silverbear said:
So, your logic is that he'll be more productive as a number two receiver than as a number one??
Even if I gave you that rather shaky theory, that still doesn't address the disdain the average Niners fan seems to feel for him these days, the rep for dropping too many passes, the consistent sub-.500 percentage of the balls thrown at him that he's caught, or the reported unwillingness to go over the middle...
All of these are separate from the production issue... all of these are reason to be amused when it is suggested that Lloyd ought to be as productive as Moss is for the Skins, because Moss and he had similar stats their final seasons before they joined the Skins...
What kind of fekokteh logic is that??
The stats don't lie, son... I know you THINK he's this brilliant playmaker, but the truth is, the numbers show that he makes a few plays, but not all that many... you just don't seem to be able to back this opinion up with any solid facts...
ok, first off, just because a number one reciever os going somewhere to be a number two reciever doesnt mean that he HAS to have a reduction in production(haha didnt mean for that to rhyme).
lets think about moss for a minutes. He had nearly 1500 yards recieving last year. A lot of those yards came in the first half of the season. Early in the season, teams didnt focus on moss as much, because teams didnt think he could be a playmaker. After moss started putting up the numbers, he was the focus of a teams gameplan. After he got the focus of a pass coverage, his production, for the most part, reduced. So, most likely, I think we can all agree that he will not have another 1500 yard year. Personally, I think that he will have somewhere between 1000-1200 yards recieving this year; thats reasonable.
So, with moss lossing anywhere from 300 to 500 yards, that leaves room for someone else to produce. Oh, lets say maybe brandon lloyd.
The fact is, Lloyd will get the ball in our offense, and he SHOULD be productive. Now, maybe he wont be a 1000 yard reciever(only one team in the league had two 1000 yard recievers last year), but it is very possible for him to get 700-800 yards recieving next year. And for us, that would be very productive for a #2 reciever. We dont need him to come in and be a star. All we need him to do is be a role player. Come in and take pressure off of moss and make an occasional big play.
And for what we needed, I think that lloyd was a good pickup for the type of needs that we needed.
Also, if you have a player that says that he doesnt like an organiation, and wants out, of course fans are going to think poorly of him. Hell, the face of our franchise, a player who was beloved by everyone, just left, and some people are even talking badly of him. I cant help but think that some, not all of course, of that talk is coming from these thoughts of lloyd