4 best (and 2 worst) Cowboys trades under Jerry Jones

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He still had to agree and sign the checks
And that was his contribution which he was so stubbornly determined his contributions were greater than to the point he created tension with his Back to Back SB winning HC because he wanted more credit.
 

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And that was his contribution which he was so stubbornly determined his contributions were greater than to the point he created tension with his Back to Back SB winning HC because he wanted more credit.
He hired Jimmy, so he deserves some credit. Everyone blames Jerry, Jimmy had a big ego too. Two wrongs don't make a right
 

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That may be true, but none of those things happen without Jerry signing off on them, regardless of what some fans want to think. Jerry wrote the checks, Jerry had final approval or veto.
True but do you really think a man that bought a company bleeding 1M a month was going to negate the man he hired to help save the investment?

The real value of Johnson was his knowledge of the college talent which waned over time making it more difficult for him.

Booger's real accomplishment was hiring Johnson and staying out of the personnel part of it. When Johnson was gone, Booger showed his ineptitude with coaches and talent actually accenting just how instrumental Johson was in keeping him from doing what the previous owner had to do.

Booger gets credit for following Johnson's plan which was to blow it all up and start over again.
 

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The other problem was Jerry couldn't draft. He downright sucked at it. So these ridiculous WR trades were the only route to get better and he sucked there too. The guy couldn't evaluate a roster or fix it which was the overall problem.
It wasn't just him but those voices he listened to. What helped the Cowboys the most was Booger changing out those voices like Lacewell.
 

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True but do you really think a man that bought a company bleeding 1M a month was going to negate the man he hired to help save the investment?

The real value of Johnson was his knowledge of the college talent which waned over time making it more difficult for him.

Booger's real accomplishment was hiring Johnson and staying out of the personnel part of it. When Johnson was gone, Booger showed his ineptitude with coaches and talent actually accenting just how instrumental Johson was in keeping him from doing what the previous owner had to do.

Booger gets credit for following Johnson's plan which was to blow it all up and start over again.
Naw, I'm not buying that Jimmy left all his own notes behind and 'managed' the team further while at Miami. That's stretching football instead to hero worship, not a sport, even if professional with fans.
 

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And that was his contribution which he was so stubbornly determined his contributions were greater than to the point he created tension with his Back to Back SB winning HC because he wanted more credit.
He was successful with Switzer...those players were their own players. Once leaving, they were no more Jimmy's. If wouldn't have abandoned them for his own feeling, then he could claim the role beyond that point.

The troops deployed are still the Branch's and not just a commander's.
 

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That may be true, but none of those things happen without Jerry signing off on them, regardless of what some fans want to think. Jerry wrote the checks, Jerry had final approval or veto.
I don't believe for a minute that Jerry vetoed any player Jimmy wanted. As far as writing the checks that was in fact Jerry's contribution. It took them both to build the Cowboys dynasty of the 90's. They each should go down in history as 1/2 each in the architecture of those teams.
 

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Naw, I'm not buying that Jimmy left all his own notes behind and 'managed' the team further while at Miami. That's stretching football instead to hero worship, not a sport, even if professional with fans.
What are you talking about? He had nothing to do with the Cowboys once he left and it was his plan to force Booger's hand and get out with some coin.

He never planned on staying in Dallas beyond 5 or 6 years and accelerated that with talking to JAX. Booger saw that as disloyal.

When Wannstedt had to talk Johson into coming to the war room after Booger tried to get him to make it look like Booger was actually involved in the picks, the writing was on the wall and the relationship was already disintegrating.

The most amusing part are the points some try to make that without Booger there is no Johnson. He was high on the coaches list and we do not know if different owners hire him.

Booger does get credit for handling the business side of the turn around and another wedge in their relationship was Johnson getting credit for bringing Booger to his senses and signing Emmitt. Booger was doing his best in his fiduciary responsibilities as GM not to open the money door and also not to go round heeled in dealing with the players. I am sure he consulted Schramm about this part of running a franchise.
 

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He was successful with Switzer...those players were their own players. Once leaving, they were no more Jimmy's. If wouldn't have abandoned them for his own feeling, then he could claim the role beyond that point.

The troops deployed are still the Branch's and not just a commander's.
I am a fan of Barry Switzer, like the man, read his autobiagraphy Bootleggers Boy. I think Barry was in a no win situation in Dallas as far as credit was concerned. A SB I will still take with pride no matter.
 

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I don't believe for a minute that Jerry vetoed any player Jimmy wanted. As far as writing the checks that was in fact Jerry's contribution. It took them both to build the Cowboys dynasty of the 90's. They each should go down in history as 1/2 each in the architecture of those teams.
Don't agree, any GM writing checks gets the job done.

The magic was that with the Cowboys bleeding and the hatred for Booger for firing Landry, he had to stay out of Johnson's way with personnel.

What really ruined this franchise's record since Johnson was what Booger contributed while Johnson was doing his thing. Booger discovered his own magic in promotion and marketing and that has continued for 3 decades and he even admits it. He discovered that he didn't really need a winner to promote it as one and the public has cooperated ever since.
 

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He was successful with Switzer...those players were their own players. Once leaving, they were no more Jimmy's. If wouldn't have abandoned them for his own feeling, then he could claim the role beyond that point.

The troops deployed are still the Branch's and not just a commander's.
And you actually believe that. Lol

Wow. Amazing we actually have some Cowboy fans who’d defend Switzer and Jethro over Jimmy.
 

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I am a fan of Barry Switzer, like the man, read his autobiagraphy Bootleggers Boy. I think Barry was in a no win situation in Dallas as far as credit was concerned. A SB I will still take with pride no matter.
Switzer gets a lack of respect here as a coach and that's basing it purely on a man coming out of retirement to help his friend. He really didn't want the job.

He was a hell of a coach in college and his loose leash with his players served him well until it didn't. He brought that same philosophy to the Cowboys and even said it in a press conference. He really didn't know what his team was at the time. His first clue should have been to first player to speak on his behalf and the one speaking for him when they won that 3rd SB was Irvin. Irvin liked nothing better than a loose leash because he didn't need anyone for the football part of it. He practiced like he played.

He also took over a team that was beginning to tire of Johnson's management style as the shift was beginning from the coaches being to dog to eventually being the tail. Once the money began to grow for the players, the power of the coaches began to diminish.
 

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He hired Jimmy, so he deserves some credit. Everyone blames Jerry, Jimmy had a big ego too. Two wrongs don't make a right
Yes, he deserves credit for hiring Jimmy. And everyone should blame Jethro for letting his ego contend with our HC. Why don’t you?
 

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Don't agree, any GM writing checks gets the job done.

The magic was that with the Cowboys bleeding and the hatred for Booger for firing Landry, he had to stay out of Johnson's way with personnel.

What really ruined this franchise's record since Johnson was what Booger contributed while Johnson was doing his thing. Booger discovered his own magic in promotion and marketing and that has continued for 3 decades and he even admits it. He discovered that he didn't really need a winner to promote it as one and the public has cooperated ever since.
So true . And Jethro could have been a great owner , maybe one of the best ever, if he had just stayed in his lane as owner hyping and promoting his brand.

But his intent on also being GM fueling his passion to be a celebrity football guy has been his undoing. It’s undermined to most fans everything he’s done as owner .
 

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What Booger really deserves credit for, from purely a business viewpoint, was recognizing he wasn't in the football business, he was in the entertainment business.

He promoted and marketed a team doing nothing in the way of championships into the most valuable sports franchise on the planet.

And I know that does not serve our needs, in fact opposes them, but from the business side, he hit it out of the park. If not for having his ego, and competition with Johnson, too involved in his business things might have gone very differently.

But I do have one question. This guy is not good at hiring coaches, what makes anyone here think he would be better at hiring GM's? And he hasn't been the worst GM by a long shot and we judge him on trophies in the last 27 years not the seasons.
 

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What Booger really deserves credit for, from purely a business viewpoint, was recognizing he wasn't in the football business, he was in the entertainment business.

He promoted and marketed a team doing nothing in the way of championships into the most valuable sports franchise on the planet.

And I know that does not serve our needs, in fact opposes them, but from the business side, he hit it out of the park. If not for having his ego, and competition with Johnson, too involved in his business things might have gone very differently.

But I do have one question. This guy is not good at hiring coaches, what makes anyone here think he would be better at hiring GM's? And he hasn't been the worst GM by a long shot and we judge him on trophies in the last 27 years not the seasons.
You know even if we had struggled on the field and all of the embarrassment of Cowboys Football this era under Jethro’s dysfunctional leadership we wouldn’t have been as harsh on our owner if he hadn’t been intent on being a Celebrity GM Football Guy. And stayed in his lane as owner which is his obvious talent. But that isn’t enough for him.
 

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When the team was winning Super Bowls in the mid 1990s, Jones looked at every option to keep the momentum going. If that meant adding Deion Sanders on a massive contract, he was willing to open his wallet. If it meant adding a veteran quarterback in Bernie Kosar when Troy Aikman was injured in 1993, he went and signed him. The moves paid off then, but Jones has pulled back since some moves went south.

Dallas made some big trades this offseason, but it has been a few years since Jones was willing to bring in players with resumes like Stephon Gillmore and Brandin Cooks. Some of the trades Jerry has made throughout his time have gone well, but a good amount failed.

1. Terry Glenn (Best)​

2. Amari Cooper (Best)​

3. Charles Haley (Best)​

4. Hershel Walker (The Best)​

5. Joey Galloway (Worst)​

6. Roy Williams (The Worst)​


https://thelandryhat.com/posts/4-best-2-worst-cowboys-trades-under-jerry-jones
Amari the best? That was largely a waste. 3 or 4 year rental with a 20 million dollar salary per year. Cooper was basically 1000 yards and 7 TD's per year.

Trading up for that corner in the top 6 was horrible.

Trading up a few spots to draft Emmitt was a great one.
 

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When you bring in comparisons with Switzer to Jimmy it becomes relevant.
It does but this conversation isn’t about Switzer either lol. The fact was Jerry and Jimmy’s biggest accomplishments is creating a Dynasty. It’s not the Switzer year and it’s not Jimmy in Miami. Post their biggest accomplishment they have not had that same success.
 
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