1993, he went and signed him. The moves paid off then, but Jones has pulled back since some moves went south.

Dallas made some big trades this offseason, but it has been a few years since Jones was willing to bring in players with resumes like Stephon Gillmore and Brandin Cooks. Some of the trades Jerry has made throughout his time have gone well, but a good amount failed.

1. Terry Glenn (Best)​

2. Amari Cooper (Best)​

3. Charles Haley (Best)​

4. Hershel Walker (The Best)​

5. Joey Galloway (Worst)​

6. Roy Williams (The Worst)​

https://thelandryhat.com/posts/4-best-2-worst-cowboys-trades-under-jerry-jones

Charles Haley, and Herschel Walker were not Jerry Jones (he did help close the Walker trade with the trips back and forth from Minneapolis to Dallas). Glenn was Parcells who loved "she" may Glenn and his son RIP.

The best Jerry Dumbo GM Jones trade was Amari Cooper and he messed that up with another worst trade of all time by giving Cooper away for a 5th round swap. What did the Cowboys need in the playoffs last year, and the off season this year? Amari Cooper.

 

[CCBoy]

I'm sure they never wanted to trade such a talented player, but he was such a head case in Frisco...fortunately for us.

He was intense and wouldn't put up with less than full team commitment. Peeing on a coach's car didn't help, lol.

When Chad Hennings picked him up off his feet and slammed him feet still off the floor, into the lockers. Well, kind of could relate from that point forward. Eventually he was diagnosed with bi-polar and stayed on meds.

 

[Diehardblues]

His point is personnel was Johnson's territory, all Booger did was agree to the deals and sign off on them.

It’s really sad we have Jethro Homers amongst us.

 

[Diehardblues]

Pretty similar today...only he made the contract negotiations and wasn't a silent participant. Jimmy didn't everything...in the real world. Responsibility goes to the top as does credit.

The discussion is upon values of those players. Not another shot at Jerry. I was not nor will be in a Jerry Jones addition beyond topicly directed. Keep topic on seeing player selections starting above. I don't buy the validation beyond the OP topic. Let's see how player selections went with those players.

Not instead a string of none named excuses that hide behind Jerry, Dak, or Elliott.

All of that is not this thread...leave a Jerry debate for a thread upon just that. Discuss some football and leave the ton of name calling somewhere else. This discussion is about the value of a group of signed players.

Not chunking rocks at Jerry or at me for starting a thread that included the name of Jerry Jones...

But you’re attempting to provide similar credit to Jethro for those trades made with Jimmy versus rest of his tenure. And it simply isn’t the same .

 

[Diehardblues]

Best post Jimmy personnel move for Jethro-

Deion Sanders. Im not sure he’s had another move close to the impact .

Worst - there are so many but Williams and Galloway are near the top.

 

[CCBoy]

First off, he's not my boy...

Glenn is Parcells. Haley and Walker are Jimmy.
Only 1 of those is Jerry. Cooper. And even that might be McClay?

But yeah, Roy W and Galloway are all your boy Jerry!

The Dallas Cowboys, aware of Walker's earlier interest in playing for them, acquired Walker's NFL rights by selecting him in the fifth round (114th overall) of the 1985 NFL Draft.

In 1986, he was signed by the Cowboys and moved to fullback, so he could share backfield duties with Tony Dorsett, becoming the second Heisman backfield tandem in NFL history, after George Rogers and Earl Campbell teamed with the 1984 New Orleans Saints. This move created tension, as it would limit Dorsett's playing time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herschel_Walker

The Cowboys were interested well before Jimmy was a dream.
He came in along with the presence of Tony Dorsett...no, Jimmy Johnson didn't just have a divine intervention.

In 1989, the Cowboys traded Walker to the Minnesota Vikings for a total of five players (linebacker Jesse Solomon, defensive back Issiac Holt, running back Darrin Nelson, linebacker David Howard, defensive end Alex Stewart) and six future draft picks.

All of Jimmy's drafting wasn't a backside shining act...then staff started to step in with college scouting of players he was no longer knowledgeable.

Here, Gil Brandt and other Cowboys influential in personnel, well, had intense and long talks with Jerry as well.

*The five players were tied to potential draft picks Minnesota would give Dallas if a player was cut (which led to Emmitt Smith, Russell Maryland, Kevin Smith, and Darren Woodson).

That was the over the top additions.

The Wall was with dropped NFL players and no-names drafted...all Jimmy?

 

[KJJ]

Passing on Moss still irks me, and that was definitely the motivation behind the trade. Trying to appease the fans. If another GM makes that trade it probably finds success, but Jerry was clueless on all fronts after Jimmy left. Everything about that team began to fade until he put the call in to Parcells out of an act of desperation. Galloway could've been good, but the Cowboys were not.

It wasn’t as much trying to appease the fans as it was trying to help Aikman who was starting to take beatings again. Jay Novacek retired after the 95 season and the loss of Irvin four years later really took a bite out of our passing game. The Cowboys got off to a 3-0 start in 99 and their season fell apart after they lost Irvin in week four in Philadelphia. They ended up 8-8 that season. Although we had Rocket, he wasn’t as effective without a competent number one receiver. Watching how our season fell apart in 99 after the loss of Irvin really got Jerry desperate to get Galloway. The trade was never going to be successful without a viable QB. The second big mistake Jerry made after passing on Randy Moss was hiring Dave Campo as head coach.

After we lost Galloway in the season opener in 2000, Aikman had no chance. He was getting killed back there with our receivers not being able to get open. It was him scrambling around, not being able to find an open receiver that ended his career. What caused the Cowboys to become terrible was poor coaching, and all the talent they were losing. Emmitt Smith was in decline and we moved on from him after the 2002 season. The Cowboys were a shell of the team they were in the early 90s. The only reason things starting to get better under Parcells was finding Jason Witten, Demarcus Ware, and Tony Romo. The talent greatly improved under Parcells.

 

[CCBoy]

But you’re attempting to provide similar credit to Jethro for those trades made with Jimmy versus rest of his tenure. And it simply isn’t the same .

You are usually out of place. I posted an article by another person. The discussion is on evaluating the value of those players...nothing more.

Don't instead label something about me and off presented topic...further.

 

[Big_D]

That's what I mean .. Aikman was 34 years old. The team needed a lot of help and Jerry making clueless trades weren't going to get the job done. Specially when the GM is too stupid to realize those Super Bowl players were on their last legs and he had no plan at all to replace them. His drafts were garbage along with his coaching hires and basically every other decision. The team went into disarray once he took over the reins from Johnson. He rode those players as far as he could but by the time that Galloway trade rolled around they were not a good football team and it was 100% due to his decision making. He was pathetic. Parcells knew how to evaluate players, Jerry did not.

 

[big dog cowboy]

1990 trading up to get Emmitt Smith should be on the list.

 

[CCBoy]

That's what I mean .. Aikman was 34 years old. The team needed a lot of help and Jerry making clueless trades weren't going to get the job done. Specially when the GM is too stupid to realize those Super Bowl players were on their last legs and he had no plan at all to replace them. His drafts were garbage along with his coaching hires and basically every other decision. The team went into disarray once he took over the reins from Johnson. He rode those players as far as he could but by the time that Galloway trade rolled around they were not a good football team and it was 100% due to his decision making. He was pathetic. Parcells knew how to evaluate players, Jerry did not.

Don't involve one's self in determining value of period players invalidates assumptions as above. Jimmy Johnson wasn't the smartest person and controlling everything about him that was ever in the NFL. I like John Madden a lot better and he was under an owner/GM. That's not topic.

Finding and discussing actual trends with player acquisitions was. Once that is completed, a person is in a position to evaluate farther out or add real facts.

 

[CCBoy]

1990 trading up to get Emmitt Smith should be on the list.

ironic humor...wasn't even the player being sought by Jimmy and he wanted a different QB. Something about safety in numbers one's own college players involve.

Both players involve by Jimmy in preference, played no part in the dynasty...but a different discussion here.